Talk:Animus

Animus
is it possible to use the animus to view genetic memory of using the animus to view genetic memory of using the animus?Blix1ms0ns 19:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC

is it possible to view the genetic memory of somebody who received a blood donation using the animus?Blix1ms0ns 19:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, the memory is genetic, DNA, genes, not bloody. -- D. Cello 02:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

well what i meant was "what if there was gene-carrying cell such as white blood cells came withthe transfusion or a white blood cell transfusion?"Blix1ms0ns 19:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I tought the first one was a writing error XD Probably yes, since it's a memory anyway. And no, hite cells don't carry genes. The blood is used to transport substances throughout the body. The genes are located in DNA, RNA and cromossomes, which itself are used to create cells and the body and charactheristics as a whole. The mmory is sotred in the genetic code, and small parts of this code are used to create cells. So no, blood don't has anything to do to genes. -- D. Cello 23:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC) well what about some sort of genetic transfusion, can you access those memoryBlix1ms0ns 23:36, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Your genes are a small core inside your cells located on your spine. It is a recipe for your bofy to function. There is no need or means to do a gentic transfusion. -- D. Cello 00:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, every cell in a body (exempting RBC's (Red Blood Cells)) contain DNA and RNA. The activation of each individual "set" of nucleic acids in a portion of DNA determine what the cell does (exempting RBC's, which I do not want to explain right now). Because the RBC's do not contain the genetic material, the blood transplant would not affect the memory. And genetic transfusion is possible, as they have "made" bacteria that produce insulin for diabetics by putting new genes into the bacteria. However they would not attempt this on a human.


 * --The Animus (User-name, not the machine)

Therefore specific genetic memorie segments via genetic transfusion would be impossible. Sign you posts with ~ -- D. Cello 05:21, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly! And thanks for the tip =D


 * The Animus 22:03, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Now, can we use some other person's gene containing cells to trick the animus?Blix1ms0ns 18:44, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Theoretically yes, as the genes are what is required, but which cells the Animus uses would have to be taken into account. However in reference to the blood part of the talk: Doesn't Rebecca Crane insert an IV-type device into Desmond's arm? How does the device read the genes then?
 * The Animus 00:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

The first Animus didn't have anything to be inserted, just a line of sensors in the spine region. How he read it then? Btw, don't forget: sign your posts. -- D. Cello 03:15, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whoops, fixed it. And I mean "Baby" or the Animus 2.0. Desmond gets that IV-like device in his arm, and I was wondering how that worked.


 * The Animus 00:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC) Didn't forget that time.

Yah, I got it. What I meant it's that the first animus too gives no hint as how it access the user's genes, since there is no physical intrusive method. Maybe small unhurtful needles like Dr. Octupus arms =P You have any theories? -- D. Cello 02:00, February 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, one. The Glyphs discuss a sort of "neuron system" that Abstergo worked with. Using some form of manipulation of the brain and spinal chord, it could be possible that Abstergo discovered how to "read" the genetic memories, however there is little support for this--all speculation. It might be that more information will be released about this in the third Assassin's Creed, but I think it is doubtful because it really doesn't pertain to the plot, you know?


 * The Animus 01:32, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

In Assassins Creed Brotherhood, the multiplayer mode will be Templars training in the Animus 1.0, the Animus from AC1 with ice-blue cloudy background. In the multiplayer will the same Animus be used because in the multiplayer trailer the Animus 1.0 looks to be used, but the environment loads up with the same white colour from the Animus 2.0, Animus from AC2. Perhaps Abstergo hacked into Assassin hideout and stole Animus 2.0 software but would this be compatible with Animus 1.0? I don't know. This is starting to confuse me so can someone answer please? BleedingEffect 12:16, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * They use the otignal Animus hardware, but the 1.28 thing refers to the software. Maybe they just upgraded their program. -- D. Cello 14:44, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Nature of Controlling the Animus
Does the Animus allow the user (in the ACII series, Desmond) to control a created "virtual body" inside the memory, or is it just a video-recall of the memories of the ancestor. I wonder this because the Animus is stated to have "video game controls," and do not see how it could be possible to have a video-recall if the "memory" is different every time the memory is played. Can anyone shed some light on this? In turn I shall qualify (ie. find support for and against) any arguments made. Thanks =D


 * The Animus 22:12, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's stated that it's like a videogame, it's manually relieved, and not watched. I believe it's something like a highway. You can do whatever you like as long as you stay within the boundaries (figurativelly speaking). -- D. Cello 03:13, February 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're right, it's a puppeteering program, it's stated. But there are a few things that don't support that at all--for instance, in the vault, Minerva turns her head away from Ezio to address the camera, as if Desmond's watching it like a movie, over Ezio's shoulder. AgentValentine 01:38, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

It could be that Desmond sees the events in the 3rd person POV, which would explain the "contention" cam and how Ezio and Altair would know when it is safe to come out of hiding and other stuff like that.

Sounds like some ancestors might have very limited choices. Blix1ms0ns 23:58, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Translation
Rebecca says that the translator is glitchy, that's why we get italian phrases in dialogs.

But what of italian version of the game, where all the dialogs are fully in italian? What does Rebecca say instead?

damn, always forget to leave the sig.--44 Magnum 21:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I gotta ask this! In Assassins Creed 1, Lucy says that the Animus is auto-translating the Arabic language, answering Desmond's question about it. However, in Assassisn Creed 2, when she forces Desmond to enter the Animus to watch the scene about Ezio's death, Italian dialogs can be heard, as well as Giovanni's speech to Ezio. Why is that???

Abstergos animus is diffrent and probably has a better translater than the animus 2.0 LaVolpesBite 11:33, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Meaning
Just an interesting note that the root of animus (anim) means mind. this makes sense because of what the animus allows you to do. The word animus, oh the other hand, has two meanings, intent & hatred. I've never actually heard someone use it outside of the context of ac but it's in an old textbook of mine. The Eagle1701 23:44, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Can somebody please tell me where it was said that the Animus technology came from Those Who Came Before?98.192.42.30 07:31, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Assassin's Creed II, the article actually gives you the source of that information so you don't have to post question like this on the talk page. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 12:41, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what the talk page is for, Jasca. Easy. Now he knows, next time he'll check sources first. -- D. Cello 14:17, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I got that, thank you. I suppose I should have been more specific: where in Assassin's Creed II? 98.192.42.30 09:13, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still waiting for an answer, guys. When and where in AC1/AC2 is it stated that it came from Those Who Came Before? 98.192.42.30 19:40, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to go against your ancestor's belief after using the animus?
'''Is it possible to go against your ancestor's belief after using the animus? Ex: ancestor is very religious decendant is atheist. Later decendant use the animus. Will the decendant stay atheist?'''

Another question: Can the bleeding effect change what that person believe? Blix1ms0ns 02:17, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

First Q: Yes. Second Q: Unsure. I don't think you fully understand how the Animus works. Religion and atheism are beliefs (or lack of), the Animus can't control that, if the descendant decides to change their mind after using the Animus, that's fine, the Animus has nothing to do with it. I'm not sure if I fully understand your second question, but I'll try. The Bleeding Effect has given Desmond eagle vision, skills in combat, and the ability to free-run like Ezio and Altaïr, but he's not "forced" to use them, so I don't see a way of the descendants beliefs being "forced" to change because of the BE either. On the other hand, the BE, can aslo change a person mentally (though for the worse), if that includes their beliefs (which is kind off irrelevant because the mental changes effect behaviour, more than beliefs), well then the answer is Yes. Hope that answers your questions. --  ’ R BlaiddDdraig  08:41, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Who is the inventor of the animus?
Who is the inventor of the animus?

Is it a "gift" from the apple?Blix1ms0ns 16:14, March 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Please, read the damn article. It tells you right at the very beginning of the main body. And sign your posts. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 16:37, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * So how did Abstergo got the animus? How did the assassins got the blueprint to upgrade upon?Blix1ms0ns 16:14, March 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * By using the POE idiotaAssassin of persia 11:09, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * By using the POE idiotaAssassin of persia 11:09, July 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * By using the POE idiotaAssassin of persia 11:09, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Animus 2.03
Don't know how many of you have spotted this, but just saw this at the end of the ACR E3 demo gameplay. Should we add this to the article, or just wait till more info is known... Vatsa 15:20, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * We already knew about this from the first teaser image. The only thing we know is that there is an Animus 2.03 software version, that's all. Not enough to warrant any additions to the article just yet. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 15:59, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Everything has already been revealed
 * http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/7011084929
 * --Rapnoize
 * Was it at 2.03 already in brotherhood? or 2.02?70.70.13.203 01:49, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was at 2.0 in Brotherhood. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 12:23, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was at 2.0 in Brotherhood. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 12:23, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Animus 3.0
Oh no, he took my Animus 3.0 my gods I did all that for nothing T.T (ps: I'm Not use Google Traduction) Inconnu-dark 16:56, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Wie bitte?Einsteinium99 04:28, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Animus can provide immortality?
16's mind is trapped in the Animus (something like saved on the hard drive) and he's still conscious, with all his knowledge and memories preserved. He stated that he may be able to find a new body if he went into the Synch Nexus with Desmond. So, it's possible to live to an old age, save your personality into the device and "infect" another person's body (and overrun his memory) and repeat the process any number of times you want. It will not provide you an eternal body, but eternal "soul". Xeoxer 19:19, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps, but it is not likely that transferring your mind into another body is a smooth process. Subsequently, S16 might be able to do it once, maybe twice if he's lucky, but I doubt his mind would be able to take that sort of stress multiple times. Also, the new host's brain would probably reject the new mind and possibly turn him into a vegetable.Einsteinium99 04:31, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Showing an Ancestor's Birth to Death
I was wondering why can't they make the Animus show the Ancestor's life to death. I mean they could use the excuse the people of the First Civilization since their technology are way beyond the realm of men. --Cococrash11 19:51, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * You mean birth to death. And for the God-knows-how-many-th time, the death of an ancestor can't be relived via genetic memory. Only the memories up until the point where the ancestor's child is conceived can be viewed; the memories are passed into the DNA of the child, who passes them on again in their child andsoforth. You can't conceive children after death. -- Master Sima Yi 19:57, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Who said anything about after death I meant when they died the memory ends. This is Science fiction viewing an ancestor's memories through DNA is already impossible to begin with except in science fiction.

So how hard is it to make Those Who Came Before who are super intelligent to make the Animus show a memories from birth to death? I mean some of them knows Desmond and they somehow know the future. Maybe to a regular human in the 21st century in Assassin's Creed Universe its impossible but maybe to Minerva's people its possible. --Cococrash11 21:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am listing canon lore. I'm not deciding what is possible and what isn't. If you pay attention to the introduction of the first Assassin's Creed, you will see that it all actually makes sense... -- Master Sima Yi 21:50, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

I know that I was just wondering why they didn't do what I just said? It does make sense but using Minerva's people they can make my idea make sense. I mean who knows in Assassin's Creed I it said that but maybe in Assassin's Creed III it will touch upon it further. I guess we had to wait to find out. --Cococrash11 22:03, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * As Sima said, the Animus is incapable of projecting the genetic memories of an individual beyond the conception of the next ancestor in the chain. Subsequently, you cannot see an ancestor's death through their own genetic memories. Their is no possible way for genetic memories to pass on after the ancestor has been born, and even if such a thing reading genetic memories was possible in real life, that particular point would still be impossible. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 03:53, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

How do you explain the Memory Seals? It show Altair's death and they are the basis of the Animus. Those Who Come Before are super intelligent people and they made a lot of advance technology its possible. Maybe in Assassin's Creed III the Animus 3.0 might show an ancestor birth to death or something else. --Cococrash11 07:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

They explain themselves, they are Memory Seals, seals which are capable of having Memories imprinted into/onto them. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but as Sima and Jasca have said, this is the Animus, not the Seals. The Animus is incapable of showing an Ancestor's memories after the point of the conception of the next Ancestor in line. Master Decoder 08:07, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Never say never maybe the Animus 3.0 might show something different. All I'm saying is to wait for Assassin's Creed III to come out and see what the Animus 3.0 can do. --Cococrash11 08:33, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, no and no. The Animus and the Seals are completely different. The Seals are a method of recording memories, whereas the Animus is more akin to a playback device. There is nothing to suggest the Animus is based off of the Memory Seals technology. The Animis technology will never show an ancestor's death; I suggest you stop arguing the point. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 16:51, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Coco why don't you understand? It is not lack of tech that stops the memories from being seen. It CANNOT be seen no matter how advanced you are. When the child is concieved all the menories from his father's birth until sex are passed on, but no further than that. When this child grows up he passes his own memories and his father's recorded memories to his child and so on. Memory Seals are different, they are like CDs that hold recordings of a person's mempries, so there are no restrictions for passing these meories. IlMualim 17:17, March 19, 2012 (UTC)