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  • I was just wondering where that came from. Whenever I saw promo art on the official AC and Ubisoft websites it was always Alexios. Even the DLC shows him. So wouldn't that make Alexios the canon playable character? It would make sense given how in reality women in most of Greece were treated terribly and married women weren't allowed to leave their homes witout their husbands and had to wear viels, while the Persians were more egalitarian, so Darius would be OK with Neema being an active female assassin. Though Spartan's were almost as egalitarian as the Persians. I'm just saying, Kassandra wouldn't be able to command any respect or be treated as a normal human being by almost all of the Greek world, where Neema (appears if Alexios is pc) would come from a culture that views women in a more equal light to men so there would be no problem with her escapades from family.

    But then again, this game is full of revisionist history. Like the lack of Spartan women wearing chitoniskos and competing with the men in the Spartan sports games. There was a massive lack of slaves, most Spartan inhabitants were slaves, why they would slaughter their slaves every once in awhile. Kassandra/Alexios also wouldn't be considered Spartan citizens until they took the citizenship exam that's required for all Spartan born individuals to take, and pass, or else they'd become a slave after turning 18. Then the children, they're wearing clothing. A lot of Greeks didn't dress their children until they reached a young age (I get why they didn't do that and left out the gymnopedia and I think that decision is for the best). 

    That's only the tip of the iceberg, but I guess if they're kind of rewritting history it would be ok to have a female canon character. I don't know, what do you guys think?

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    • Hi Wormgalore!

      This has been an issue of confusion since the game came out, however Kassandra's 'canon' status came from the novelization of the game and was the further supported by the Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide and other non-fiction sources all identifying Kassandra as "The Eagle-Bearing misthios".

      So bottom line, Kassandra is canon, the end.

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    • But how could kassandra have posed as elpenor with a mask meant for men and spoken to other cultists in their lair along with pretending to be hermes in kephallonia with a woman's voice? She also would be in a play where she would be leonidas. Would people not react to that in the story?
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    • Blueball19 wrote:
      But how could kassandra have posed as elpenor with a mask meant for men and spoken to other cultists in their lair along with pretending to be hermes in kephallonia with a woman's voice? She also would be in a play where she would be leonidas. Would people not react to that in the story?
      a lot of women throughout history posed as men for various reasons, especially in war/during war so it's not that hard to believe
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    • Did it sound like she was even trying to vocally mimic a man in any of these 3 instances?

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    • Alexios sounds to be normally appealing the majority of people's preference. Like in mainstream Holiwood movies, a male protagonist going through his adventure interacts with warious female characters of different looks and natures, as Alexios does in the alternative plot. Kassandra doesn't, she acts oppositely as a powerful, resourceful heroine romancing with a weaker man, which implies that ubi might be encouraging/advocating an alternative relationship between two sexes. In a word, it's political correctness. Sounds fine to me.

      However, the explanation to the scenes of Kassandra posing as Elpenor, Hermes, and stage playing vocally as Leonidas doesn't appear to be natural.

      Another thing, Odyssey doesn't give the depiction when Kassandra/Neema is pregnant and the game doesn't contain the very adventure during the gestation period, in which Kassadra can be too vulnerable to leap around, and Alexios tends to spend more time looking after his woman. In this assumption, Alaxios could be a better game character to play.

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    • I have a theory that despite what Ubisoft now claims, Alexios was the only intended playable character until very late into development of the game. If you remember after first screenshots, trailers and vids many people derisively called the game "A glorified DLC for Origins" basically thinking it was not innovative enough. So during one brainstorming session someone came up with the idea of mixing it up a bit and making Cassandra (who might have been intended to be Deimos from the start) playable too and turning it into a selling point. Problem was , most of the quests were voiced over and finished by that time and it would have been a huge undertaking to tweak them all. 

      It is very noticeable in many quests. Apart from those mentioned it really became obvious to me once I got to the Olympic games segment of the story. As you know historically these were male-only events. Yet not only can you participate as Cassandra but there is no difference in npc dialogue. Responces and opponents you face (all male) are exactly the same as with Alexios. But you might say "Well this is Ubisoft version of Ancient Greece, perhaps here women can participate". Problem is there is a side quest in Olympia where certain lady is about to be thrown from a cliff for merely watching the games let alone participating in them and later even laments how she cannot watch her son. So historical sexism does exist even in  this Ubisoft version of Antiquity yet no one even comments on Cassandra appearing. If it was too much effort for them to make her participate in Herean games in Olympia which were female only, few lines of dialogue from someone or merely making all her opponents in pankration female would have been something.

      In order to avoid potential backclash and claims that Ubisoft did not put enough effort into female protagonist which would inevitably come if they said Alexios was planned to be the only playable character with Cassandra being added later, they chose to make Cassandra canon character and claim the story was written with her in mind as player character all along even though considering everything it is doubtful. Even DLC quests like Old flame burns brighter and entire romance with Neema make much more sense when playing as Alexios.

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    • Lazar,

      You definitely put a lot of thought into this and it does make a certain amount of sense but I'm not convinced one way or the other.

      There are plenty of quests/relationships that work better as Kassandra including the Daughters of Artemis and Xenia questlines among others. The one Olympic sidequest you mentioned is probably Ubisoft not realizing the wider implication of including what is an actual historical anecdote. Furthermore Neema doesn't exist if you play Kassandra.

      And if the decision was that late in development I'm not sure Doherty would have had enough time to write his novelization which seems to be based on an earlier version of the script.

      It's doubtful that Ubisoft will ever address any of this but it is interesting to think about.

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