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VilkaTheWolf

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  • I live in Brisbane, Australia
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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. DarkFeather (talk) 13:20, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

Infoboxes

Hiya Boofhead! Thanks for your contributions. I would like to request you though to hold off on adding infoboxes to pages with barely any info on them. Not every page needs an infobox and they just extend pages unnecessarily while adding little to no new information as of yet. -- Master Sima Yi Talk 08:22, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Spoiler tags

Hi there. Please remember to add {{Spoilerhd}} to any Odyssey articles that you create. Please use {{Spoilerhd|5 January 2019}}. Thank you. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:31, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. I'll remember that now. Boofhead185 (talk) 12:38, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Delian Leauge

Hi Boof. I just wanted to clarify a minor point: The Delian League isn't a faction of the Cult of Kosmos, as your recent character article creations suggest. The Delian League (and Peloponnesian League, for that matter) were both infiltrated by the Cult, but are not distinct "departments," for lack of a better term, within the Cult itself. The same goes for all the other divisions, actually. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:52, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Right, so just don't say anything about what division they're in. Just say "a member of the Cult...etc."?? Boofhead185 (talk) 15:55, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, so a "member of the Cult of Kosmos within the Delian League," for example. Or "was considered one of the "Gods of the Agean..." --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:59, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Gear stats

Non unique gear like mercenary boots have random perks and armor rating as the armor rating is tied to which damage type the first perk boosts. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:28, November 7, 2018 (UTC)

Vargas (spy)

Hi Boofhead,
I see you wrote a page for the spy in the ACReb mission The Escapists. However, it looks like all names for assassinated Priests, Templars, Spies, etc are randomized unless they're part of main missions or Helix Events with plots. XOdeyssusx, Lacrossedeamon, and I already encountered that situation here when XOdeyssusx made a similar page. Just thought you should know. -- Darman (talk) 16:45, September 7, 2019 (UTC)

Oh dang, my bad. So just delete it then? Thanks for the heads up.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 10:14, September 8, 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hey, man. I just want you know, the sourcing you added like: "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour / Mycenae: Habitations" was reject by Sol Pacificus. Please check the last version of the Sourcing Policy.
(I'm poor at English. If you don't know what I said, please tell me.) --UJ112013 (talk) 13:57, September 11, 2019 (UTC)

What seems to be the issue with it? It's from the game, albeit the Discovery Tour. But The way I've been added discovery tour info doesn't interfere with IU-lore. Since my edits haven't been reverted I just assumed everything was all good and I've been continuing to source as such. Also the Sourcing Policy doesn't say anything about the Discovery Tour.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
I am sorry that I did not make it clear. I used to mean the slash is not allowed in the reference. Example: the "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour / Mycenae: Habitations" should be "Assassin's Creed: Odyssey – Discovery Tour - Mycenae: Habitations" --UJ112013 (talk) 14:38, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
I get it now. However we've been using the "/" in all sources relating to the Historical Locations, I've just been following the same format is all. So there's no problem.B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 14:42, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
I hope so. But, follow who? Follow this policy for the flavor text? This policy for the flavor text has been rejected by Sol Pacificus. You can read the latest version of sourcing policy for the flavor text. The policy made by him has no slash in the reference. (If I still not make it clear, or I made a mistake, sorry about that.) --UJ112013 (talk) 15:23, September 11, 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for not noticing this conversation earlier. To clarify, the formatting using slashes for flavour text was proposed by a single user who tried to force the change through our sourcing policy without consultation with the community and despite encountering some objections. It seems that a few users have nonetheless been confused over this and started implementing it against our actual sourcing policy. If you guys encounter such cases, please revert to the formatting as currently prescribed in our policy page. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
I also wish to clarify that it's not so much that the proposed new formatting was rejected by me, though I was an opponent to it, so much that it has not received approval from the staff for that matter. Wiki-wide changes to formatting need to go through proper procedures certifying consensus from the community or otherwise they can be haphazardly changed on a whim by anyone at anytime. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:19, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

List of known British Assassins

It appears in the opening cutscene of Assassin's Creed: Syndicate. Here is a screenshot of it, showing Miko's name among others. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:22, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Neat, thanks. I thought it was like hidden in the database, thats's why I couldn't find it.V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 08:37, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Perspective in writing

Hey Vilka, I think you're probably already aware of our policy to write from an in-universe perspective in our articles, but there's actually a finer aspect to it that, and from your writing in the "Iron" article, I think you may yet to have grasped if you pardon my saying. In your initial writing, the history section basically reads like a list of how each of the protagonists of the games encountered iron. "Kassandra acquired iron in varying amounts", "iron tomahawks were obtainable by Ratonhnhaké:ton", "an iron kukri was obtained by Jacob and Evie Frye", etc. From the perspective of the subject of iron, that these individuals could obtain iron is no more significant than any other individual from their lifetimes who could also obtain, produce, mine, sell, or use iron.

Writing from an in-universe perspective is more than just using the proper tense that one would if these were historical figures; it also means approaching the content in such a way that the perspective shouldn't seem to stem from a player's perspective. Why is it especially significant that this mercenary, legendary as she might be, collected iron ore throughout her travels when we can infer that it was common for any mercenary and many merchants and artisans to also collect iron? As a general rule, usually when an article is written with the line "[this item] was obtainable by [this protagonist]" it is out-of-universe writing and should be rewritten. "Was obtainable" just comes across especially like gameplay because in the real-world, we don't normally note what was or was not obtainable by a specific individual; we might say that that item was sold in markets in their time period instead.

Also as an aside, unless it's absolutely necessary in the context, please try to avoid wording like "Medjay-turned-Hidden One". There were lots of cases similar to this in the past in this wiki like "Assassin-turned-Templar Shay" or "pirate-turned-Assassin Edward", and honestly, it just makes for awkward writing and reading. Unless it's necessary to specify their transition between the two affiliations in the context, please try to avoid it. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 10:58, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I get it. I was just trying to follow how the Bronze page was made. But looking at that, it seems a little OOU and needs a revamp. I'll remember this, thanks for the heads up.V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 12:47, December 29, 2019 (UTC)

Social media templates

Vilka, I appreciate you taking the initiative to make citation templates for Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, but your organization for the template pages needs some clean-up. Moreover I think you based the format of these templates off of the IMDB template, but I would also have felt more comfortable had you discussed with staff or at the very least other members of the community the citation style that should be used. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 09:30, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I did ask DarkFeather and he gave me the go-ahead. What do you want me to do then?V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 09:34, January 5, 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind, it is I who should apologize. I misread your templates (several times in fact) and thought they were more problematic than they actually were. Everything is fine, aside from just some small clean-up in the organization which I could have handled without starting a topic on your talk page. Pardon me for concerning you. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 09:38, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Backup links

Hi! Can I use archive.today to backup posts on social media? There are some issues that happen causing I can't use the Internet Archive to back up posts on social media. --UJ112013 (talk) 10:26, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Hey, I usually use Wayback Machine, can archive Facebook links with that but not twitter. With twitter a screenshot will suffice, unless archive.today can save twitter posts I'm not sure. I personally don't know anything about it and only tend to use Wayback. If archive.today can save twitter posts let me know :) V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 14:19, February 1, 2020 (UTC)
It can. I have used this site to archive some Twitter posts, like this one. And there are some Wikipedia editors use it to archive pages as references. --UJ112013 (talk) 14:59, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

AC: valhalla dlc page

Hi, sry for overritting Odyssey dlc page with Valhalla content instead of Valhalla. I had been creating Valhalla one ands and passted it accidently to Odyssey one, but i relealised it too, and reverted edit few seconds before you edit, but still thx for remainding me that i edited wrong article :) --Kulurak (talk) 15:40, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

All g, you beat me by a second XD V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 15:43, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

Behind the scenes

When you edit the heading can you make sure only the first word is capitalized? "scenes" should remain lowercase. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 05:32, May 3, 2020 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. thanks for the heads up. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 07:31, May 3, 2020 (UTC)

Proto-Assassins & Proto-Templars

Hey, I just opened up a discussion on our usage of the terms "proto-Assassin" and "proto-Templar". It's a long read, but I think is very important for us to clear this up because our wiki has been rather inconsistent about it, and we could cause some serious problems with it down the line. If you had the time, could you offer your input on it? Thanks. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:54, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

French Grand Masters

After reading your edit, it made me think about who the actual leader of the moderate faction was. In the novel it states that Elise was known as the Grand Master, but was never officially (although it does say she was on the Grand Masters of the Templar Order page and the French Rite page in the Moderate faction section by Lacrossedeamon. Dovahkiin5247123 (talk) 08:39, May 18, 2020 (UTC)

Isu battery sources

Hello Vilka,
Sorry for using "/" when sourcing the Isu batteries, I wasn't aware the Sourcing Policy had changed last year. If I may, though, I have two questions about your edit which confuse me:

  1. Why is AC3 linked when referencing "The Stadium" and "Return to Abstergo"? It's already linked for "Modern Tower", so why do it again? Kassandra's page doesn't do that, and it has non-ACOD sources.
  2. Why don't we specify the sub-sources that contain the information? i.e. the modern day dialogue sections or the precise video in Otso Berg's files? Wouldn't being exact be beneficial even to casual visitors, since the modern dialogue is a lengthy read for a soundbite, or in cases like Initiates, documents are buried in tabs? Otso Berg's The Desmond Files references go just by their file name, but that's months of info to absorb.

If you can help, it'd be greatly appreciated. If not, should I ask Staff? – Darman (talk) 16:50, May 18, 2020 (UTC)

I was just doing the same thing as other pages. As for the modern day sourcing for AC3 that isn't a field mission - that's just all cut-scene. There are no hidden files or anything, so there's nothing else to reference. Just saying "Assassin's Creed III - Modern day" will suffice. If you want to discuss the MD sourcing further, probably take it up with Sol.V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 01:52, May 19, 2020 (UTC)
Ahh, OK! That makes sense, even if "Modern Day" is a long read. Thanks for clearing it up. I'll ask Sol about double-linking and sourcing tab charts, then. – Darman (talk) 01:45, May 20, 2020 (UTC)

Merge Proposals

Hey, Vilka!I put this on discord too, but just in case you missed it I'll comment here too. I just opened up a discussion on our open merge proposals. It's quite long, but if we discuss it we can close them (especially because there are some from 2014 still unsolved :o)

If you have the time, could you offer some input? Thank you a lot. - Soranin (talk) 22:27, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

Brotherhood Contracts

Hi Vilka,
I see you're writing a draft page for the Italian Assassins' contracts. If it helps any, I did some digging online—as I don't own Brotherhood—and I found some mission details (title, description, etc) from this partial list (see §7.0) and YT walkthroughs like this vid at 6:25 when slowed down. However, do we need this page? So far as I can tell, it appears(?) that the contracts are all just infinitely-repeating generic missions simply meant to level up recruits. Or did I miss something and that's not actually the case? – Darman (talk) 15:40, June 8, 2020 (UTC)

The missions are infinitely-repeating, but I always thought it'd be useful to document all the possible missions one can encounter. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 19:28, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
OK that's fair. Their infinite-ness makes them different from other in-game contracts, yes? If I recall, all others are one-and-done mini-missions. Thanks, – Darman (talk) 19:35, June 8, 2020 (UTC)
There are some unique missions that can only be done once - the missions with the interconnectivity to Project Legacy. But the rest seem to duplicate a lot. Also I'm sure some of the contracts in III and Black Flag were also repeatable... V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 01:36, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

Email refs

Hi Vilka,
Why aren't we displaying [Name]'s email in the references? (i.e., AC – Email: "Subject") Isn't that the style for Initiates file refs? Sol even used Emmanuel Barraza's page as an example. Just "Subject header: [X]" alone looks weird until you hover over the link and the alt-text says "[Name's] email". And I thought we'd decided it didn't matter about double links, so long as formatting was consistent? – Darman (talk) 06:30, June 14, 2020 (UTC)

I noticed it on some older articles and followed suit. Also just putting "Subject header: Additional subjects?" looks way neater than "Warren Vidic's email: Additional subjects?". Doing it to save space. I was continuing the duplicate links for consistency's sake. I've done it heaps and no one's had a problem. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 06:44, June 14, 2020 (UTC)
Really? Interesting, because as best I recall, most pages that I've worked on don't have double links, so I continued that style throughout when I did my edits. So which style do we use? I don't think we came to a consensus in that Forum thread you started. – Darman (talk) 15:05, June 14, 2020 (UTC)
I mean, my own personal preference is to link everything because it makes the References section look neat. If there's some linked and unlinked throughout the References start to look like a checkerboard. Although there are some exceptions; like the novels, even then we might be able to. Doing ''[[Assassin's Creed: Heresy]]'' – [[Assassin's Creed: Heresy#Chapter 1|Chapter 1]] Would work yes? V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 23:35, June 14, 2020 (UTC)
I admit, I can see an argument for neatness, even if I disagree aesthetically. See, my preference is to treat refs like an article, where only the first mention of a game/memory/file is linked. Likely a holdover from school, when we'd cite "Smith, John. Book. [etc]" the first time and (Smith, p.X) every time after. We're polar opposites. :/ While linking chapters technically works, I don't see a reason for it. The citation already links to the book, so why link the chapter when readers need only scroll down a little ways to see the summary? (speaking of, I believe some books still need summaries, yes?) – Darman (talk) 00:20, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

Writing about Glyph references

I've noticed that in your writing for articles relating to the Glyphs, you tend to follow a set formula of which the "Japanese conquest of Burma" page provides an example: "In 2012, a photograph of the Japanese soldiers on Burma's border was acquired by the Assassin Clay Kaczmarek and hidden in the Animus for his successor, Desmond Miles to find. Desmond did so in September of that year."

It's really nice that you're going through each of the glyphs and fleshing out our pages on them, and I fear it would overburden you to ask you to deviate from this formula, but I really think that the writing here should be improved in terms of providing context.

While the reason and purpose behind Clay hiding the photograph in the Animus for Desmond to find may be familiar to us, imagine reading this as someone who has not played Assassin's Creed II and/or Brotherhood, and suddenly it becomes a lot more awkward. A reader unfamiliar with the subject would be left wondering... why? Why would a random photograph be hidden in some software for some other guy to find? What is significant about that? What is so important about this photograph? While we as writers should keep in mind our audience, and our audience as Assassin's Creed fans would usually already know what the sentence is trying to say, the statements in and of itself has to make sense in the flow of logic and communicate the actual significance of the information.

So take two examples of my rewriting of this: Mỹ Tho and Apollo 11. The former makes it clear why the photograph was included, that it's actually just a minor reference which fit the theme of a wider puzzle; I also noted the overall significance in Desmond deciphering the puzzle in terms of what information he learned from it. In the latter, I made it clear that the photograph of the moon landing isn't the actual objective Desmond is meant to find in the Animus, but that it's part of a series of puzzles which help to convey a message, that message in this case being the conspiracy behind Apollo 11.

In both of these revisions, I didn't stick to one formula but tried to write it organically based on the flow of the article and the context involved. I think our wiki does have a habit of feeling like it is mandatory for every article to be written using predefined formulae when there is no such requirement at all and good writing should be flexible and be adapted to the flow and the context.

I recognize that sticking to a formula is easier and feels more efficient though. Otherwise you would be spending 2 hours on every minor article I rewrite like I do lol. Even so, I do think that it is important to be more mindful whether the sentences we are writing truly make sense to our audience if they didn't already know about the subject they're reading about. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 11:55, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

I know my contextual writing isn't always the best but I'll give it a go. All those pictures and articles I've created from Glyph 17: The Bunker followed the general theme of World War II, I guess. Not sure how more info I can add from just that though. I was probably hoping that someone would come and fix them for me, but that's just lazy. I'll see what I can come up with and remember do include more context in future articles. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 12:41, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
Vilka, the issue isn't just context. The statement you used in that article was inaccurate. It suggests that the purpose of the Glyph puzzle in question was for Desmond to find that particular photograph of the Japanese invasion of Burma. It also places emphasis on Clay "acquiring" the photograph, as though his search for it is important to note when it is not. In reality, the photograph was at most included within the Glyph puzzle, but it wasn't an object for Desmond to find. It was only among several images in the background of the puzzle.
As for the significance, the Glyph was suggesting to Desmond the true nature of Hitler's death. I didn't think this overall message of the Glyph was necessarily necessary to explain in the article, but I did so like I usually do because it is otherwise a bit hard to explain the point of it all. You also didn't have to make a straightforward statement about what the "theme" is based on the example of the Mỹ Tho article. I don't want you to fall into that habit of either.
The point I'm trying to make is that I think that in following these set formula for your writing on all these Glyph puzzles, you're not being careful about when the statement you're making is misleading or even incorrect because the formula doesn't work for every context.
But I know it's hard because I found wording this difficult too, so don't worry, I appreciate your effort. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 22:23, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

New Valhalla characters

Where does it say that Finnr and Oswald are going to be characters in Valhalla? Don't you need a source for new information so everyone knows it's canon / valid? Andrewh7 (talk) 23:25, July 7, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

In the 30mins of gameplay footage. V i l k a T h e W o l f (talk) 01:47, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

re: Elite Contracts

Sorry for the slow reply. I took a moment to confirm those Elite contracts were exist, or not. And the answer is YES. I complete the Elite Recovery contract today. --UJ112013 (talk) 02:16, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

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