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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. DarkFeather (talk) 17:14, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Database

Hey there. All of our Database articles got renamed and re-structed not too long ago, due to which the pages we had previously used to display them became obsolete. Every DB entry now has it's own page (i.e. Database: Evie Frye), instead of piling all of the entries onto a single page. I'm afraid this re-structuring has left the Database article in somewhat of a state of disarray. The revamping of this article will consist of considerably more than a small update. At the moment of writing this, I'm not even quite sure what the page is supposed to become like... So while I'd love to offer advice, I think it might be most prudent to wait a few days. I'm currently in the process of deleting all of the 'old format' pages, which consist of pointless re-directs, and will be tackling the Database article afterwards. Mass-deletion, however, takes a little while if there are over 400 redirects. Amnestyyy (Contact me!)

@fandom 22:13, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

Helix Research Analyst's personal files

Hey Dar
Just popping in real quick - I was reading through the Helix Research Analyst's personal files (welp what a mouthful) article and noticed that the audio files like "New Orders" don't have the dates these conversations took place. Will those be added along with the videos? Thanks for reading and for all your hard work! :) Crook The Constantine District 14:18, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty sure the dates are there. Using "New Orders" as an example, the code should look like this: 
"File:[video]|November 2013, Philadelphia: Laetitia England disbands ..."
Unless I missed something? Darman (talk) 22:44, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I see it now in source mode, but it doesn't pop up in visual mode. Is that the way it's supposed to be, or..? Crook The Constantine District 22:49, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I have it written out in source, but it'll only appear after I've added the video. I've got a system of write transcript, then add vids. It's not an issue? Darman (talk) 22:52, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
No, no, by all means, continue as planned. I was making something out of nothing, evidently :P Crook The Constantine District 07:57, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Continual Edits

Alright, thanks for the heads-up. -- ZéACNS (talk) 21:56, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, thanks again. -- ZéACNS (talk) 10:48, May 5, 2016 (UTC)


I'm on IRC if you want to talk, though I promise I still plan to go through that video list. DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 23:59, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Talkpage updates

I've responded to a couple of your messages on my talkpage. Cleaning out the videos is still ongoing, but I'll look through your Sandbox. DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 18:47, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Signature Response

Thank you for contacting me on the signature thing. Regarding changing the font size, I will be doing this as well as leaving you this message. I am editing as I speak. I am almost done with it.

Screen shot:
Assassins Creed Wikia Big Brother Sig code Evidence of Editing

So what do you think?


Sadly I don't know what to think, I've never used sig coding. The issue is that you don't have 2 sets of blue-highlighted brackets "]]" indicating end of code for the "User", "User:talk" sections. Since your coding doesn't "end", my font is massive, even though I'm "talking". Other tips: 1) "Thanks for contacting" might be redundant (you've linked your talk pg) 2) Your sig adds the Garter crest to pages like a normal pic; I think there's a coding trick for sig images, but you'll have to ask around. You may want to contact Staff for the coding, I'm afraid I can't do much beyond pointing out errors. --Darman (talk) 00:09, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for help

Hey, thanks for fixing that link for me. I could not figure out what I was doing wrong. <theproclamation> (talk) 20:57, May 30, 2016 (UTC)


Hey, next time you're on IRC, stick around for a bit if you can or type "r.msg I'm here" into #ACWiki so that I know you're there. I'm still working on your analysis category, but I'd like to check in with you on where you are with things and if you need anything -- basically say hi. DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 14:12, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Noted. Sorry. It's just when I've logged in there lately, it's mostly quiet, & I didn't think you were here (or there) as frequently, as your last edit was 1 month ago. --Darman (talk) 14:15, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Sir Gunn's Armor

My apologies with regards to the incorrect Style formatting of the Sir Gunn's armor contribution. I think it is a good idea to have the picture there in more of a thumbnail style like you have it now. My only question would be why remove the effective 'bonus' of the armor from the article? If it is located somewhere else on the wiki, I was unable to find it, which is what prompted me to contribute in the beginning. Thanks for cleaning the page up, looks much more cohesive now.Dread Loch (talk) 18:15, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

It's all good, formatting can get messy at times. If I recall correctly, Sir Gunn's armor doesn't have any abilities, only an aesthetic difference. The gas mask you mentioned is only seen on the Assassin Killer outfit from uPlay. --Darman (talk) 00:15, June 21, 2016 (UTC)
You have the gas mask ability with this armor as well, when you're in a situation when it is necessary to have it, you have the ability to press "A to equip Gas Mask" appears on the screen.Dread Loch (talk) 22:29, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps we're having a communication error on both ends. Let me try again: Sir Gunn's Armor, like most (not all) of the ACRG outfits, allows Shay to equip the gas mask when needed any time after Sequence 3-1, "The Color of Right". That I know of, the Assassin Killer's gas mask is only a cosmetic change, with the mask appearing always equipped even if the situation does not call for it, though I could be wrong. Does this make more sense? --Darman (talk) 08:10, June 24, 2016 (UTC)
I know that the Assassin Killer's outfit perk is that the gas mask ability is always on, no need for engaging  it.  I will check later this evening on Sir Gunn's Armor to see if the perk is permenant or not.Dread Loch (talk) 17:58, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Category Relevance

Hey Darman,
I saw you pop into the IRC, but my attention was elsewhere, so I figured I'd answer your question here. If you want to change the category order for articles like the example you gave, you are free to do so, but it's not as necessary as for character articles because they generally just have a lot more categories and it can look very disorganized without the "order of decreasing relevancy". You can always consult the other admins (best bet would probably be either DarkFeather or Sim), but my stance is basically: the "order of decreasing relevancy" rule for categories doesn't need to be enforced on articles that don't have a lot of categories, but adhering to it certainly does no harm.
Cheers! Crook The Constantine District 00:44, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for constantly popping in/out of IRC. I know it's frowned upon, but I keep disconnecting from the server or something. Gonna wait it out, see if it's my connection. Anyway, I wasn't thinking about altering character categories. I was thinking more, say, the War of Unification. It's listed as "Spoilers", "Stubs", then "Wars" and "Timeline", when as I said earlier, Wars are subset of a Timeline. To confirm: I'm free to flip the two as needed for consistency's sake? BTW, would the Timeline infobox go above or below the Isu one?
--Darman (talk) 01:01, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Don't worry, people will understand if your connection isn't stable. And yeah, I don't mind if you want to flip around categories like that. As for the order of those templates, I'm not sure if there's actually a rule for it. You'd have to ask someone else ^^; Crook The Constantine District 01:29, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Thx. It's just last time I popped in/out constantly, I'd accidentally "slapped" someone, thinking it was like a "poke", then couldn't find the type box & kept flipping back/forth, then quit to prevent further potential issues. Re: Category rearranging – I'll add it to my (growing) project list. I'll ask another Admin later on the infoboxes. Thx again, --Darman (talk) 01:38, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Black Cross

Hey Darman,

Regarding the changes you've made to the Black Crosses article and the William Stoughton article, where exactly is it stated that Stoughton is a Black Cross? In the 4th issue of the Assassins comic? Or the Templars one?

Additionally, I would like to point out, William Stoughton might not be the character you mean - from what I know of what a Black Cross is (it's not a lot, I have yet to read the Templars comic series), Samuel Parris would fit the description much better. The comics themselves get Stoughton and Parris mixed up though, so I understand the confusion. Can you get back to me on this? Thanks for reading. Crook The Constantine District 18:54, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

I thought he was a Cross. Issue 4 for the Titan Assassin comics page says so, at least. Did I jump the gun? I don't have the books, so I went off the wiki, and the issue's noted confusion between the two makes it worse... --Darman (talk) 19:20, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Just checked the summary for issue 4, yeah, that is definitely wrong. Whoever wrote it went off what the comic said, which I don't blame them for. I'm speeding through the Templars comics right now, cause I don't think the Assassins comic series ever explicitly called Parris a Black Cross, to look for some confirmation on that. Crook The Constantine District 19:35, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Alright. I'm working on duplicate links/unlinked pgs in the Titan comics. Shall I revert the previous edits & remove the Cross line? --Darman (talk) 19:40, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
You can. I will add Parris if I come across any evidence that he was indeed the Order's Black Cross at the time. Crook The Constantine District 19:45, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sourcing Question

Hi Darman. I've responded to your query on my talk page. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:19, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Skill tree

Thanks! You'd have to ask an admin about that - I just named the Odyssey page how I saw the other named and figured that was the standard. Raylan13@fandom (talk) 16:17, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Mass Edits

Hello, Darman. I apologize for editing sections so quickly, i'd had a lot on my mind during those edits, and just thought those pages would sound better in my mind, disregarding the thoughts of you and others on this wiki. Altair 0147 (talk) 11:24, September 25, 2018 (UTC)Altair 0147

Hey, no problem! Admittedly, there is a learning curve for Wiki writing formatting and style. I'd only meant that as a pointer, not a reprimand, so I apologize if I came off as blunt. You didn't step on anyone's toes, so I think you're good. Happy editing! -- Darman (talk) 23:01, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Skill trees

Hey Darman, thank you for reaching out to me! I especially appreciate your recognition of our sentence case naming policy as we've had quite a number of users who have been oblivious to it or fail to respect it. However in this case, I'm not entirely sure that tree shouldn't be capitalized. The reason is because conventionally, gameplay terms are capitalized and treated as proper nouns (i.e. in game manuals, game guides, reviews, etc.) so as to distinguish them as gameplay terms. This is normally necessary so as to avoid confusion. Per our in-universe writing policy, we normally make sure that all gameplay terms are translated into "real-life" terms anyways, but with certain articles, like the Skill Tree articles, these are expressly out-of-universe pages.

The question with the Skill Tree pages is that, if the game explicitly names the skill trees by this generic name of "Skill Tree" (i.e. named after what it is), then skill tree can be validly seen as either a gameplay term that should be capitalized or as a general noun not capitalized. If, on the other hand, the skill trees in the games aren't given this name (but given another name, e.g. Runes, formerly Masteries, in League of Legends), then you're absolutely right that the skill trees should not be capitalized. My apologies if I have made this a bit confusing. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 10:45, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Helix Rift Events

The events cycle through so I'm not sure its necessary to note when the event was active. Additionally with each new iteration of the same event they change which heroes give the synch bonuses. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:53, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hyphen vs En/Em dash vs colon

Hello Darman, thanks for asking about this since it is indeed a very common mistake among editors. In reality, usage of the hyphen in any context outside of compound words is technically grammatically incorrect, a point that even many professional companies tend to miss. The correct punctuation to be used in the subtitle of a title is always a colon, and with a subsequent subtitle, an en dash. Otherwise, hyphens and colons are not actually supposed to be interchangeable with dashes and have entirely different functions.

En dashes and em dashes actually are interchangeable when used in prose to set off additional information within a sentence, and usage of either is entirely a stylistic choice. The only requirement is that there must be single spaces flanking either side of an en dash when used in such a case. If an em dash is used instead, there should not be any space. However, our wiki prefers em dashes over en dashes for this function. One other usage of an em dash is in attributing quotes, although this is given automatically by the template.

You raise a legitimate concern, but hyphens simply do not belong in titles despite the common, unprofessional error made by even Ubisoft itself. If it is the case that our audience may have trouble finding articles due to being unfamiliar with typing dashes, then we should create pages with the hyphenated titles redirecting to the proper pages.

Finally, it is possible to type the dashes. There are different codes for it that you can find online, but the ones I am familiar with are ALT+0150 and ALT+0151 for en and em dashes respectively where ALT denotes holding down the ALT key while typing the numbers. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 02:10, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Lines being added

Hey Darman36, saw your edit summary earlier so I would just like to say I did not intend to do it on purpose. I merely added the link into the "Ibis Reborn" text, so I'm not too sure why the lines are moved. It could likely due to a FANDOM bug, similar to the one accompany the {{DISPLAYNAME}} tag. Just wanna let you know and I apologies for the inconvenience caused. XOdeyssusx (talk) 14:56, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. It's just that you were the last edit, so I thought it was you. My apologies for the bad faith. Damn, I hate it when Fandom bugs mess up stuff! -- Darman (talk) 15:08, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

No full sync

I have responded to your question on my talk page. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:30, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Altering image source & licensing

Hello Darman, I've noticed the widespread changes you've made to hundreds of our images today. Can you explain a bit what is the purpose for these changes? I find them to look really messy now, and I can't even put it into words, only that this...
Looks very disruptive. I have never seen that template before, but if it indicates the same licensing as {{CC-BY-SA}} why not just use {{CC-BY-SA}} in the license field of the information box? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 20:32, April 21, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Sol,
Sorry for the edit spam on the pics. I'm just going through the achievements page and noticed that we hadn't properly sourced the AC3 achievement icons. We also need larger Brotherhood icons, but when I tried uploading the icons, they look...funny. There's some bars on the bottom of the pngs that aren't there originally, and I've not altered them in any way. As for the licensing: damnit, I see the template code went weird; I've seen the blank spaces in the Cc-by-sa-3.0 before but thought they were just a glitch on my end. Wait, they're the same license?!? *sigh* Guess that's what comes from not reading properly. My sincerest apologies for messing up the aesthetic. I'll fix all instances of that ASAP. -- Darman (talk) 05:10, April 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hello again, sorry for such a late reply. I did indeed forget about your suggestion when I read it while I was busy, so thank you for reminding me. Yes, feel free to make corrections to the two templates. :) Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 22:33, May 15, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Ubisoft articles

Of course it's a given that if a link is broken or outdated, we should fix it with an archived version of the page. It defeats the whole point of sourcing otherwise. :) Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 13:54, April 26, 2019 (UTC)

Various Rebellion stuff

So for the time being, the CM doesn't want her real name on the wikia, at least not while she is still the CM, but she's fine with her forum name which I put. She did not confirm who 3P3EC74R works for, so it could be Erudito or something completely different. Couple other thoughts: Should we create an IU Rebellion page separate to the AC: Reb page similar to Liberation and the AC: Lib pages? And, the messages sent from Player Admin and 3P3EC74R through the Mobile Animus chats aren't really part of the memories. Should they be included on them or should we move them to something like the 21st century conversations? – Lacrossedeamon (talk) 12:29, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

A pity we won't know if a 3P3EC74R/Erudito link exists. It'd have been nice if it was even denied, but maybe it'll show up later? Thanks for asking, though! As for your questions, I don't know if we need another Rebellion page. I'd always thought that users just happened to use an Abstergo Animus in our world, eg. Rogue and Unity, and not that it was an in-universe game. When you describe the memory dialogue like that, I can certainly see a case for moving them to 21st cen. convo's, but I think you're better off asking a Staff for both matters, as they'll have a better idea where things go. – Darman (talk) 20:10, December 12, 2019 (UTC)

Date of Rebellion memories

Hello Darman, a few other editors told me just now that the missions in the first few regions of Rebellion are set a few years prior to 1492. I got the impression that the game begins in 1492 because of our memory pages on them. They told me this is incorrect, and I noticed that you were the one who changed the dates to 1492 in the infoboxes. Can you please give me your reasoning to help us verify the correct date? Thank you! Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 21:38, March 27, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sol,
I'll gladly explain! But where in the missions does it say they are prior to 1492? Unless my eyes skipped it, I don't see anything. Anyway, I worked off the AC film's intro showing Aguilar's formal initiation in 1492. I felt it had to have happened before Rebellion's Prologue, where he says it's his first mission as a (true) Assassin, in keeping with the Spaniards seeming more orthodox in following the Levantine Order's practices. However, the assumption does not apply for Region 5's last 3 missions leading to Torquemada's death. While he died in 1498, no date is given in-game. The most players get are Aguilar's logs saying Tomás "has not appeared in public for years" since "he has had years to study the Staff". I think we can easily assume there was a time skip from 1492–1498 in the Spanish Order's activities. – Darman (talk) 05:20, March 28, 2020 (UTC)
So there are a number of contradiction that need to parsed for this. The movie state 1492 for the ceremony but Granada capitulated on January 2nd of that year. That most likely means that memory 18 Fall of Granada happens no later than that date. The novelization however moves the ceremony and failed rescue of the prince back a year to 1491. The other historical scenes aren’t labeled but Sophia mentions the 6th as the date for Benedicto's death. The memories War of Attrition and Ammunition Ablaze mention the start and end to the siege of Baza from 1489-1490. This being the case might put memory 18 in November of 1491 which was the end of siege of Granada. Finally Aguilar's bio in the game actually states he joined the Assassins in 1487. The ceremony from the movie and novelization might therefore not actually be an initiation but a promotion. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:44, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
Putting aside for a moment that the film suggests (almost certainly erroneously) that every Animus scene is set in 1492, are we absolutely sure that the scene where Muhammad XII is to give the Apple to Torquemada is set during the formal capitulation ceremony and not during the surrender in the Siege of Granada? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 08:58, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
I for one am not certain. The novelization makes it seem more likely that it's surrender and not the capitulation. I'd say it depends on which we believe overrules the other. Does anyone know if Christie Golden answers fan question? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:40, March 29, 2020 (UTC)
But even the film itself doesn't say clearly that it is the formal capitulation and the not the surrender of the city. The year it gives is a different matter than what event it is meant to depict since the year itself is already known to be most likely erroneous in the context of most of the events and therefore unreliable. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 10:08, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

I actually haven't finished the game yet, but the description for this last memory, "The Fall of Granada", pretty much says that it's occurring during, well, the Fall of Granada as "Torquemada and the Army of the Inquisition are entering Alhambra". So this is the exact same scene from the movie then right? Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 01:12, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
(Damn, I step away for 1 day!) Thanks for clearing up the dates, I didn't know there were so many inconsistencies between media and real history. Infuriating, to say the least. I'm sorry for inadvertently causing such confusion with my edits. Lacrossedeamon, I'm near-certain Golden answers fan questions, for ex. via Twitter, though she's been busy with Star Wars of late, so I don't know how good her memory will be for AC. As for ACReb's Torquemada scene, Sol, yes, it's the same: Muhammad XII et al. have just left the room as Tomás reveals the Apple to the Templars, before Aguilar enters absent María and fights Ojeda, whom he kills as Tomás escapes. – Darman (talk) 03:15, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Response on Cult talk page

Hey just to keep you aware the situation, the person you tried to respond to is a sock puppet and the reason why that page got locked in the first place. We realize it’s inconvenient to have a page locked like this for a indefinite time but the edit warring was starting to get out of hand. Hopefully the guy loses interest and we can unlock it in the near future. For the time being if you have any suggested edit either use the article‘s talk page or one of our own. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:03, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Ahh. I thought they were a sock, given how cocky they were in their Cult/Templar belief for such a new account, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the tip, but I don't have any suggested edits now. Even if I did, they'd likely be minor, so I'm willing to wait until Staff reach a decision. – Darman (talk) 04:20, May 9, 2020 (UTC)
Hey Darman! I don't know if you are on the discord or not, but I just made a blog post about this guy and his sockpuppets: here. - Soranin (talk) 18:24, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Merge Proposals

Hey, Darman! I just opened up a discussion on our open merge proposals. It's quite long, but if we discuss it we can close them (especially because there are some from 2014 still unsolved :o)

If you have the time, could you offer some input? Thank you a lot. - Soranin (talk) 22:27, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

Sure! I don't know how much sway I'll have, and I doubt the changes will affect me much as I'll just follow the community decision, but I'll give input where I can. Thanks! – Darman (talk) 23:40, May 21, 2020 (UTC)


I haven't gotten around to sourcing the Buckingham Palace images and I'm working on sourcing not just the Buckingham Palace images, but the rest of the images that needs to be sourced. Andrewh7 (talk) 22:35, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Never mind. I thought you meant before uploading them to the wiki like using the File summary to do it all at once or something. Maybe, but after uploading the rest of the images, adding the sourcing sounds taxing and prefer to reverse search them at that point. Andrewh7 (talk) 22:52, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
If there are images that are from multiple sources, do I just write each source link to the ArtStation page or the entire template? Either way, would they have to be in order? Andrewh7 (talk) 02:12, June 14, 2020 (UTC)
From what you said before it sounded that way and now you’re saying not to do that? So I have to include the link and the template? What if they are images that are completely different things / places and aren’t all the same? What then? Andrewh7 (talk) 03:16, June 16, 2020 (UTC)
Not just from the same set, but could also be from completely different ones. On an unrelated note, if I wanted / felt like certain characters needed closeups that lacked them, is there anyone in particular that I should ask? Are side characters / NPCs the only ones that can have closeup images or can playable characters have them too? Andrewh7 (talk) 05:00, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

Le Louvre Gallery

By the way, you added the Environment art caption to images of interior images. Thought you should know, so you could think of the right caption to change it since it isn’t an environment image. Andrewh7 (talk) 03:19, June 16, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

Yes, thanks. I used it for now, reasoning that they're renders of an enclosed environment instead of The Outside we usually associate with that word. I plan to update them when I find out what building they are within the Louvre, but feel free to do it yourself, too.– Darman (talk) 03:55, June 16, 2020 (UTC)


Had two suggestions I wanted to run by you. I noticed there isn’t a family section in the infobox. Maybe there should be. It would make things easier knowing who is related to who when users don’t know and the information is located on various parts of the page. There are characters that have gameplay alternatives that have different endings depending on the choice made. Perhaps a category can be created to notify users that the character has alternative gameplays and the endings stated on the pages may not necessarily be the case for every player right off the bat. Andrewh7 (talk) 04:23, June 27, 2020 (UTC) Andrewh7

Re: redirects

I have two check boxes, follow this page and leave redirect. I assumed they were available to all editors but maybe it’s a permissions only thing. In that case, oops! I lied to the other guy. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:22, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

Purpose of redirects

Hey Darman, I think I've explained this before, but "unused redirect" is not really a valid reason to put redirect pages up for deletion. The two latest examples I was looking at were "Artist (Piagnoni)" and "Mayan stelae". In the latter, you gave the reason that it is an "unused link except for once on talk page".

Redirects serve to link to articles using an alternate term or phrase; ensure that any page which has been redirected doesn't immediately cause the former link to become dead; and finally, so that users who type in a different search term than the exact title can still find the article.

The first function is rendered moot by the fact that we have this convention of always linking using the exact article title anyways, followed by the pipe for the alternate term we wish to use... this is technically speaking not a codified policy, and it's just a convention carried over Wookieepedia who banned using redirects as links for whatever reason. But let's ignore this first function.

The second purpose, you understand, which seems to be your reason why those two redirect pages should be deleted.

But it doesn't seem like you understand the third. Redirects serve to help visitors find the article they're looking for because they auto-fill to the right article if they mistyped or used an alternate name for it. So let's say that a visitor thought to search for "Mayan stelae" instead of "Mayan stele". By keeping the redirect page for "Mayan stelae", they'll still be directed to the right page.

Now in some cases, even without the redirect page, they'll still be auto-filled along the way, as in the case with "Mayan stelae". By the time one hits "Mayan stel-" they should find the page, but this isn't always true since some alternate names may be entirely different. Maybe one can argue that we shouldn't be keeping redirects where the auto-fill leads to the correct title appearing ahead of the mistake, but I am accustomed to maintaining pluralized titles as redirect pages.

As a result, redirect pages which have common misspellings are spelled correctly but lack the appropriate diacritics, or where the title has been inflected do not automatically need to be deleted. That they are "unused", if you mean not linked to anywhere currently, is also not a valid reason for deletion. This also means that "typographical error" is also not always a valid reason for deletion. Make no mistake, this doesn't mean we should arduously create redirect pages solely to account for all kinds of possible misspellings, only that you must be mindful that a misspelling or inexact title isn't always an immediate cause for deletion.

I deleted "Artist (Piagnoni)" with the view that it is probably unlikely someone would accidentally type for that instead given that "Piagnoni" is a disambiguating term, and it is not a commonly known word. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 21:01, July 1, 2020 (UTC)

Ahhh, OK. Thank you for explaining that more. I'm sorry about the mess, then. I'll try to keep this in mind and be less eager in my redirect edits in the future. Thank you. – Darman (talk) 21:20, July 1, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Animus Archetypes

Yes, and I wrote him a sorry message. I now cannot write in my sandbox. It will stay incomplete. Just a thanks for your involvement. But why don't he blocked me? I published something under construction, and that's not right. I have to thank Sol. GodGamer GodConsole 18:10, July 2, 2020 (UTC)

I don't think Lacrosse has the admin rights to block users. As best I understand, his job as a Moderator is page clean-up and ensuring users play nice. The reason why you aren't blocked is because, as Sol said, he "see[s] your edits as being made in earnest faith". The Staff believe the pages you've started are needed, it's just that your writing and sourcing needs work to match the standards set here. I'm sure you'll be able to edit your sandbox in time, but as I'm not Staff, I don't know when. – Darman (talk) 00:00, July 3, 2020 (UTC)
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