This sword looks sickk
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. (: I feel like a bit of an idiot, but I'm not sure how to change the title of the page itself from "... Altair" to "... Altaïr." Also, should we really keep the sword stats section if there is an image showing the same information? --Aftyn 09:32, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
I think we should get rid of the sword stat pic since there is a pic with the same stats (Enzio)
I find it very funny that Altaïr's sword in AC 2 is actually the 3rd last sword Altaïr is rewarded with in AC 1. The 2nd last sword he gets is the same sword only that the handle is of a blank metal and not brown wood. The last and best sword Altaïr gets in AC 1 is the "Old Syrian Sword" one of the first you can buy in AC2.
What could cause the blade change? Well i've given it some thoughts:
Well the old Syrian sword might have been better under the crusade, its thicker more massive and heavier, thats good against men in chain mail and plates, since you can bend the plate make it impossible for a knight to move, or you can hit the chain mail hard enough for it to break, and if not the weapon is heavy enough for the enemy to get a wound anyway.
In Assassins Creed 2, the Renessance the guards were either plated like hell, or carrying lighter armor or non at all... Italy is not a war zone and the guards are there for taking care of thieves and fist fighting peasants. Any way my point is, When fighting light equipped enemies its better with a thinner faster and sharp sword, and that might be the reason for a weapon change.
Crusades: Fighting soldiers armored and equipped for war, A more heardy and strong sword to break the defense.
Renesance: Light equipped guards fast guards: the need of a strong heavier sword isn't there, and you chose a fast light weapon, since your opponents aren't wearing armor, you can cut them like cheese.
Of course the bruits are an exception, but usually you use speed to tackle these slow tanks.
Mr.Pheenox 19:46, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Sword modified with the apple?
Hi... just wondered, if Altaïr used the apple to modify the sword, wouldn't it had been mentioned in the codex?
Mr.Pheenox 07:23, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
Well, Altaϊr made the Altaϊr's Armor(AC2) so i think along with the armour, the blade improvements and staff he also produced a brand new sword that was by far better that any other at the time..I don't remember the codex I haven't played AC2 for some time but I remember Altaϊr was saying he was exploring the apple and that with this knoledge he improved his inventory.. :/ 184.108.40.206 10:26, May 11, 2011 (UTC)
Wrong choice of sword?
This is a thought being posted way late, but am I the only one who thinks that AC2 should have had Altair's second short blade as the reward for unlocking Altair's armor? Sure his sword has great stats in AC2, but I spent a lot of time in the original Assassin's Creed looking at that short blade (what my bro and I have come to call "the Elven blade"). I think it's more recognizable than Altair's sword, which looks rather boring in comparison.--CasualGamer 07:12, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
The Sultans Knife is basically the same short sword Altair used.Kornflakes89 17:22, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
- Err... I dont think so oO The sultans knife has like a full curved guard handle, while the short sword of Altair hasn o guardhandle at all. -- D. Cello 00:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
- Agree 100% with Cello here, I mean just look at them.220.127.116.11 17:23, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
Sword of Altair
Well you all say about Altair's Sword was used in AC1 but I disagree :/
I think Altair's Sword as well as Altair's Armor in AC2 is made by Altair himself after he earned the Apple of Eden by Al Mualim. With the knowledge contained in the Apple of Eden Altair managed to build an Armour and a Sword, his Armour and Sword, that didn't apper in AC1. Of course that's only my opinion, i resulted in this conclusion after reading the Codex pages in AC2. So i think Altair built The Armor, The Sword, modified the blades and all after he had the Apple in his hands :/
Btw You should read the Codex's while playing AC for the first time..it's really great!! -- Flotis 21:12, January 16, 2011 (UTC) 21:09, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
You're right, thr sword of Altair in Ac2 had the brown hilt, called the common sword in Ac1, but his personal swrod and this were almsot the same, besides teh said hilt.In AcB, it's the completely silver one.However, the one in ac2 was destroyed, it could be possible(Thoug VERY unlikely) that they managed to get his silver one.FioraDaSforza 23:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
How does this work out?
How would The Sword of Altair still be in mint condition, though there is a 400 year gap between AC1 and AC2, it would be rusted and bent from Altairs use of it, not to metion his children, and so on. So mabye it's a copy or something? Warhead Prime 22:14, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know if an explanation is necessary. I mean his armor is indestructible through the use of the Apple, so maybe he used the Apple too for his sword, though this has never been mentioned in any of the games.-- Altaïr 22:53, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
I was thinkin about the fact that the Syrian blade is the last blade you get, and the fact that Altair's sword is the strongest in AC2 and i came to this conclusion: Since Altair made his armor out of special metal (if i recall correctly the apple led him to an asteroid that contained the metal and consequently told him how to use the raw metal to make materials), is it possible that he simply reforged the original Altair's blade into one that was stronger. I mean, the Altair's blade in AC2 is totally lighter (color wise) than Altair's sword in AC1. It would also make sense of the fact that while the Syrian sword degraded with time (indeed, being called the "old" Syrian blade in AC2), while Altair's sword seemed to be in as good condition as ever. Besides that, i would assume that Altair had a thing for the Eagle theme of the blade considering how prevalent eagles are to him and apparently his ancestors too. Anyway just a theory im just toying around on the wiki waiting for my copy of AC Brotherhood to FINALLY reach my GODDAMNED mailbox. I hope i dont pull a Cartman and freeze myself to wake up over 500 years later to giant beavers and the United Atheists League.Mrbear420 05:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Monterrigiony Blacksmith and Sword
>>> It is unknown why the sword is available from the Monteriggioni blacksmith, since the sword (being Altaïr's personal weapon) would be assumed to be available together with his armor once it was unlocked.
I have a version. If Altair died in his bed, sword could be blunt for many years (because of simple situation when oldman around 70-90 yo do not kill personally, just issue orders like Al Mutalim). Or on the conrary if Altair was a glib old fogy and died in battle, he could blunt his weapon on the last killed enemies (funny picture, just imagine, crooked Altair jumps around and groans, and complains about his old sick bones). In both cases I doubt someone of his younger apprentices would ever dare to take mentor's equipment for himself (rather then secure it like some sort of an order's relic, which was later hidden in Monterrigiony and finally claimed by Ezio).
Because of that circumstances newly-discovered sword was transferred to the person capable of sharpening it (the villa's smith is closest and most obvious choice). But that was also a rare weapon constructed with some unknown and high technology. So sharpening took some time and cost (like searching for means not to spoil the blade entirely while trying to process such persistent metal).
- That's kinda my idea too -- the blade is on the blacksmith cause it needed sharpening or restoraton or anything similar. But unfortunaly that's assumption, so we can't add that anywhere in the article. -- D. Cello 00:03, July 17, 2011 (UTC)