Left a message as promised
Alright. I finished the revamp of Gaspar de la Croix. Let me know if you think it's better than Manuel was. Thanks! ~DarkFeather There will be blood -- just make sure it's the right person's. 15:24, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
I made an earlier edit which included Harash as an assassin who became a templar, and you edited the article to remove Haras as an assassin who became a templar. No offense, but I think both of these guys (who share oddly familiar names) should be listed as assassins who defected to the side of the templars because in Harash's article explicitly states "Harash secretly defected to the Templar Order," and Haras' article says "[Haras] defected to the Templar Order after becoming dissatisfied with his slow progression through the Assassin ranks." So, wouldn't both of them be considered Assassins who betrayed their brethren by becoming Templars?
Neurotoxiny 06:09, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Haras is quoted saying something along the lines of, "I cannot betray those who I never truly loved." That indicates that he never had any loyalties to the Assassin Order. As for what is written on his page, if I recall correctly, he was a Templar who infiltrated the Assassins to learn their secrets.. and whatnot. Eventually he would have organised a siege on the town to try and wipe out the Assassins. However, due his slow progress, he believed that the operation was becoming a tedious failure, and decided to reveal himself and orchestrate an early attack. Still, I'll check with our Assassin's Creed Encyclopedia to be sure. Also, instead of doing those massive links, such as [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Haras Haras], do them like this, [[Haras]], and if you want it to link to, for example, Altaïr's article, but don't want the page to show the full "Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad", you would do [[Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad|Altaïr]]. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 06:25, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Alright, I get what you're saying about Haras now :P and thanks for the tips on linking, I'm still getting used to this wiki-editing stuff :)
- Neurotoxiny 06:32, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I was reading the Apprentice page to see what requirements are needed in order to sign up, and I was wondering if you could clarify a few things for me.
What does it mean by "mainspace edits", and how big do the major edits have to be?
Will edits on Fanons still count to the 250 required edits?
With the questions asked during the interviews, what will the "Community" questions be about?
If you could help me out it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Arcemz 09:58, April 18, 2012 (UTC)Arcemz
- Mainspace edits are edits done to our main articles on the Assassin's Creed series. No Forums, Blogs, User page, Talk page, etc, edits count as mainspace. Major edits are things such as full page revamps, or adding vast amounts of information.
- The 250 is total edits, which means edits to everything and anything go towards that. Obviously, this includes Fanon.
- And... Community questions will be questions about... the Community. Can't really make it any more simple than that without telling you the questions... -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 10:19, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks for the feedback. So basically community questions are about who's who on the wiki, and how to respect and treat other fans of the series? Arcemz 11:21, April 18, 2012 (UTC)Arcemz
- More so the latter. I can't reveal to much, you'll find out once/if you sign up. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 11:30, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks. Arcemz 11:31, April 18, 2012 (UTC)Arcemz
Could you help with the sign-up? Because it keeps going outside the box and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Also, I've done 200 edits on articles, I'm not sure why it says otherwise? Arcemz 03:38, April 20, 2012 (UTC)Arcemz
- Do it in Source Mode and make sure it's above the <div> tag. According to this Edit Counter, you don't have 200. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 03:45, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'm not sure why it said I had 201 edits on my page, but I continued editing according to the Edit Counter and I've reached the required amount. Sorry about the mess-up, but thanks for the help. Arcemz 07:03, April 20, 2012 (UTC)Arcemz
Templar or Templar-owned?
However, when you look at Abstergo Files, it mentions in the first Dossier that not every employee at Abstergo is a Templar and the majority of the people working there are unaware of the affliation that Abstergo has.
With that in mind, due to the small division of Templars in there (the Inner Sanctum), wouldn't it be more understandable that it's "Templar-owned" when you take the total workforce there into consideration? Slate Vesper 20:30, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Holy shit Slate, you've got to be kidding, surely your could find something else more productive to do than point this out...
- Abstergo is a Templar company, it is run by Templars, adding an "owned" to the end of it is just trivial. Like putting the "Mentor" title before Ezio's name, you can take it or leave it, and is such a small concern that to actually pick at it like you've done here is ridiculous. I just happened to be editing those pages for other reasons, so when I saw "owned" at the end of "Abstergo" I took it away simply because it wasn't really necessary and sounded a bit better without it. If it was significant enough to bring into question I would've changed it on all the MP pages, but it's such a tiny detail I never believed that anyone would actually care. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 02:01, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
- Quite honestly Blaidd, I wasn't going to at first, but I figured I'd just ask for consistency across the articles. If you say it's not that important to consider, it's as simple as someone going along to cut all those parts out. After all, it's best to do that to clear the air, instead of having people getting the wrong impression like I may have done.
- I would prefer it if you didn't try and psycho-analyse me though. Sometimes, some people just have to think things through and try and connect all the links, in order to find a solution that appeals to them, just as much as others are content with taking things at face value. Slate Vesper 02:13, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
Re: Fanon edits
First of all Blaidd, now that you've mentioned it to me, I'll make sure to ask before renaming Fanon articles belonging to others appropriately.
What I don't get however is that Teller and Nesty somehow don't have to ask or notify the user to rename articles, before or afterwards, though I was only doing the same thing that they had done themselves. I get that they're Fanon Staff, but I wouldn't say that renaming an article is completely "exceptional" since it's only for appearance's sake. Because of this, I figured that it was more of a non-issue, considering that I hadn't altered their fanon in any way, aside from shortening the titles down to fit with the AC:Fanon standards.
Also, where do you get the right to call me a "control freak"? All I've been doing is sorting out the articles and making them easier to work with, so if having a little order there is wrong, I'll stop editing Fanon full stop if that makes up "backing off." If you want me to be completely honest, I figured that by helping out Teller, Nesty and Guard, I could maybe earn the right to be a Fanon Staff member, but I doubt that would come soon enough as it's restricted to Istruttorium members only. Slate Vesper 16:13, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I haven't even seen Nesty rename a Fanon article, and the only renames from Teller I've seen have been moving them out of the mainspace. Though I'm sure one of them would have done it at some point, and they probably/hopefully at least alerted the author in some way.
- As for my "control freak" statement, that has been building up for a while now. First when you got involved with something that didn't concern you in any way, being my comments to Zephalian. Then you started renaming Fanon categories without properly discussing it with anyone. Next was your "minor" edits to other people's Fanons without their permission, and the fact that you even tried to argue that rule. Followed by the recent Templar-owned Abstergo situation. And now finally this. So yeah, I suggest you ease up and focus your time and effort on other, more productive things. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 06:31, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
- I have to say Blaidd, relying on probably and hopefully won't guarantee it will happen.
- Also, when it comes to the other points, I know it didn't concern me, but telling another editor to "fuck off the Wiki" just because they were being whiny isn't really a pleasant way to inspire community here. Also, for the Fanon categories, I had mentioned something about them to Cello and Teller on the IRC, and they thought it was a decent idea, but then there was a prolonged absense in both of them and some editors were asking "How do I find my fanon now that I've made it?"
- I get that it was brash and sudden, but I was doing it to improve efficiency between being able to navigate through them for both regular editors and the Staff. For the grammar edits, I know I did try to back myself up with that, but I realised I was wrong and I stopped, and I haven't tried to edit the details of another user's stories since without permission.
- The Templar-owned thing may have been trivial too, but the only reason I brought it up was because it was changed to just Templar on 2 character articles, and I figured I would come straight to the source since you changed them. I was only trying to know which one to put, considering there are all the characters that link to the multiplayer personas and I wanted to know what was right in order to rectify it on the others.
- In all Blaidd, I'm not saying this out of disrespect for you, quite the opposite in fact, since you're a great editor and Staff member here. But as you say, I'll try not to be as hectic from now on. Slate Vesper 15:30, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Bomb-diggity. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 13:42, June 21, 2012 (UTC)
I'm deeply sorry for ignoring your message. I'm just getting to know controls and that, see i know this is going to sound pathatic for you i didn't see my messages maybe coz i was making up gibberish at the time which is true so I am deeply sorry with regrets
I will call you Master coz your higher than me. Master you may have already read the other message from me but here is a new one. I am a Badge hunter, I am a disrespectful editor on this site, I am sorry for what i have done and I am gibberish editor and an idiot for doing so. I now this may be late, but i just read your message today, i know this won't do anything though.
Deeply sorry with regrets Master
You have the Grand Master badge?
How on Earth did you manage something like that?!
Hello I just wanted to tell a admin that my photos have been removed or something because I cant see them anymore and I had to keep putting them back on my profile for like 4 times and I am just sick of it. Can you help me?
Cheers for the messages fellas, I had a great day/night yesterday. Glad to see I made enough of an impact here that even after I've left, people still take the time to wish me a happy birthday. Or maybe the fun-loving Dutchman just forced everyone to do it cus he wanted to do something nice for me because he cares so much. D'aaawwwwwwwwww, how sweet. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 00:55, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
Yggdrasil and their coats.
Coincidences in these games rarely exists or not at all. Ubisoft randomly decided to dress these guys similarly and wear the emblem of Yggdrasil (a well known symbol mind you) for no reason at all. *sarcasm* Yggdrasil which held the nine worlds in Norse mythlogy and in Rogue there were First Civ. monuments that held the world together or parts of it atleast. Hmmm no connection there. I thought it was cool that Juhani had a Viking ancestor. lol Everything is connected in these games and the crew in Ubisoft are clever. Funny how the past in this game focuses on Shay and the present mostly focuses on Juhani's past and present doings. Why him and not other modern day Templar? Juhani had an interest in Rogue Assassins as well so of they're not related then it's admiration. Still a strange thing to dress him similarly as the game's main protagonist. So Juhani wears a Led Zeppelin shirt and is a fan of them. Oh, and I forgot Juhani was not very familiar at first with Shay soooo the whole "admiration" thing you can scratch it off. I KNOW there's a reason why these guys are dressed similar and no it's because Ubisoft randomly wanted it to be so. In a game were bloodlines are the focus, anything is possible.
If all of this is coicidence then Ubisoft must be bored or out of ideas which I doubt. :)
When you've been at this as long as I have you see that a lot of these small connections or coincidences ultimately add up to a whole lot of nothing. Obviously not always though. So their coats possess a similar shape. You can't tell me with 100% certainty that this means something because you were not part of the team that created the game. Now this symbol, where is it exactly? While I'll admit you've got quite the story there of drawing comparisons, it doesn't belong on an article, keep that to a forum or blog for people to discuss. As for why they gave a lot of focus on Otso in the modern day parts of the game, it's probably just because he's going to be a major player in coming events and we need to know a bit about him, and why not learn about the Templars' biggest draft pick of the season while we play as a Templar ourselves - it doesn't have to have any special meaning. After all Ubisoft aren't that clever, they've given us three different death dates for Achilles' family so certainly somebody over there is adding a bit of "fun" to their morning coffee and perhaps losing focus. Like I said before, really not everything is connected in AC. It's not as complicated as people make it out to be, in fact people often over-complicate it as you've done here by over-thinking all the possible things these symbols could represent. I'll not be holding my breath waiting for Ubisoft to release a statement or additional content focusing on the Yggdrasil symbol on both their clothes and offering cookies to the wise few who noticed. Of course if they do, feel free to come back here and I'll whip up a fresh tray of cookies just for you. Fair warning though, they will be raisin, not chocolate chip cus I don't like being wrong. -- 'R BlaiddDdraig Funk Man's Funky House of Funk 08:03, December 5, 2014 (UTC)