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de Sable/de Sablé
Hey Jasca

About the Robert de Sable article. Throughout the entirety of Assassin's Creed, his name is pronounced as "de Sable", which, in English, means "of sand". Apparently (I didn't know this), he is based on the historical figure Robert de Sablé, with surname referring to his birthplace "of Sablé". I am now firing up the game to check if his surname is spelled anywhere. I propose you change back his surname to "de Sable", rather than "de Sablé", because it is unnecessarily confusing, and add it in the Trivia section or something.

Thanks for reading. 13:11, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * With respect, I won't be doing that. His name is Robert de Sablé ("of Sablé"), because he held lorship over the region of Sablé-sur-Sarthe in Anjou, France. Also, even if the game uses the spelling "Sable", the wiki use native spellings of names for its articles; e.g. Jeanne d'Arc. -- 14:05, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is not about native spelling, this is about misspelling. For some reason or other, Ubisoft made a mistake during their research, turning "Robert de Sablé" into "Robert de Sable", and having every character subsequently pronounce "sable" like the French word for sand, rather than the French commune. Since the Wiki is primarily based on the game, I believe "de Sable" takes precedence over "de Sablé". Any person with some bare knowledge of French that has played Assassin's Creed would be confused if his article (which is still title "Robert de Sable" btw). I still support this being relegated to Trivia. What does the encylopedia say on him anyway? Is he from the region Sablé-sur-Sarthe like his historical counterpart?  14:15, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * My question to you is; why would he be called Robert of Sand? Also, the only reason the article is still spelt "de Sable" is due to the page move option being locked. -- 14:36, September 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is not about the why, since it's pretty obviously a mistake. This is about clarity and consistency. He is referred to as "Robert de Sable" in every instance of canon within the series (Assassin's Creed, the Encyclopedia, The Secret Crusade), so his article should reflect that. In fact, the only source supporting "Robert de Sablé" is Wikipedia, which stands outside the series as a whole, and should come second to any data on the game. Again, we should relegate this to Trivia, where we explain that Robert de Sable is based on the historical figure Robert de Sablé. 14:49, September 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree to Crook's option. What is in the game, should be in the wiki. Joan of Arc's native name may be Jeann'deArk but in my point of view, I think it is like that because either it is corrected somewhere in any game or she is a minor character, whereas Robert de Sable is not. Edward Thatch (I know his name is modified) explains in trivia section his actual historical counterpart's name, and so should Robert's article. Altaïr Skywalker 47 (talk) 15:19, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

John de Lancie
Bro, I edited then the old version of Nesty in John's page to inform you...

Cheers,

AgentG231  The Action Center 10:45, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Say what? -- 10:48, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Concerning the accomplishments page, sorry, I just copy-pasted the templates from Bloodlines, I didn't know it would include the "good article" category. 83.108.84.147 11:06, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Edward James
As far as I can tell, we don't add the middle name in the default sort on any other articles. 08:20, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. We probably should, but fair enough. -- 08:25, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hello,

I am sorry to ask you this personaly but nobody is answering back to my post..

I have a doubt that is probably too simple, since i didnt find any answer to it online.

I have to choose between buying AC 3 for 30€ and AC 3 + Hidden Secrets, Battle Hardened and Tyranny of George Washington for 50€.

My main question is - are the DLC free? How much do the extra missions cost if i download them if i buy the simple AC3?

Thank you very much

Kalip26 (talk) 15:45, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Jennifer Scott
Where in the game is it mentioned her surname as "Scott-Kenway"? 11:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ugh, my bad. It was Caroline he was referring too, not Jennifer. -- 11:12, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Heads-up
If you'd just waited, I was planning to move the page myself to auto-create a redirect when my internet connection was acting up once again. Your edit summaries have been particularly infuriating these past few weeks as for some reason you have picked up your old attitude once again. It's been frustrating to me and to several other people as well, and I'm not going to warn you about it again. This is not a discussion, but a heads up. If you can't function in a community by not annoying others with your attitude, don't be part of one. -- 17:32, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Queen Anne's Revenge
If you're working on a frigate page, fine. But England wasn't renamed at all, if that's what you mean; it was still England. And "slaver ship" is incorrect, as that would mean it was the ship of a slaver, which, to my knowledge, it wasn't. nucl3arsnake  (  talk  ) 14:06, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * "The Kingdom of Great Britain was a sovereign state in north-west Europe that existed from 1 May 1707 to 31 December 1800. The state came into being with the union of the kingdoms of Scotland and England (which included Wales)"; 1710 is after 1707. Also, Concord was redesigned before Thatch's captaincy to hold slaves. -- 14:15, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia page on begs to differ. And just because it held slaves doesn't mean the captain / owner of the ship was a slaver, and regardless of that, "slaver ship" is incorrect; I have heard of a "" before, however.  nucl3arsnake  (  talk  ) 14:22, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Behaviour
Your behaviour is a talk in the IRC. Be warned that if your behaviour continues, and Sima gets more complaints via PM, you will be permabanned. Believe me. You don't want to be banned, your contributions are valuable, much like any, but still. good day :) 202.164.150.195 14:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Whilst I appreciate your alerting me to the talk about me, I have no idea who you are, and it would go some if you let me know. Frankly, if people talk about me or not is not my concern or worry; people are always going to dislike me, I came to terms with that years ago. -- 16:00, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Who am I is not the point here. You're warned and you're on thin ice. At least that's what I heard. Your disregard for Sima's page, which you said as 'fanon,' when according to Brahman article, was released was pointless. Also, that other page which you put in the delete template because of 'third party video' was too. Think: ACIV has been released and any admin may delete it if it has been proved that not exists, I know, you're abiding by strictly to wiki policies by preventing speculation, but let me tell you, it is okay a little. Also, a third party video can't be 'non-canon,' just check Walkthroughs and the like. Anyway, a quote on the IRC goes by like this "Jasca's stick up his ass 1.5 times today" I'm not gonna say who said that, since that'd be offensive. So please, don't get banned. You don't deserve it. Good day. 202.164.150.195 17:09, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Skywalker, get out. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  17:11, November 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, just telling me someone said it isn't offensive. Please leave Skywalker. -- 17:15, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

IRC
I saw you dropped by the IRC while I was away; my nick is always online, but I am available now. I'll be busy with some other things but that should not be a bother. -- 16:29, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Editing for structure and flow
Hello! You seem to be a fellow in the know, and as I was not able to find an answer to this question in the available policy documents, I thought I might ask you.

Is there a standard on editing for structure/flow on the AC Wiki? (i.e. changing a word if it is repeated more than once in a short amount of time, breaking up long sentences, etc.) These kind of edits have been fine (and sometimes encouraged) at other wikis I have worked on, but on the AC wiki I've had some edits of this nature reversed because they did not specifically add new content and were referred to as "rephrasing." Is there a policy on this? I want to make sure that any edits I do are in keeping with the wiki's standards.

Molotov.cockroach (talk) 16:28, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Personally, I agree with any attempts to limit repetition in sentences, and to break up overly-long and grammatically incorrect sentences, but clearly (according to your post) there are individuals here who feel that your edits do not constitute what they would consider constructive.


 * Rephrasing is not, in itself, a reason for an edit to be reverted (nor is not adding new content), and I would strongly recommend that if such an edit is reverted again, you ask the reverting user on their talk page as to their reasons for doing so. I often find that while the information we need is in the article, it is sometimes poorly written, and so it would be negligence for me to ignore it. If they are insistent that your edit remains off the article, without providing what you consider to be a satisfactory reason, please don't hesitate to call someone else in for a third opinion.


 * EDIT: Having had a quick glance through your contributions, I spotted the reversion you was talking about; I'm afraid that the individual that reverted your edit is well-known to myself, and others, for reasons such as this. I'll be leaving a message on their talk page shortly. That said, I would still recommend following the advice I have posted above. -- 17:11, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I appreciate the information. Also, I apologize if I came off as complaining--I just want to make sure that if I feel like being bull-headed about a structural edit, I'm not violating wiki rules in doing so. :) That sounds like a good way to proceed, so I will follow your advice going forward. Thanks!
 * Molotov.cockroach (talk) 18:24, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * My comment about complaints was directed at you, you did the right thing. No problemo. -- 09:13, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

No title
WHY DID YOU EDIT MY PAGE?Samkenway1 (talk) 16:56, November 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Stop foaming. The only pages that are 'yours' are your profile, talkpage and any sandboxes you make. Everything else is public and up for others to edit meaningfully. That's the whole point of a wiki. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  16:58, November 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * STAR TREK IS BETTER THAN STAR WARSSamkenway1 (talk) 16:58, November 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * And that doesn't have anything to do with this conversation. Your capslock is also broken. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  16:59, November 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're also incorrect; Star Wars is far superior. -- 17:25, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

sorry?
 * Well, that wasn't the fastest ban I've seen, but it was pretty damn close. -- 18:26, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Edward Thatch edit
My reason for reverting is because we don't copy the database entries word-for-word into the articles. That's bad form, and considered plagiarism. 18:30, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * fair enough, and quite right. As you've probably noticed, I've since managed to include the necessary information as part of a wider addition to the article. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 19:03, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Page
You have no right to tell anyone what they are supposed to feel and I'm not going to listen to someone like you. I know all that and already accept it without you telling me. Beside I don't expect anyone to understand. --Cococrash11 (talk) 20:50, November 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have every right to tell somebody what is expected of them when they contribute to the Wiki. Having a hissy fit and making false claims is not something individuals here appreciate. 'Someone like me'? What exactly am I like, then?


 * The fact that my reply to your message spurred you to post such an emotional, hissy fit (again), response on my talk page shows that, clearly, you do need somebody to tell you what is expected of you. I expect you to understand that. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:52, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Typical. --Cococrash11 (talk) 21:33, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm typical? --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 22:09, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Punctuation in quotes clarification
I know this is a small thing, but I wanted to get clarification on it for future edits.

Does this wiki use the British English or American English standard of punctuation use? The American standard says that periods and commas go inside quotations even if they're not part of the quote, versus the British standard, which is the opposite. I've got a couple of sources for reference. I'm happy to abide by either, but it would be good to know which we use.

Molotov.cockroach (talk) 17:59, December 4, 2013 (UTC)