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Other tainted ones

Could Ezio and Desmond be considered "Tainted Ones" as they could use pieces of eden with no adverse side-effects? B O O F H E A D 1 8 5 (talk) 11:28, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

It's possible that they are–Desmond in particular is described as being a confluence of multiple bloodlines possessing high levels of Isu DNA–but they're not currently confirmed to be, so we cannot include them in the article or category. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:35, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Hybrids

The Fate of Atlantis: Judgment of Atlantis labels Kassandra as a hybrid, which would suggest that the "Tainted Ones" are not, in fact, humans, but hybrids themselves. It seems to me that it might be appropriate to merge this article with hybrids. now --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 16:23, July 22, 2019 (UTC)

I'm actually against this change. It is still uncertain how much of the simulation was changed from Aletheia's time as Dikastes and there is a real chance that Aletheia is in fact a hybrid instead. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 08:44, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

There's no evidence whatsoever to suggest Aletheia is a hybrid - quiite the opposite infact, since all of her base-game dialogue makes clear that she was an Isu who sided with humanity. Also, to quote Aletheia herself: "What you have experienced are echoes of memories, distorted, but no less real" which suggests that, whilst certain aspects or events depicted in the simulations are manipulated (e.g. Kassandra clones and references to her actions in Elysium and Hades) the context around these events remains true.

The fact that Kassandra is called a hybrid on multiple occasions and by multiple Isu and humans makes me certain that this is more than a simple oversight, and is perhaps an attempt to clarify something not made clear in the base game. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:26, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

I disagree and think that the plot points surrounding the clones, Phanes's codices, and Elpis are evidence that Aletheia was a hybrid and that the simulation isn’t as distorted as you guess. I’m not saying we go edit her page until there is direct confirmation on that but I feel that until we also have a strict definition on how much Isu DNA is needed to be considered a hybrid and if Kassandra meets that criterium we shouldn’t reclassify her either. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:39, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

Aletheia states, quite clearly, that she is an Isu ("I am as Isu as you, but I will no longer be part of your exploitation"). Kassandra, on the otherhand, is referred to numerous times as a hybrid – regardless of whether either of us believe she fits the strict criteria (i.e. 50% human 50% Isu), we cannot and should not ignore that. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 10:10, July 23, 2019 (UTC)