Stalin doesn't necessarily have to be a Templar. He was shown as one of the 'tirants' who were killed by the Assassins. Tomás de Torquemada was also shown there, though in ACII: Discovery it was shown that he wasn't a Templar, just an enemy of the Assassins. Savonarola wasn't a Templar neither, though he was assassinated by Ezio. I personally think that we should remove the references to him and the other 'tirants' being Templars until this is confirmed. -- Master Sima Yi 14:35, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
I also think he wasn't Templar, but also he wasn't tiran so I don't sure he was killed by assassins. And also I want to note, that I live in Kharkiv, where, according to the Altaïr's map, one piece of eden is hidden. 3:] Искренне ваш, Бронебой Первый Всепоглощающий. 00:53 (GMT +2) 17 august 2010 http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Бронебой_Первый_Всепоглощающий
- It says so in the Glyphs. He was killed by Assassins. I don't remember which Glyph it was, but there were a lot of people alongside him such as Cleopatra, François Duvalier and John Wilkes Booth who were also killed by Assassins. -- Master Sima Yi 07:52, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
But why did they poisoned him? For what purpose? Искренне ваш, Бронебой Первый Всепоглощающий 09:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
Stalin was a pretty cruel leader, possessing much power in the Soviet Union and heading the Communist Party's decisions (the Soviet Union was a superpower). This is probably why he was assassinated. It may be possible that he was an ally of one of the Templars, seeing as there were at least three Pieces of Eden located in the Soviet Union (not just Russia), or even have considered joining the Templar order, he might have recieved lots of bribes from the Templars for the Pieces of Eden located in his country.
This is a little similar to the case of Moloch "the Bull". He is one man responsible for the cruelty of thousands, and a Templar ally (not necessarily a Templar). BleedingEffect 19:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed he was, I love him to death as a cold-blooded dictator, but he was certainly very tyrannical to most. --Piratehunter (Talk•Contribs) 19:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
He wasn't cruel, and wasn't idiot to sell too powerfull artifacts to the templars. I think two PoE's are still hidden somewhere in kremlin. Third is still in Kharkiv, and it explains why the CIA (being under templars control) had bribed Victor Yuschenko to begin the 2004 "orange revolution" to gain control over Ukrain and get the PoE. Бронебой Первый Всепоглощающий 15:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, again, we all have a right to our opinion. I personally saw him as a cruel individual; or better yet, not so much cruel, but a bit abusive, and tyrannical. But again, as I said, I love Stalin to death, he was the perfekt example of a Dictatorship done correctly. That added to my belief in Marxism, makes him an actually pretty good guy in my opinion. I still prefer the preachings of Lenin of course, but that is for another time :P --Piratehunter (Talk•Contribs) 16:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
That is clother to the truth. Бронебой Первый Всепоглощающий 17:13, August 30, 2010 (UTC) m
Your certainly right about him being a master dictator. After Lenin died, Stalin was part of a triumvirate consisting of himself Lev Kamenev and Grigori Zinoviev. However, Stalin wanted to rule by himself, so he packed the party with his own supporters and kicked Kamenev and Zinoviev out of office. They were executed during the purges of the 1930s when millions of Stalin's opponents perished. One of these was Lev Trotsky, the organiser of the Red Army. He was banished from the USSR and assassinated in 1940 in Mexico City. Some of Stalin's opponents were said to be made up, to help him spread fear across his country. Now that is how you take control! For that, I kinda like him. BleedingEffect 19:04, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
Do you remember how was Trotskiy assassinated? With an ice axe. Бронебой Первый Всепоглощающий 21:25, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
What a cold way to die. BleedingEffect 18:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
The Fall and Death
I haven't read The Fall yet, is there any mention of him? If he is a Templar, it could explain how the Assassins lose control of the revolution, the Templars plant him there.
And Stalin was indeed assassinated in real life. Lavrentiy Beria poisoned him, likely with warfarin, and ordered the doctors to not help him, which was very easy given Stalin's irrational paraonoia against doctors at that time. Modern forensic tech did find warfarin in Stalin's system, and Beria is said to have even said something along the lines of "I killed him" to trusted associates. Darth Something 20:01, December 11, 2011 (UTC)