where does it say he is the leader of the mercenaries in florence? his first appeaance is in vinice, second in forli, and yes, he is leading mercenaries, but so is sforza, and ezio leads mercenaries all the time. finally thrid in florence, leading the people with paola, but La Volpe isnt there, so its not like "the faction leaders of florence" or anything. at Ezio's "swearing in" thing in the tower after the first fight with Borgia, Machiavelli is leading the finger-burning ceremony, making him seem more important than the others, i assumed he was the leader of all the italian assassins, cause obviously Ezio wasnt yet, why else would he only appear toward the end of the game, and then be so important (in both dlc things) once he showed up? Isnt mario leader of mercenaries? i know he doesnt live in florence, but he lives closeby, and he teaches you to fight, just as paola teaches you to blend and La Volpe teaches you free-running. CarloGrimaldi 01:10, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. It isn't. Feel free to remove it. -- D. Cello 03:58, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
Wait. nevermind. it is sourced in the article... my bad... sorry. :( CarloGrimaldi 08:00, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- O-okay. XD -- D. Cello 19:44, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Nope. It may have been before, but whatever it was has been removed. 18.104.22.168 22:55, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
Mixed Up Qoute
At the top of the page with the quote of Machivelli introducing himself to Ezio. As it reads now, it would mean that Ezio is introducing himself as Machiavelli...as Machiavelli.
I've tried to fix it myself, but the quote doesn't appear in the edit box, even when trying to edit the page in full.
Who did the math there... for him to have been 27 in 1488 he would have been born in 1461... which he wasn't. And then following that, for him to be 31 in 1500 is ridiculous. He'd have had to have been born on the 29th of february and had only 4 birthdays in 12 years. There's the maths.
A link back to the main Brotherhood page is not a source. Seriously, people? 22.214.171.124 22:51, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Since when is "seriously people" a question? And for the sake of simplicity, I just put the reference to AC: Brotherhood there because (guess what?) it appears in AC: Brotherhood! I know it's not out yet, but once the game comes out within less than a month, we're going to have to chance all the references to the interviews revealing bits of information on the game back to references to the game itself. -- Master Sima Yi 05:39, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't we just remove all the historical stuff from the trivia section? AC is about alternative events in history, a new take on how events could have went. It's about that historians may not be entirely right on what has happened in history and therefore, I think the historical things don't need to be here. -- Master Sima Yi 09:34, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
Anyone else a bit suspicious?
Machiavelli seems to be a lot more cynical, and speaks rather harshly to Ezio in the videos we've seen. Since he apparently loved the Borgias IRL, is it possible that he becomes a traitor? CryptoKiller 10:16, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
Well all can be a lie about the book, maybe the templars write it. But the way he speaks to Ezio is because Rodrigo is alive. Ezio have chance to kill the worst enemy of assassins, but dont.
In the trivia section it says historically Machiavelli was on good terms with Cesare; this is wrong, Machiavelli held the Borgia in contempt historically. This can especially be realised when he uses the Borgia as an example of failure in The Prince.
Does anyone know what inspired the costume he's regularily seen with in the game?
One more Image
Hey, guys, Machiavelli's page looks pretty good, what would really complete it would be an image for the Acquiring the Apple of Eden section. The image Im talking about is the one in the memory Play Along, when Niccolo first makes his appearance and tells Ezio that they are all Assassins. Thanks. Subject 12 Talk to me 14:01, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Awesome man, the resoulution is a bit low though. Guess it can't be helped. Subject 12 Talk to me 16:35, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. It was the best I could find. I will delete the other images now. -- ► Kaloneous ◄ ♣HelpDesk♣ 16:40, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
Ezio is Niccolo's senior by ten years and since he met him in 1488 (Ezio being 229) that makes Nicolo 19 with the voice of a 35 year old man ?
1) Sign your posts.
2) 229 years old?
3) There is no reason for that to be here. --The Leaping Eagle 16:27, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia says the prince was published in 1532, but http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1232/1232-h/1232-h.htm#link2H_4_0005 indicates it was written in 1513.Jasonnorthrup (talk) 23:10, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
Ancestor to Clay Kaczmarek?
I seem to remember in Brotherhood when riding with Machiavelli by the Colosseum, going into Eagle Vision, and seeing or hearing something about him being an ancestor to Subject 16. Does anyone else remember this? Evandrus Primæ (talk) 19:37, April 6, 2016 (UTC)
Ezio's Arrival in Rome
How can it be Machiavelli that found him on the road between Monteriggioni and Rome and brought him to the woman who tends his wounds? Doesn't Machiavelli flat out deny this himself when they meet outside the Mausoleo di Augusto, and wasn't he well on his way to Rome by the time the Borgia attack on Monteriggioni commenced?
Nevermind, I found out later that Machiavelli was lying because the script demanded he do so in order to make the subplot about La Volpe suspecting him of betraying the Assassin Order be able to exist at all.