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Piero.schiavone1994

  • I live in Rome, Italy
  • My occupation is Postgraduate student
  • I am Male
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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. DarkFeather (talk) 09:19, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Attitude

How about you tone down the attitude, instead of being a smart-ass in your edit summary? Crookandcharlatan admitted he was wrong, no need to go rubbing it in. He's a staff member here and earned his stripes, which is more than we can say for you. Play nice with others, or your next warning will be an official one. We're a community, and we all work together to make this place as good as it can be, so let's try and not get unpleasant with each other. Amnestyyy (Contact me!)

@fandom 15:00, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

I loathe people who think can teach me English only because I'm Italian (racist, much, uh?), and in the end (which is what amuses me the most) they get stuff wrong, themselves. So do not get all pumped up, Goebbels - censorship is an awful thing. Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 15:46, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
Disliking something doesn't mean you get away with having a nasty attitude. Plenty of us here don't have English as their first language, myself and Crookandcharlatan included. If someone corrects you on something - whether they're right or not - it has nothing to do with your nationality or native language, and everything with what they deem to be right or wrong. If you can't deal with that, Wikia is not the right place to be for you. Amnestyyy (Contact me!)@fandom 15:51, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Castel Sant'Angelo

By way of explanation, I previously undid your edit on the Castel Sant'Angelo page because, while it might be an "apocoped" form in Italian, in English "Castel Sant'Angelo" is simply a borrowed term. The same grammatical rules would not apply, so to me, "Castel" seemed like a reasonable shortening of the landmark's name. I also undid the edit because you left all the "Castles" capitalized for some reason.

Anyways, I went back on that decision and went with the "castle" you proposed, albeit decapitalized, as it should be. Please don't take my undoing of your edit as some form of personal attack against you being Italian, because that was not my intention. As for your last edit summary, all I can say on that is that it makes you come off rather childish and petty (also, the leap to racism in your reply to Nesty is especially outlandish - what you're accusing me of is the stereotype that Italians know no English, which has nothing to do with your race, but your nationality). If you feel the need to gloat, do so privately. Thanks for reading. Crook The Constantine District 16:30, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Including all categories

You're doing a good job on the characters from the mnemonic sets. However, I wish to inform you to please add the remaining categories (specifically dates of birth and death, etc.) when you create these pages. The Wikia Editor (talk) 19:17, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Authors

I agree. The thing that's rather weird is the fact that Signs and Symbols, Part II and The Polo Symbols: Church II both reward you with the same book: The Flute Girl. There's also the fact that Aesop's Fables is attributed to Socrates in the game, which I've already noted on both Aesop's and Socrates' pages. The Wikia Editor (talk) 23:44, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Again on authors and books

I'll create the article for Aesop's Fables. Unfortunately, I can't add the summaries either because I lost all my game files awhile ago on my PS3 and have been forced to replay all my games. I also haven't been able to find any source for the existance of the book On Nature in the game. The only sources I could find was IGN and a comment on xboxachiecements, neither of whom provided a location of where it's supposedly found. The Wikia Editor (talk) 21:47, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Glad to hear that On Nature is at least mentioned somewhere, although I'm still not sure if there's any kind of cutscene in which Ezio and Sofia find it in-game. The Wikia Editor (talk) 01:35, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Templar Puppets

Hey Piero,
I saw you copy/pasted the same message from the Templar talk pg onto the 6 people of concern. I can't say what the answer is, but it's generally seen as bad form to mass edit like that for an unanswered question. Just a pointer. Someone should get back to you. Or try asking an Admin. Hope this helps. --Darman (talk) 21:50, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Thank for your concern. It was not my intention to spam or something of course, just to get answers. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 22:03, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Apprenticeship

Hello, Piero. I hear you would like to be an Apprentice, working toward becoming a Rafiq on this Wiki. I'm glad to hear you're interested! I'm available from 1400-2300 UTC on weekdays in IRC and very sporadically on weekends. What would be a good time to conduct an interview? DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 04:16, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to be butting in like this, Piero. DarkFeather and I discussed your apprenticeship application on the IRC. Seeing as I am the Dai and thus in charge of the Apprenticeship program, and my timezone is a better match to yours, we've decided I'll be handling the interview. Let me know when you'll be able to hop on the IRC, and we'll see what we can work out. If at all possible, I'd prefer a Thursday or somewhere in the weekend, but if that doesn't work for you, we'll figure something else out. Hope to hear from you soon! --Amnestyyy (Contact me!)@fandom 18:16, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, we do appear to be in the same timezone, which is very convenient. Today works for me, and I should be able to make it around ten. I may be a little late, but it shouldn't be more than, say, thirty minutes or so. So I'll see you on the IRC tonight, and if I'm not there yet when you come online, please just have a little patience and wait for me! :) --Amnestyyy (Contact me!)@fandom 01:13, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hey There

HellO! Just dropping by to say best of luck with the apprenticeship. Itll be pretty time consuming, but keep at it and you'll learn quite a bit in respect to both knowledge, and in writing skills!

--Fragment -Animus- 01:00, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there! Thanks, I am just glad I can keep on learning more. See you on the wiki! --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 20:11, February 5, 2017 (UTC)
On a side note, it may be worth your while to set up a few sandboxes for working on revamps. Itll make it easier to work on articles without anyone accidentally interfering. --Fragment -Animus- 00:33, February 10, 2017 (UTC)
I just meant to; however, I sadly don't know how that is done! --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 23:54, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Moving items onto the same lines as other items

Piero, would you mind explaining some of your recent edits? I am especially perplexed by why you constantly rearrange interwiki links and other items such as text that immediately follow an image onto the same line as the previous item. In these cases, you would delete the space between the references and the interwiki link or the image and the text that follows it. What is the reason for this? It is improper format because it makes the editing page more disorganized. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 07:41, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

This is a particularly notable example. For the entire page, you did nothing but move text onto the same line as quotes which accomplishes nothing except count as a disruptive edit. What is your reason for doing this? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 07:48, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate the reply Piero, and I just wanted to clarify that I was not incensed in any way at you, nor did I assume bad faith at any point. You've been around here long enough, longer than I have, for me to know that you're not the kind to vandalize. Unfortunately, tone doesn't translate well over text as I'm sure you know. I think it would've been impossible for me to have thought that the random changes weren't deliberate, but I did consider that you might've had a good reason for doing so. I apologize if the way I asked somehow came across as blunt. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 12:53, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

I was not reprimanding you Piero. I was merely asking you directly to explain those edits. No matter how much I assumed good faith, those questions still needed to be asked and those edits still needed to be clarified, and that is all I did. I would ask that you, in turn, assume my good faith when I asked those questions rather than interpreting them as scolding. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 04:38, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Applying new era icons

Piero, since you're going through so many articles with minor edits, do you think you could change all the era icons to new ones while you're at it as well? Only for the pages you're going through. You can see them here. You don't have to, but it'd be much appreciate it as it would save us the trouble of having to go through each of these pages after you to change them. I'm currently applying them whenever I edit a page that doesn't have them yet. Let me know if you have any questions about this because I know you haven't been around for the discussions on it. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:43, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Just to clarify, we're removing all media eras and replacing them with the new icons under the "In-universe" section in that page. You can see some of the pages where I'm applying this after you for examples. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:45, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much Piero. :) Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:49, May 1, 2018 (UTC)
Hi Piero. I know this is a late post, but you can find a breakdown of the new eraicons and their applications here. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:29, May 3, 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Jasca. I'll keep doing my best to contribute to the wiki. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 12:33, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

Levantine Rite of the Templar Order

The name "Levantine Rite" of the Templar Order is confirmed in sources, such as The Essential Guide. However, I myself understand your caution about this because what is written is "Levantine Rite of the Knights Templar". Note that Levantine Rite, like Levantine Brotherhood is canonically used retroactivey by later Templars and Assassins. Presumably, the names developed for the regional branches considered to be direct desccendants of the original branches in the Middle East before the expansion and division into many branches. Now, I think one might argue that Knights Templar, being a name that predates this expansion and division, might in itself stand for the "Levantine Rite of the Templar Order" such that to call it "Levantine Rite of the Knights Templar" would be redundant.

Yet then again, the Knights Templar also operated from France. I'm not sure whether "Levantine Rite of the Knights Templar" is correct, but "Levantine Rite of the Templar Order" certainly is. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 00:46, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. I was specifically speaking against the "Levantine Rite of the Knights Templar" diction, too. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 13:26, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Bombs

Hey Piero, I just wanted to double-check if you're still working on this article, Bomb. I know that the Apprenticeship program seems to have become defunct, but I would encourage you to keep working on it if you have any interest (not that you have to). :) Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:56, June 26, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sol. Yeah, I realize it's been a year, more or less. But I've always kept promising to myself I would've come back to that article. So I guess I will soon, eventually. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 17:46, June 27, 2018 (UTC)

Olympia as a polis & Ancient Rome capitalization

Hey Piero, I wanted to double-check with you regarding the status of Olympia. From what I've read, it sounds like it was a "sanctuary" but not a city in its own right or even a state though as for what that means, I am not too sure. Because of this, I'm not sure if it could be accurately called a polis. The other thing is that as for the new "Cities of Ancient Rome" category, I don't believe that ancient is supposed to be capitalized. I don't think the term Ancient Rome is a proper noun despite its common usage for the civilization because ancient is at the end of the day still just a descriptor. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 21:37, July 7, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sol. About the Cities in Ancient Rome category, I recognize that the capitalization of Ancient Rome is improper. But I simply added the relevant pages to said category (I checked every single instance of each of those Greek cities, and they all continued to live and thrive under the Roman Empire, hence they were added to the category).
As for Olympia, I was wrong. I've consulted M.H. Hansen, T.H. Nielsen (edd.), An Inventory of Archaic and Classical Poleis, Oxford 2004 (PDF here), which explicitly denies Olympia the status of polis. My bad. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 15:05, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
As thorough as always about Greek historical research! :D Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 08:03, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Notation style for unknown dates

Hey Piero, I just created a thread to revisit the notation style for individuals with unknown birth and/or death dates. This was a source of confusion for several users who were unfamiliar with the usage of floruit so I realized that this was something that should have been consulted with a wider audience. So I would like to invite you to provide your input and vote on the style you think is best! Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 08:03, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Disrupting page formatting

Hi Piero. Just a quick one: I spotted your edit summary for War letters and I was wondering if you're using Visual Editor or Source mode when making edits on the site? --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 16:05, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Jasca. By routine, I have always been using Source mode for my edits. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 20:32, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

Dama Rossa

I’d like to present my argument for removing the unidentified individual category from that page. That article is about an animi avatar and not a person thus like a painting, sculpture, or other representation of person would not be considered an individual, unidentified or not. This avatar is unique in that we don’t explicitly have counterpart individual/person article like we do with say the Coyote Man but I don’t think that we should treat this avatar any differently than we would a picture of a person in regards to categorization. Also to me it’s pretty obvious that this avatar is pulled from Caterina Sforza but the game just didn’t explicitly state it. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:22, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

The Animi Avatars are not individuals at all. They are a technolgical representation of an individual–an avatar–and should be categorised as such. They people they're based upon are individuals, obviously, but not the avatars. Because of this they cannot be an "unidentified indivudal" by definition. --Jasca Ducato (talk) 08:22, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
I agree with the arguments made above, but I would like to suggest that perhaps there should be a page for Dama Rossa, the individual. I just realized that there doesn't seem to ever have been any confirmation that she was an individual to have actually existed, but then again, there are other avatars out there whose subjects they represent are treated as having existed even if they have never appeared outside of multiplayer, right? I am very doubtful of Lacrosse's view that Dama Rossa is based off of Catarina to be honest. I mean just because she's also a redhead... .__." ... Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 11:12, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
Respectfully, the only logical way to go would be the one suggested by Sol (which I had already conceived in my mind on my own, previously): we should have two separate articles, one for the unidentified historical individual, and one for the Animi avatar (e.g., see Silvestro Sabbatini and Nobleman (Animi Avatar)). So neither us was either competely wrong or right. Just, pray, tell me: is it worth it to have a separate article for the unidentified Dama Rossa? I think not. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 22:26, September 28, 2018 (UTC)
Does the game give any information on the person that the avatar was harvested from? I thought Dama Rossa as an animi was singular in the regard that there is no corresponding individual stated, which is part of the reason I believe it was actually harvested from Sforza. Since it is never explicitly stated I’d never put it on either of there pages but if no contradicting info is found on the avatar's source I’d say don’t make an individual page. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 23:45, September 28, 2018 (UTC)

Reverting back to hyphens

Piero, why did you randomly revert my grammatical corrections of hyphens to dashes...? -_- I was using a keyboard without a number pad, so I didn't know how to insert the dashes without using the wiki codes, but that was not wrong.

To be honest, I kind of would expect that you would trust there's a reason for that change and look into it first. Even if you are not aware that subtitles should grammatically always use en dashes, not hyphens, since even professional companies like Ubisoft tend to neglect that, it should be glaringly awkward to see hyphens used for parenthetical statements... Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 19:43, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sol, sorry for the late reply, I've been mostly been busy (with Odyssey, but not exclusively with that).
I reverted the hyphens to dashes simply because the latter were appearing, in the source editor, as "—", which looked weird to me. Here's why I deleted that weird stuff and added dashes instead. --Piero.schiavone1994 (talk) 13:20, October 12, 2018 (UTC)

Rebellion

Hey, let me know how that new table looks. We still have your old one in the transaction ledger, but this one cuts down all the extra cells from Darman, compactly shows the data, and looks a lot cleaner in source editor. My biggest reason for reverting your edits wasn't to prevent you from reformatting the page, but because the version we were pushing was mangling the output into an unreadable format, both in source and for people visiting the page. Hit me up on Discord or talkpage anytime. DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 22:43, January 7, 2019 (UTC)

i think you should edit the Templar Insignia page and put the French Revolution on there on where the Templar Symbol is revealed on that time and i think it was Lapel Pins as i saw what Grand Master de la Serre did when he initiated people to be Members of the Templar Order.

Labours of Herakles metopes

Just popped by the Temple of Zeus in Sanctuary of Olympia. Sure enough, the metopes are there, too...but only those seven, repeated time and again. No idea why they didn't do the full set. Pity, really. Sadelyrate (siniath) 13:07, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

How to write Odyssey articles

Hello Piero, because of the uncertain canonicity behind the choices made by the player in Odyssey, we're experiencing a problem with writing the biographies of many side characters. If you happen to have the free time, I would love hear your thoughts on the subject here. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 05:08, May 16, 2019 (UTC)

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