Talk:Timeline

Federico Auditore da Firenze
All of his links were broken, linking to a certain "Frederico" I've not heard of. Went through and fixed them, linking them to his page and correcting the spelling of his name. AgentValentine 05:26, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Contradictions
This is the timeline of the Assassin's Creed universe, no? If so then shouldn't we keep the history of this timeline with only what happens in the AC games, or at least not insert historical information that contradicts with information related to AC. For example there are two dates of when Robert De Sable dies, the AC death and his actual historical death. Shouldn't we only put the death in that happened in the AC wiki to avoid such contradictions? -- Altaïr 15:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely right, Al. -- D. Cello 15:31, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of certain facts
This timeline is getting really big. One thing I think is totally irrelevant if for example when Xerxes is born. I don't think that's important to know. The most important date to know is when he was killed, cause this is about the assassin who killed him, not the one who is killed necessarily. If the character appeared in one of the games, that's another story. -- Altaïr 21:53, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * People are editing this thing so much because of Badges x.x I agree, Al. Only relevant stuff should be kept. -- D. Cello 20:55, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should keep in account how big this list could become. I mean how are we going to chose what's important or not. You saw me removing that Leo painted the Mona Lisa. But one day I removed many historical facts of Leo's life. Other paintings. Leo who had to appear before court. Other facts which don't appear or are not even metionned in ACII. And there are many historical figures where we could add facts from which we don't even see or hear about. Where do we pull the line, if we allow these things to be added? -- Altaïr 04:12, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Centuries
Another thing I had in mind is changing the content list. I think we should add centuries and make them into categories for in the contents, so that the list isn't so long and is easier to browse into. -- Altaïr 22 02, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Centuries as two equals (==) ,years as three (===) and dates as four (====). -- D. Cello 20:56, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

First Disaster
What is that? -- D. Cello 02:08, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

It is referring to what Minerva mentioned at the end of ACII. She said that, with their time occupied fighting the Humans, THCB failed to realize that something bad was about to happen. And so, they didn't have time to protect the planet before, what is presumed to be a solar flare, killed off all but a few of both species. But, wit their numbers too low, THCB died off, with Humans taking over as sole "owners" of Earth. A.  J.  two  02:15, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah, I remember that now (thanks AJ). We should create a page about it then. -- D. Cello 02:31, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * done. At least a stub for expansion. A.  J.   two  03:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Changing Before Christ and Anno Domini
I've mentioned this before, but does anyone agree with me about changing the timeline abrivations to BCE and CE? I just personally think it would be more appropriate since the abriviation BCE is used in "the Truth" video. Lunatic  Enlighten Me 17:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hidden blade - Desmond
Hey, doesnt Desmond receive the hidden blade on the 9th September 2012?

Ezio27 04:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Irrelevant. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Leonardo joining the Borgia
Leonardo has already joined the Borgia by 1499/1500, so i changed it from 1501 to 1499. (Gameplay video) Cesare to one of his accomplice, "Give me the gun his friend fashioned for us.."

(Vatsa1708 10:21, November 16, 2010 (UTC))

Ezio's Healing 1499
Niccolo Machiavelli doesn't nurse Ezio. He believes Ezio to be killed during the villa attack. (Vatsa1708 10:33, November 16, 2010 (UTC))


 * Edit: Niccolo later reveals that he brought Ezio to Rome..

(Vatsa1708 16:21, November 18, 2010 (UTC))


 * Irrelevant. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

10th October 2012
The date Desmond, Lucy et al went to Il Colosseo shouldn't be listed under Unknown Date, Lucy says the date is 10th October, 72 days before the planned launch of the Eye Abstergo. JohnMoore 00:19, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Interbreeding
Shouldn't the interbreeding start before the first disaster and the theft of the apple by Adam and Eve? Cause i always thought Adam and Eve were the first result of interbreeding. How could they steal the apple if it didn't affect them less than other humans?EXistenZ! 10:06, January 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You make a good point here but there are two possibilities I see for this:

They [Adam and Eve] 'evolved' either due to gradual immunisation to the POEs controlling powers, or Adam and Eve may simply have been 'made' wrong by TWCB getting sloppy, Not hard to imagine considering they were lazy enough to create Humans in the first place to do their work for them as tools...

Subject AMDR 15:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah i always thought that Adam and eve were results of interbreeding, like one of TWCB had a ride with a human slave. Cause many ancient myths talk about gods and humans having intercourse, with sometimes demi-gods as a result (herakles being the most famous). And then they rebelled against their creators (a bit like how Prometheus stole the fire from the Gods) But it's true, we don't actually know when the interbreeding began. EXistenZ! 20:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Contents
Isin't there any way to remove the serial numbers from the contents. Or put a period after them. They almost seem to be a part of the dates. Like 6 6th Century be made to 6. 6th Century etc.

Editing the AC Timeline
How are we to edit this timeline if it's locked? (There are some small grammar/style errors I'd like to fix, but it appears I can't.) Danielhonigman 20:45, January 23, 2011 (UTC)Daniel


 * It's only locked for new and unregistered contributors. So either check your internet browser or get yourself of the imaginary "new users list". -- Master Sima Yi 09:22, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Giovanni Borgia
How can Giovanni Borgia have been born before Savonarola was murdered, since when Perotto arrived at the Vatican, the Pope received a message saying that Girolamo had been assassinated in Florence, and only after a time Perotto had a romance with Lucrezia. Zac Skywalker 11:58, January 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Either the developers made a mistake or Giovanni's birth date differs in the AC universe. But in history, Giovanni Borgia was born in March 1498 and Savonarola was executed on 23 May 1498. -- Master Sima Yi 14:25, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

"Unfortunate Secretary"
Was reading up on the Timeline page and then the page on Daniel Cross... someone had updated on the recent comic on Daniel Cross going to Abstergo and killing an "unfortunate secretary"... I'm assuming that might be Leila Marino? His events on the Timeline don't have a specific date, so I'm assuming that the murder of the Mentor up to Daniel's return to Abstergo was during 2007, that Leila was the secretary he killed before they put him back into the Animus (on accident? or maybe not, since Warren implied that Lucy was going to end up like her if she kept meddling)

Just a thought, from an avid reader. 69.112.8.43 13:53, March 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Daniel does not kill any such person. Daniel returned to Abstergo in 2000. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Two Maliks?
Am I reading it wrong or missing something because Malik Al-Sayf is written but underneth it, it says Malik A-Sayf. Both links lead to Malik Al-Sayf. which one is the correct date and which one is the correct spelling? Girlaloud05 09:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably just a typo... Mr. Cujo 16:49, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Robert de Sable's assassination
It ocurred before Al Mualim's death, before Altair conceiving a child and before Altair finishing the Codex. Obvious reason: We played Robert De Sable's assassination, which we couldn't have if Altair had already had a child. Changing it now. AlexArkham 19:58, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why templates?
Do we have to use templates to define the tabber contents? It makes eidting the single page cumbersome. Smoke3723 23:46, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Barack Obama
Is Obama a Templar or an assassin I'd really like to find that out? If any body wants to know I'm Le Vulpe (too lazy to sign in)


 * I dont see Obama being an Assassin. some of the laws he has tried to pass would dictate free rights, somthing the Assassins stive for.


 * I disagree. I see Obama as being initially supported by the Assassins over McCain, what with his promise to investigate the Templar Bush... but then it turned out he was a covert Templar, thus his continuing the Osama Bin Laden affair... and eventually allows a nation-wide hunt for assassins through his sudden jump in national security.108.13.198.58 07:54, March 10, 2012 (UTC) Lord Coratus


 * Important thing to note is that any currently living person or real person that lived in the later half of the 20th century is neither an Assassin or Templar. The Templars manipulated people, but that's all they were, puppets. George W. Bush was a Templar puppet, as revealed in The Fall and the Brotherhood Clusters. James Morse's e-mail on abstergoindustries.com shows that Warren had a meeting in the Blair House, a presidential residence, in December 2010, when Obama already was the President. So Obama was definitely influenced by Abstergo and the Templars, but he most likely isn't aware of the Templars' existence. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sima's right, and I definitely think the Templars are trying to keep him in Presidency since there's been speculation that his opposition Ron Paul is going through election fraud. Arcemz  Something on your mind? 07:16, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Brotherhood - Unknown Dates
Don't we know the dates corresponding to the time Desmond spent reliving Ezio's memories of Rome via the e-mails? The e-mails in Brotherhood are dated from September 29th-October 9th, 2012 and are recieved throughout the period that the Assassins spend in the Sanctuary. GuruGuru214 07:09, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

list of modern day assassins and Templar's
i think there need's to be a few more modern day people on the list of assassins and templars.

Templars:
 * Muammar gaddafi
 * Barack Obama
 * Al Gore
 * Steven Hawking

Assassins
 * Ron Paul
 * Pat Tillman (the football player who died in iraq)
 * Ernest Hemingway (July 21, 1899 – July 2, 1961)

i hope to add to this list after more research


 * Except that The Fall tells us that Gore was an ally to the Assassins. He lost the election to Bush, the Templar puppet, because of the Mentor's death in 2000 -- Vaxis Dec 19 2.58AM


 * Do you honestly think we are gonna add speculation to this page? -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Tell them Sima. Everything Vaxis just said seems like speculation. If you just glance at his post it reads: Democrats and Dictators = Templars & Republicans and Revered People = Assassins
 * and that is without a doubt false. plus they are neither... we don't have to label everyone assassin or templar, there is a neutral zone. Solo assassin 00:26, June 19, 2012 (UTC)

someone push the wrong button?
"October 10th marks 62 days until the satellite launch, making a significant to the number 72. " WRONG, that would be 72 days excatly since there's 31 days in October, 30 in November and the launch is on the 21st. (or in Math terms 31+30+11=72) -71.202.72.88 00:31, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Minor error
It says that CIA driver William Greer used the fourth apple... incorrect. He was under the influence of the second apple. And Oswald used the first apple to make an illusion. Remember the fourth apple seemingly disappears after Hitler is assassinated. -- Vaxis Dec 20 2011 2:23 AM


 * I'm not finished yet... -- Master Sima Yi 08:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Carlo Grimaldi
Just thought I'd point out that in the 1485 section, Carlo Grimaldi's name is spelled wrong, making a link broken. I can't fix it since the page is locked, so can whoever can edit it please fix it. Howling Snail 11:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Change the Timeline page back to the what it was before

I Think that we should change the Timeline page but to the way it was before because there is a lot of information that is missing that was there like what Ezio did in Rome between 1500 - 1503 and also and lot of information on other Assassin Creed related events what do you guys think.

Rukia202 09:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for not noticing the "WORKING revamp" template up top... I am still working on it. Sorry that it's taking so long, but I will make sure that all available information will be on it when I am done. -- Master Sima Yi 10:09, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Vieri De' Pazzi
Despite the portrait of Vieri de' Pazzi saying that he died in 1477, ther DNA folder and everything else says that he died in 1478. Howling Snail 20:31, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Er... what? -- Master Sima Yi 20:35, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think they meant that you listed Vieri's death under 1477, while most sources state that it was in 1478.
 * I came here for just this purpose, hence the lack of a new section.
 * Also, do you think we could use tabber codes to help navigation? Or is there a better way? 21:05, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Conflicting sources on that as well, but Encyclopedia says 1478. -- 21:14, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Worng year
the Year for the American Revolution started in 1775 not 1763 as is stated in the timeline page Assassin80 01:20, April 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I concur. The French and Indian War ended in 1763. The opening shots of the American Revolution were in 1775. Can a higher-ranking editor please make the fix? AOHistSupport 20:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Master Sima Yi! AOHistSupport 21:08, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal - permanent lock
Seeing as people seem to be rather fond of adding their own fiction, speculation and assumption to this page, and that they never source their information, and continuously write everything in present tense while the entire article is in past tense, I would like to propose a permanent lock on this page. This may not be in line with "a database that everyone can edit," but the way it is right now is doing more harm than good. When people actually notice that something is wrong, they tend to mention it here on the talk page rather than actually changing it. Personally I think it would save a lot of work undoing all these bad edits for us if we simply lock the page. I'm already personally making sure the page is updated with any new information that is released, or anything else that needs to be changed. If somebody notices an error, an admin can be notified to make the change. I think an exception can easily be made for this page, and I find it to be very necessary. -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Proposal has been accepted. Vote is now closed. -- Master Sima Yi 16:16, May 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yay
 * 1) -- Master Sima Yi 13:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) --  13:15, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 3) Goes against wiki concept but seems necessary..information that needs to added can be first posted here in the talk page or in Sima's or Vatsa's talk page by other users.-- 13:19, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) Well, I was going to say "Allow only the admins to edit it," but seeing as you'll be able to, it kind of make my statement moot. With this in mind, I agree. Slate Vesper 13:22, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) --  13:31, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 6) --  IlMualim  Wanna Chat? 14:41, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 7) --  Stormbeast  The Helpful Place 16:23, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 8) -- ► Kaloneous ◄♣HelpDesk♣ 16:32, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 9) A small, but necessary sacrifice for order. The Leaping Eagle 21:11, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * 10) --  Arcemz  Something on your mind? 08:04, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Nay


 * Comments

Haras
I was under the impression that he was a mole for the Templars, since he states "I cannot betray those I never truly loved." The Leaping Eagle 21:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * That sentence does not imply as such. It simply means that he was an Assassin, but not at heart. He became dissatisfied with the Assassins and the slow progress he made as an apprentice. -- Master Sima Yi 21:28, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

DoB
I was wondering why Ezio's DoD is stated, while his DoB isnt. The Leaping Eagle (talk) 14:48, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Because the Timeline is written from a universal perspective, and on a universal scale, Ezio's dob wasn't significant. Not to mention that adding all dobs would clutter the Timeline with boring and insignificant information. -- 14:55, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see. Well, I admire that you're making this page; it can't be very easy. The Leaping Eagle (talk) 20:26, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

1488
couple of things, first theres a superflous 'the' before Checco's name presumably a vestige of it having refered to the orsi brothers together instead of naming each? also The city was eventually sieged by the Templars, until Ezio Auditore infiltrated the city and helped to reclaim it dosent quite feel right, if it was reclaimed by ezio surely it would make more sense if seiged was replacd with seized? 02:18, August 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, those were typos. Thanks for pointing them out, will fix them now. -- 10:22, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

2002
Just wanted to point out: "returned back" is grammatically incorrect as the "back" is redundant. "Daniel Cross returned to society" sounds nicer. Great work on the page by the way. =) 18:24, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Changed. -- 18:25, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Typo
In the 2010 section: "Shaun was recued by the Assassin Rebecca Crane .", should be 'rescued'.

And wouldn't this page benefit from a Table of Contents? 18:27, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also changed. And I don't think you are aware of how large the Table of Contents is, and how unorganized it is. I still need to come up with an alternative for it. -- 18:29, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Uh...yeah. I kind of feel stupid now... 18:31, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps a custom made ToC with collapsible headers dividing centuries? Or something like the wiki navigation templates, only instead of being at the bottom, it would be at the top, and serve as a ToC. Just a couple of suggestions... 18:35, September 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it could be like 2012 Conversations? Slate Vesper (talk) 18:46, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mini-spellcheck
I've run a small spellcheck on the page. Here's what turned up:
 * Prehistory: para 1, "inhabitors" -> "inhabitants"; para 5, "existinquishing" "extinguishing"
 * 259: para 5, "panick" -> "panic"
 * 1191: para 6, "Ibn-la'Ahad" -> "Ibn-La'Ahad"
 * 1498: para 1, "reobtained" -> "re-obtained"
 * 1887: para 2, "Mina Bergson" -> "Moina Bergson" My bad.
 * 1919: para 1, Federal Bureau of investigation -> should be internal link instead of Wikipedia.
 * 1954: para 1, "Abstero" -> "Abstergo"
 * 1985: para 1, "labelling" -> "labeling"
 * 2010: para 2, "Abtergo" -> "Abstergo"
 * 2012: para 5, "restabilizing" -> "re-stabilizing"

Hope I helped =) 10:55, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

A few things concerning the last edit:


 * Prehistory: para 1, "inhibitors" -> "inhabitants"
 * 44 BCE: "Liberators" -> "Liberatores"
 * 1985: para 1, "labelling" -> "labeling" (unless we're using British spelling, in which case, it's fine.)

Thank you. 11:31, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merge AC Initiates Data?
I think we should merge all data from the ac initiates timeline into this article. Im also locked out from editing it. America&#39;s mentor (talk) 01:55, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

nevermind just saw permanent lock. America&#39;s mentor (talk) 01:58, October 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I will put everything up there in due time, do not worry. -- 15:42, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

American Revolution events
There are a couple of events from the American Revolution that you have left out. These include: Boston Massacre, Boston Tea Party, and Paul Revere's midnight ride. The Dark Knight (talk) 00:01, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * They'll be added once we know about them in more detail, which is after the game comes out. 04:02, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I will add them as soon as I can. -- 15:43, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Expanded
i have an edit for the 2012 time line

2012: the American Revolution: Desmond goes back into the cinima and is now reliving the memories of Connor. Annamery Auditore (talk) 19:38, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

...Into the what? -- 19:41, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

You know, the cinima. And you're meant to be the 'crat of this place, jeez. I think Annamery should go ahead and just take the fuck over

WHO'S WITH ME? Toppers (talk) 19:43, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

umm. i know about the cinima because of the games and well what i am stateing is not false.i have not only done some resurch but i have also seen the game be played. now i am not saying that any of you have called me a liar but i just thought i would put that out there. and might i add it is very interesting. i must give the assassins creed creatored props for the awsome time line in the story. i cant wait for assassins creed 4. it will be a realy awsome one if they keep going down this path. 7:54 AM December 10 2012

The Revolution and Assassin's Creed III

I have noticed that no one has even tried to begin adding entries to this subject. I am willing to volunteer entries to the timeline which I have saved to file ...

Frenchy Auditore (talk) 08:27, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Correction
In the 1770 section, it says "hidden blades". Shouldn't it be "Hidden Blades"?

Not the most dire situation, but, you know. 00:02, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Like "Throwing Knives" and "Swords"? -- 10:40, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, Hidden Blade is a proper noun, it's different to swords and throwing knives.
 * Don't ask me why, I've just accepted it. 14:54, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Conflicting sources on that. I don't see why it would be capitalized, so I won't bother. -- 21:08, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. 21:09, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

In April 1783, Ratonhnhaké:ton finds the Apple of Eden in the abandoned village Kanatahséhton (his village). And meets Juno once again.
 * Yes, you are correct, will add that now. Though it is actually a Crystal Ball, not an Apple of Eden. -- 20:22, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

2012 Events (Desmond's death) Needed
This article has no information on the events leading up to Desmond's death. They need to be added. (Toolen (talk) 19:22, May 25, 2013 (UTC))

It will be added as soon as possible. Only Sima has access to the page, if not Nesty or Vatsa. Slate Vesper (talk) 19:48, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

1491 and 1492
Didn't Ezio kill Gaspar Martínez, Pedro Llorente and Juan de Marillo in 1491 not 1492, I checked in the Assassins page under the section Known victims of Ezio Auditore da Firenze and it said 1491. It's either the Assassins page is wrong or the Timeline is wrong. HunterGff (talk) 01:06, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Francisco Pizarro
This guy's name is misspelled. Slate Vesper (talk) 20:25, September 3, 2013 (UTC)

Fifth century BCE
Do we not need a redirect for Assassins? "Assassin's Hidden Blade". Altaïr Skywalker 47 (talk) 16:02, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dates for Bloodlines
Where did you get the dates for the events of Assassin's Creed Bloodlines? I was under the impression that the events of the game all took place in 1191. (Toolen (talk) 00:43, September 19, 2013 (UTC))
 * Well you would be wrong, I am afraid. Altaïr's Chronicles takes place in 1190; Assassin's Creed (1) takes place the year after, in 1991; and Bloodlines, which features the real-life (who died after 1192). -- 11:31, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I didn't know he was real. So he died in 1192, but in the Timeline Altair killed him in 1193. So there is still error. In the book "Secret Crusade" there is information that 2 years after the events on Cyprus Altair and Maria got married. So 1191+2 = 1193. In "AC Encyclopedia" there is sentence on 74th page "They eventually married in 1193 and had two sons, Darim ans Sef".


 * But I still think Bouchart was killed in 1192, not 1193. Am I right? 109.207.159.246 12:33, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * First edition or second edition? Because my 74th page is the beginning entry of The Renaissance. 12:53, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Second edition. Please look here >> Section 2 Story >> Middle Ages, Cyprus. You can find there this sentence. I think you should correct date of this marriage on the page of Altair, Maria, date of birth of Darim (1193, not 1195) and Sef (1195, not 1197), and date of death of Bouchart (1192, not 1193) 109.207.159.246 12:58, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * While I can confirm that the Encyclopedia says they married in 1193, it does not state when Darim or Sef were born. So, to clarify: Bloodlines spans from 1191 to 1193, with the death of Armand Bouchart in 1193; Altair and Maria married in 1193; Darim and Sef stay the same. Someone else will have to confirm the info from The Secret Crusade as I do not have it on me right now. 13:03, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Death of Bouchard was in 1192, not 93!!! >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Bouchart The dates of birth of Darim and Sef are also in Secret Crusade. At the beginning of section 4, in chapter 48, there is info that two years after events in Cyprus they got married and had son (1191+2= 1193), and two years later second son (1193+2 = 1195). Just check it and please, correct the dates in every article about them, oki? :) 109.207.159.246 13:12, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Again, we're going to check this over and confirm it before we do anything hasty. 13:14, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Besides, we don't use Wikipedia when it contradicts with what is established in the AC series, and ordering that we fix something is not becoming either. In fact, if you talk down to us, we're less likely to listen to you. Slate Vesper (talk) 13:17, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, thank you :) I've just create account. I've added information about errors in articles about: Altair, Maria, Darmin, Sef and Bouchard. And of course Timeline should be corrected. The secion about year 1193 should be move to 1192 and in 1193 should be info about marriage and birth of the Darim. Cez24 (talk) 13:19, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Slate Vesper >> but at the beggining of this topic one of the users posted link to wikipedia. I was wrong about date of death of Bouchart. It was AFTER 1192. So if Altair and Maria got marriade in 1193 so Bouchart had to be killed in 1193. Sorry, my mistake. So I think right now, that: AC: Bloodlines take place between 1191 and 1193. Marriage was in 1193, not in 95. Darim was born in 1193, not 95. And Sef was born in 1195, not 97. That's all :) Cez24 (talk) 13:23, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's probably just the WP-REAL template. It's probably put there because Armand Bouchart is a real-life individual, and serves to link his proper historical page to the AC representation of him. That does not mean that any conflicting information on Wikipedia gets precedence. Slate Vesper (talk) 13:27, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think 1195 - Darim's date of birth and marriage of his parents on AC Wiki was accepted because "Secret Crusade" told us that it was 2 years after events on Cyprus. So if Bouchart was killed in 1193 + 2 = 1195. But Encyclopedia says it is wrong deduction, because these 2 years we should add to the year 1191, not 93. 1191 + 2 = 1193 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia. Cez24 (talk) 13:35, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia article I linked to above does not say Bouchart died in 1192; it doesn't give a date for his death at all. In AC canon, Bouchart was killed in 1193. 1193 + 2 = 1195 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia. -- 15:42, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * "In AC canon, Bouchart was killed in 1193" - it's not the canon, it's deduction - please write the source where you think it was said it's canon. "1195 - confirmed date of marriage in Encyclopedia." - unfortunately not - as I said - the date of marriage confirmed in Encyclopedia is 1193, not 1195! Please check in this book. Cez24 (talk) 08:32, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Something else; the database in Revelations clearly states Darim and Sef's birthdates, 1995 and 1997 respectively. If there's conflicting information within canon, the information straight from the games overrules other sources such as the novels. As for Bouchart, I don't know, I haven't played the game, nor do I have the encyclopedia. However, I request you be a little more patient, as well as polite. Your spamming of the RA feed by raising the same topic on multiple talkpages will not move along your query any faster and is, frankly, annoying. 10:15, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but it's not spam. I've written information about this in every article which should be corrected. I thought it would be ok. Sorry if it is forbidden, I'm new here and didn't know. So right now confirmed information is: Darim's and Sef's birthday - 1195 and 1197. Death of Bouchard in 1193 and marriage of Altair and Maria in 1193. So only this marraige date is incorrect on AC Wiki, the rest is ok. Please check it in AC Encyclopedia and correct bio of Altair's and Maria's with this correct date of their marriage.Cez24 (talk) 10:27, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * You should've chosen one talkpage, or two at the most, to raise this issue, not six of them. Your source for the marriage being in 1993? The encyclopedia? I can't check that, since I don't have it, and I'd rather not make an edit without being entirely sure. I know it might seem annoying if it takes a while, but this Wiki tends to have its share of vandals, so if new users such as yourself come along with new information, the administrators like to double-check, just in case ^^; So for now, I suggest we wait until Jasca or Storm or someone else confirms their marriage was in 1993, not 1995. 10:37, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * 1193, not 1993 hehe ;) Ok, I understand. I have an idea, I can show you this page :) >>  Image Cez24 (talk) 11:32, September 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * So... did you confirm this? :) I've checked and in the 1st edition of Encyclopedia there is also date 1193. Cez24 (talk) 23:00, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just read The Secret Crusade. It states that Altair and Maria wed two years after the events on Cyprus. What does the encyclopedia say? Does it explicitly state that Altair and Maria wed almost immediately after the liberation of Cyprus? All that page in the encyclopedia says is that they married in 1193. Does it give the date elsewhere? If not, then I would go with what it says in The Secret Crusade.


 * I've written about this :) I unserstand "Secret Crusade" like that: 1191 - the year of beginning adventure on Cyrpus + 2 years = 1193 - the year when there was marriage. Confirmation of this date is Encyclopedia, scan I posted. And Encyclopedia is better source than novel. Why? Because last chapters of "Secret Crusade" is much different than events presented in Altair's memories in AC: Revelations game. So... when will you change the date in articles? I'm waiting one week right now :D Cez24 (talk) 09:53, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're not changing anything. The date of their marriage has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the date of Darim's birth. They married in 1193, Darim was born in 1195, and Sef in 1197. -- 10:04, September 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * He's talking about the date of marriage; in the articles it says 1195, while here, you and he are apparently agreeing on it being in 1193. I think that's the only actual change to be made. 10:21, September 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm talking only about date of marriage - 1193 not 1195 :) Please, correct it! Cez24 (talk) 10:36, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what the hell he's talking about anymore. If we're apparently agreeing on it, then I suppose I support it being changed. -- 10:51, September 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm talking about correcting date of Altair's and Maria's marriage in articles and in Timeline :) Cez24 (talk) 11:20, September 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Revelations database says Darim was born in 1195. The Secret Crusade says Darim was born two years after his parents' marriage. They were married only shortly after the events of Bloodlines. He is incorrect. -- 11:26, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * That would place the marriage in 1193 (in accordance with the Encyclopaedia); whereas Maria and Altair's articles state the marriage was in 1195. It looks as if he is correct, about that particular point at least. -- 11:49, September 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think there is no need to dabate about this, because the proof is here >> Image That's why I'm waiting someone would correct it in articles about Altair, Maria and Timeline ;) Cez24 (talk) 13:40, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * You said... -- 10:28, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Why confirmation of this takes so long? :O I've added myself this date 1193 to the bio of Altair and Maria but without source because I don't know how to put the source to the text. Please add AC: Encyclopedia as a source. And please add information about marriage in 1193 to the Timeline - I can't edit this article. Cez24 (talk) 09:44, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * You were always quite welcome to make the changes yourself. You can find sourcing instructions here. -- 09:47, September 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm trying but there is error :( >> http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Maria_Thorpe#Settling_down Source nr 4. How to do it correct? And how to edit Timeline article? Cez24 (talk) 09:58, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * The encyclopedia article says they were married in 1193, it doesn't say anything about the events of Bloodlines ending in 1193. Also, where does it say that Altair and Maria married immediately following the events of Bloodlines? I don't recall any official source stating that. In fact, on page 252 of Secret Crusade Marco Polo mentions that the marriage happened two years after the events on Cyprus. This seems to indicate that the entirety of the game took place in 1191. (Toolen (talk) 22:43, October 21, 2013 (UTC))

You are correct, TSC does say that. On page 363 of the original book, however. I got it mixed up for some reason. However, this does not change the date of the Bloodlines events; it only changes the date of the wedding, as on that same page it says that shortly after their wedding their son Darim was born. ACR confirms that Darim was born in 1195, so the wedding was around 1195 as well. Bloodlines ended in 1193. -- 18:51, October 22, 2013 (UTC)

No, the encyclopedia clearly states that they were married in 1193. Since TSC states that the wedding happened two years later, that means the events of Bloodlines were confined to 1191, and possibly 1192. Armand Bouchart's death was in either 1191 or 1192. Personally, I favor the former date, but if anyone has evidence it was the latter date, please post it here. Toolen (talk) 18:39, January 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Your proof? The Encyclopedia has been wrong before. Slate Vesper (talk) 22:13, January 29, 2014 (UTC)

'Siege of Acre' redlink
Couldn't we just have the redlink go the article 'Third Crusade'? The hyperlinked content will appear as 'Siege of Acre', but will lead to the link http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Third_Crusade. Nostalgia of Iran (talk) 13:14, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Modern Day
I was just wondering where 90 percent of AC3 and all of ACIV are on the timeline?

Moneymop (talk) 15:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

About the happenings in Abstergo Entertainment
Shouldn't be the happenings in Abstergo in 2013 here?

Cheers,

11:38, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Structural corrections in the 2012 section
I was reading through the 2012 section, and wish to note potential improvements to the following passages: ​ Molotov.cockroach (talk) 03:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Now: Clay uploaded an AI copy of his subconscious into the Animus for his successor to find[5]  and painted cryptic messages on the wall of his cell using his own blood before committing suicide due to the mental incapability of controlling the overlapping personalities the bleeding effect caused.[5]
 * Corrected: Clay uploaded an AI copy of his subconscious into the Animus for his successor to find[5]  and painted cryptic messages on the wall of his cell using his own blood. He then committed suicide due to the acute mental stress of controlling the overlapping personalities the bleeding effect caused.[5]
 * Now: With the aid of Daniel Cross,[32]  Desmond Miles was tracked down and abducted by Abstergo Industries following the discovery a fingerprint Desmond had made for a motorcycle license to take part in the Animus Project, which dubbed him as Subject 17. Forced to relive the memories of his ancestor Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad to acquire a map detailing all the Pieces of Eden,[13]  Desmond eventually escaped Abstergo with the help ofLucy Stillman, an undercover Assassin operative, and took up shelter in a hideout in Rome with Shaun Hastings and Rebecca Crane to make Desmond relive the memories of his ancestor Ezio Auditore da Firenze.[5]
 * Corrected: With the aid of Daniel Cross,[32]  Desmond Miles was tracked down and abducted by Abstergo Industries (following the discovery of a fingerprint Desmond had made for a motorcycle license) to take part in the Animus Project as Subject 17. He was forced to relive the memories of his ancestor Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad to aid Abstergo in acquiring a map detailing the locations of all the Pieces of Eden.[13]  However, Desmond eventually escaped with the help of Lucy Stillman, taking up shelter in a hideout in Rome with Shaun Hastings and Rebecca Crane. The Assassins then tasked Desmond with reliving the memories of his ancestor Ezio Auditore da Firenze to acquire his skills and memories.[5]

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I liked to own timeline
IDA about the new time line because you have completely (Don't mean to Christie) the events of black flag I compound find Edward Kenways exploits like who he came to be marooned in the Caribbean in 1715 --Owen1983 (talk) 23:53, June 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * What are you talking about? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  00:29, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

when are you going to upload the ending events of AC3 and all the events of AC4.....all events of AC4 are missing......

The Timeline is currently being rewritten and will detail all events. -- 11:17, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Updated with new information
and could you pls tell me that where are the following events in the story of "brotherhood" :

1.) abstergo industries founded....where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 20 in the timeline

2.) On 7 June, English mathematician and computer scientist  Alan Turing<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);"> was killed on orders of his former contractors Abstergo Industries, after having made a computers despite orders given to him to only make a fake robot for the press .....where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 21 in the timeline

3.) <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">The  Chilean<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);"> president  Salvador Allende<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);"> was overthrown in an Abstergo-orchestrated coup d'état masterminded by  Henry Kissinger<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">. Allende's communistic regime was replaced by a military junta and later by  Augusto Pinochet.......where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 24 in the timeline

4.) <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">Shaun was rescued by the Assassin Rebecca Crane.......<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">. where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 28 in the timeline....i remember it being in AC2

5.) <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">Warren Vidic started the Animi Training Program to train Abstergo operatives in combat, aiming to use them to combat the Assassin remnants ......<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">. where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 30 in the timeline

6.) <span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">In 2010, Abstergo Industries experimented on  Subject 15<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);"> for the Animus Project. Due to Subject 15 being pregnant, the memories of both her and the fetus' father were conflicting, resulting in overlapping memories in the Animus ..<span style="color:rgb(255,255,255);">. where is this stated in bortherhood's story??? reference no. 27 in the timeline

i cheked up them by opening their links and they were not in rifts but in the story.....so could u pls tell me where are they and when r u ging to upload the ending events of AC3 and all the events of AC4....

122.161.236.27 10:59, August 11, 2014 (UTC)jayam

You're only looking at half of the references. Shaun being rescued by Rebecca and the story of Subject 15 are revealed in the emails from www.abstergoindustries.com. The Animi Training Program is from the multiplayer of Brotherhood. Everything else is from the Rifts in Brotherhood. The Rifts are part of Brotherhood story as much as anything else. -- 11:20, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

And if you would take a look here, you'd see that I am currently in the process of revamping the Timeline, with all events from all games, and in a format that can easily be updated. New releases will be automatically added to the Timeline henceforth. -- 12:29, August 11, 2014 (UTC)