Is there a source stating that there are multiple swords? I don't see why Genghis Khan's sword and Germain's can't be the same weapon (difference in appearance can easily be attributed to artistic licence). --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 16:34, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
- Until now, I assumed that the pictures displayed in AC: Memories had the same status that a screenshot of the main games, that they were a canon depiction of a precise and defined in-universe moment, that they weren't like a concept art, a non-canon artistic interpretation.
- So, with such a discrepancy in design between the two known canon depiction of a sword of Eden, in my opinion it can safely be assumed that the two swords are not the same sword but different weapons. Moreover, Syndicate clearly states that Hephaestus and Consus created more than one sword... Maxattac (talk) 17:04, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
The fact there are multiple Swords and Staves was already stated in the very first edition of the Encyclopedia and this article has been named "Swords" ever since. However, I am not particularly satisfied with naming this "Sword of Eden 1". Why is this Sword of Eden 1? Was it ever named as such? To my knowledge it wasn't. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 12:00, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
- It just seemed appropriate to continue the naming policy used for the various Apples and Shrouds of Eden...Maxattac (talk) 12:23, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
The names for the Apples come from AC1 and AC2. I'm asking not because I'm opposed to creating separate articles but because I just want to have some solid reasoning for the specific numbers. -- Master Sima Yi Clogs 12:36, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
- Although I'm not entirely convinced we need separate articles for these particular PoEs, I do think that maintaining a consistent approach to number the Pieces, by simply following the precedent set with the Applies, is best.
- I should point out that (despite the fact I created the article) Shroud of Eden 1 and Shroud of Eden 2 are never called as such, in fact the closest we get to an official name for either of those two is Shroud 1 being called a "prototype". --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:25, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
Piece of Eden 25?
Question: if this Sword is Piece of Eden 25, aka the sword Jeanne d'Arc used in the Hundred Years' War, doesn't that mean Jeanne somehow broke into the Temple, removed the Sword and then, years later, placed it back again? I haven't read Heresy, but this doesn't make a lot of sense to me :s Crook The Constantine District 10:07, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
- Simon Hathaway just speculates that it was removed from the Temple for unexplained reasons and buried where it was then found by Jeanne. Then whoever recovered it after she lost it returned it to the Temple. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 12:53, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
- That sounds awfully contrived, but okay. Crook The Constantine District 11:45, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
- It's found by Laxart (and de Metz) in Sainte-Catherine-de-Fierbois after Joan asks him to retrieve the sword for her. If I'm remembering correctly, the Templar presence was driven out of mainland Europe after de Molay's execution so they retreat to England from where they basically manipulate the Hundred Years' War with a sight on regaining their position in France. So it's not unreasonable that the Temple was hit while the Templars were weak and the Sword was taken. The book doesn't say who stole the Sword from Joan (someone basically goes "yoink!" when she's distracted by her injury) but that the Templars returned it to the Temple. The Codex isn't mentioned though. But Consus works in mysterious I guess? Vetinari(Appointment) 16:42, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
Sword of Eden 1's owners
I've seen the fifth glyph in ACII and it describes the Sword wielded by Perseus, Attila the Hun, Sigmund, King Arthur and Joan of Arc as the same: PIECE OF EDEN 25. So, why don't we include that in the article? There is any clue in the franchise that rejects this point? Miracle guy (talk) 00:04, September 12, 2017 (UTC)