User:D. Cello/sandbox/guest

This sandbox page is for presentation purposes only. ''' Any project brought to my attention by another member of the site should be displayed here in order to keep the formatting clean and the idea clear. Projects can be anything from major overhauling in articles to templates ideas. Keep in mind that this sandbox is to be used by anyone, and not by me. Knock yourselfs out ;D'''

The Ones Who Came Before theories page
The glyphs in ACII dropped a fantastic assortment of information on us reguarding the ones who came before, the human race, the templars, and the assassin order, however a fair deal of this info falls between definitive enough to put into existing page, but deffinately more than just simple fan made theories. I have addes some info to the One's Who Came Before page several times only to have it taken away, so I would be interested in giving each aspect of them their own page (happy to do it my self, and provide all the evidence found in the glyph puzzles and elsewhere in the game) because I'm sure we can all tell that some of these theories are implied for a reason and will probebly be explored more in the third instalment (can't wait!)

I am particularly interested in creating a page explaining the implications of Human - Ones Who Came Before hybrids, as that scenario is rather heavily implied, and would explain a LOT that will no doubt play a major roll in the plot of ACIII. And I wish to stress that this isn't just me going on about my nerdy theories, I would only use information that is presented within the game's material, and provide descriptions of said material as evidence to support such implications as "Altair, Ezio, Desmond, etc are descendants of a hybrid blood line and that's why they can resist the pieces, because the extra neuro-transmitters are either not present or not fully fnctional as a result of the interbreeding" and all that noise.

And I am a man of my word, If I am given the green light, I would be happy to take responsability for such pages.
 * Knock yourself out, friend: Those_Who_Came_Before/Theories -- D. Cello 19:06, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Background?
I was thinking, we should have a background similiar to the Mafia wikia's one but take out the mobsters and put the Assassins (The apprentices). It's just an idea, since I could make them transparent so It wouldn't be a huge clunky background, but instead fit in the wiki (Or I could easily place them on a backgrund of your choice).

Take a look at the Mafia wiki and you'll see what I mean. Mafia Wiki

If you agree just give me a suitable background size/canvas and i'll get to work on it.

23:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC) If you have more ideas, feel free to post them. -- D. Cello 01:28, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * It ma be worth a try, things is: we don't have just a background, but a whole skin. Changing the background would imply further modifications, and I'll have to think them through. I'll get back to you on that ;D

Staff... thing... whatever.
Here's an idea, maybe you should have an 'Aspiring Editor' (With a productive name of course, they could be the Staff's goons or something) section/rank, a page for people that are dedicated to the wiki, but are not quite ready/wanting to join the Istrutti (Or if it's full, etc), and then maybe there would be another good use for War's panel pictures. ^^

The Thief 01:51, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Name Ideas;
I made a few invivtations, but I'm kinda sleepy and can't remember some names x.x If there's any member you want to invite or catches your eye, go call them ;D -- D. Cello 02:57, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Article Spy' - By The Thief
 * "This user is an Article Spy, a shady editor which is always on watch for a page breach, these users are noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki"
 * 'The Cavalry' - By The Thief
 * "This user is apart of 'The Cavarly'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki.
 * 'The Enforcers' - By The Thief
 * "This user is apart of 'The Enforcers'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki."
 * 'The Informants' - By The Thief
 * "This user is an Informant, a servant that serves under the Istruttorium and Administrators, this person carefully watches Articles for any problems such as false information and makes sure it is fixed thoroughly. This rank is given to editors noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki."
 * 'The Rafiqs' - By War Clown
 * "This user is a Wiki Rafiq, a chief that helps new assassins and novice informants, Rafiqs serve under the Istruttorium and Administrators, this person carefully watches Articles for any problems such as false information and makes sure it is fixed thoroughly. This rank is given to editors noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki."
 * 'Gli Informatori or The Informatori' By The Thief
 * "This user is an Informatori, a wiki informant that serves under the Istruttorium and Administrators, this person carefully watches Articles for any problems such as false information and makes sure it is fixed thoroughly. This rank is given to editors noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki."
 * That's interesting. It's a concept I'm willing to implement, but we need to shape it more before bringing it to the community. You have any idea formed? -- D. Cello 02:07, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, on the Staff Panel, It could be under the Istrutti. (Obviously, lmao)
 * Users who become apart of the team will be encouraged to edit more often and will be quite happy with that spiffy and respectable looking badge on their page, most dedicated editors don't get much of a reward for editing. :)
 * Here are some name ideas;
 * Article Spy
 * "This user is an Article Spy, a shady editor which is always on watch for a page breach, these users are noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki"
 * 'The Cavalry' ( I prefer this one )
 * "This user is apart of 'The Cavarly'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki.
 * The Thief 02:27, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * New Name Ideas;
 * 'The Enforcers'
 * "This user is apart of 'The Enforcers'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki."
 * 'The Informants'
 * "This user is an Informant, a servant that serves under the Istruttorium and Administrators, this person carefully watches Articles for any problems such as false information and makes sure it is fixed thoroughly. This rank is given to editors noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki."
 * Thief 22:22, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting... very interesting. I'll ask some of our most proeminet editors to come here check this out and igve their oppinions. =] -- D. Cello 02:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, boss. I hope it gets implemented, It's a great way to award editors. :D
 * The Thief 02:37, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * "This user is apart of 'The Cavarly'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki.
 * The Thief 02:27, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * New Name Ideas;
 * 'The Enforcers'
 * "This user is apart of 'The Enforcers'; a back-up, knowledgeable team of editors who serve under the Isstruttorium and Administrators, these users are noted for their skill in editing and dedication to the wiki."
 * 'The Informants'
 * "This user is an Informant, a servant that serves under the Istruttorium and Administrators, this person carefully watches Articles for any problems such as false information and makes sure it is fixed thoroughly. This rank is given to editors noted for their skill and dedication to the wiki."
 * Thief 22:22, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting... very interesting. I'll ask some of our most proeminet editors to come here check this out and igve their oppinions. =] -- D. Cello 02:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, boss. I hope it gets implemented, It's a great way to award editors. :D
 * The Thief 02:37, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting... very interesting. I'll ask some of our most proeminet editors to come here check this out and igve their oppinions. =] -- D. Cello 02:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, boss. I hope it gets implemented, It's a great way to award editors. :D
 * The Thief 02:37, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Thief 02:37, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Received the Invite

Staff Goons eh? It sounds so belittling and kinda sounds like an insult if said in the wrong tone, so I'd prefer the term "Little Helper" instead :D

That said, this is a good concept. Kinda a little reward for those who've helped out a lot in the wiki. Interesting idea. I'm all up for it :D War Clown 05:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

So, what's the news Cello? Are we waiting on more judgements? Maybe we should host a public poll or something if the others don't respond. :D

Thief 06:00, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Your only problem here, Thief, is finding a group of people that has contributed the same amount/level/whatever you have. Think you can find some partners? War Clown 12:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting concept. It reminds me of the new Brotherhood system. This should help us with more motivated editors. But I would prefer another name than Cavalry or Spy though... I'll try to think one.--PhantomT1412 18:08, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

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Sure thing, those names were only ideas anyway. Thief 22:25, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, Phantom.

Also @War; If this idea gets implemented, that awesome decision... is majorly up to you (The Isstrutorium and The Admins). :P

But I appreciate you consideing me a good contributer. Thanks. :D

Thief 05:57, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

So, you want us to decide who should be part of the your team eh? I have some notable people in mind, sure. BTW, is The Cavalry the final name? How about...hmm....let's see here...ahm.....ah....How's about the...ugh, no. I'll try to think of one. In the meantime, let's wait and see if this idea can get more approvals

(And yeah, you're a good contributor. You helped me with some screenies and other stuff here, so that's good :P) War Clown 10:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

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Well, not my team. The Admin and Istrutti's. :P. As I mentioned before the names are only ideas feel free to post some ideas yourself. They're not final names. :S

Thanks though, keep thinking :D Thief 11:13, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

How about The Rafiqs? You'd be like Malik and the other 2 from Acre and Damascus that was in the Bureau. That's the best I can come up with at the moment :D War Clown 06:54, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

You know what? That was one of my early ideas, but I originally thought they were called "Dai" and to be honest, Dai is kind of a crappy name. But 'The Rafiqs' is a great idea. I like it and it was in the actual game world and matches what this rank would actually do. Great idea, I'll add it to the list. Thief 07:08, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I also like Rafiqs but I'm worried that it would be too similar in term of rank as Istruttori...--PhantomT1412 20:55, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

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That's true, Istruttori means teacher/coach as a noun, and the adjective means "investigating and examining". That's almost exactly what a Rafiq does. Thief 00:07, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I got a good one;

Gli Informatori or The Informatori

Which is basically The Informants, in italian. It sounds like Istruttori too. Thief 00:09, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

These are fun, but just wondering, if we are even going to have nicknames for dedicated editors, why dont we make up an AC nickname for Admins...? CarloGrimaldi 04:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

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I guess that's up to Cello. :D Thief   talk 13:20, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Admin is admin. Every admin is a user, but not every user is a admin. Admin in a job, not a title. -- D. Cello 20:35, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

How is it different from calling mods Istruttori? CarloGrimaldi 23:49, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cause Wikia doesn't have such things as an "moderator". I created the Istruttori, and I classified them as mods. They're from here only, and nowhere else. They are a rank. Admin is a post. -- D. Cello 23:55, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad, the only other wiki ive been a part of is the final fantasy wiki, so i assumed they all had moderators CarloGrimaldi 03:18, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * This idea is getting longer and longer everyday...no final word on the other invited ones? War  Clown Wanna Talk? 03:44, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I vote rafiq... CarloGrimaldi 05:44, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we should put up a poll via the blogs... I'll make one if Cello agrees. Thief   talk 07:28, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * A poll for what? This Team or the Names? War  Clown Wanna Talk? 10:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * A poll for what? This Team or the Names? War  Clown Wanna Talk? 10:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Daddy's home! ;D
 * Okay, I've managed to find some time and an internet today. A LOT of things came up, and I'm surfing may way through them. I am (and will be) very, very busy this week, so my presence here will be.. well, except for today, probably nule. So, to the reviews!
 * First thing before we think in a cool name, is "what the hell that rank will do". When I created the Istruttori, I tought: "Hmmm... this wiki is so small, but htere are people who really work hard (Phantom, SIma, Jasca and Zwoosh at the time). I'll should create something to keep them motivated, maybe even give them more power... So, I'm an admin (turned 'craut a week later ;D), Silver's a admin, so we basically keep watch over the wiki. Since I'm implementing the Featured/Good system, I'll put them in charge! They will be the best editors, and will create and monitorate those articles, so anyone who reads them will learn what a nice article is like and strife for it. Learn... they teach. Teahcers, professors, istructors... Italian ounds better... professor, professores, instruttore.. istruttori... Istruttori!" And they were borned =P They got a nice tag, rollback rights and later became staff as wiki moderators, which I personally describe as the "first line of choice when I need to pick a new admin". So here, it's no different.
 * But turned out that, as moderators, they don't keep a watch only over those articles, but all wiki and it's users. So, my ideas:

And user [Farzad] came to me with an request for points that would "rank" editors, so my idea is: We do the points this system. Once an editor gets to sufficient points, he may *apply* to one of the groups within his experience range. We analyze, and if he would be a good call, he joins. What you think? -- D. Cello 18:54, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * We could create a group to combate vandals. They monitore the pages, and when they got vandalisms, they report in a special page and the guy gets blocked. (like guards at Masyaf, we could say) Name could be like The Guardianos, The Custodi, or something.
 * We could make a group that focus solely on images, so they strive for the better quality pictures to add. (something like a librarian or a painter) Name: The DaVincians =P
 * And one more group about expanding info or something, can't think of it now.

That's good, I like The Custodi, Guardians are bit too overused. What if a user is a photographer and a vandalism guard? :P

Maybe make that those 3 are normal groups and then the group i'm discussing now      helps and guides them through their wikiness :D.

So here's a layout;

 STAFF PANEL RANKS  (From highest to lowest)

THE ADMINS

....

THE ISTRUTTORIUM

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THE RAFIQS

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THE CUSTODI - THE INFORMATORI - THE PAINTERS 

....

Wiki Normal Users

Tell me what you think, Cello! :D Thief   talk  22:30, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Staff panel
Other than these awesome userboxes (courtesy of yours truly), I have an idea regarding the Staff Panel, particularly the Istruttori. As you know, there are various multi-player characters that have been made public so far, and I thought, instead of the Istruttori being a Hospitalier, an Instructor/Guard, an Informant, and Da Vinci, I thought we could make it something like this:

So, what do you think? War Clown 14:32, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good too. But we need pictures of all MP characters, all with a white background and all measuring 100px. 2 of the pictures above aren't squares, but rectangles. We are the staff, we have to look awesome! ;D

By the way, you know how to add the userboxes to Templates? -- D. Cello 17:37, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought you knew how :( Anyways, what do you mean by rectangles? War Clown 05:37, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * - It's a shape consisting of two even parrallell lines at the top and bottom and two even parrallell lines on right side and left side, these lines are not all equal.
 * [ ] <- That's a rectangle The Thief 13:38, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * [ ] <- That's a rectangle The Thief 13:38, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hilarios :D Be glad I'm in a good mood War Clown 13:47, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * You noticed how the pictures in the staff page take all the space? They completely fill the square space above the names. The pictures you put up there don't. They look unequeal, not standard. You need to fix those before implementation. -- D. Cello 18:29, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, you wanted to know what it is, so I told you :P
 * The Thief 02:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Thief 02:23, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

It will be done. And Thief, don't push it :D -War Clown 03:16, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Hey, sorry then. I don't know why you're so angry. Not trying to be an ass or anything. >.<

Just a joke, mate. :S

The Thief 04:26, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I never said I was angry :D War Clown 10:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, this is harder than I thought. I keep updating them images, each update a different size, and yet it's still unequal! Is there some trick to this? I have no idea what else to do, other than re-crop the images and update it. War Clown 11:35, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Crop squarely. -- D. Cello 01:43, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I really am no good in measurement XD It's still uneven! There's something fu-ahem....funky about that template, no matter what I do, it won't even out! I'll put this problem on hiatus for now. I still have some work to do around here :D War Clown 12:23, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * What you can do is take this picture and resize your images using this one as a template =P -- D. Cello 18:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I think it's fixed. Here's the new code
 * I....had.....no idea....it had to be that big! The pics I used only measured about 100 to 200. That's why it was so uneven! Damn. Anyways, I'll get right on it :D War Clown 10:06, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

So is it good enough? War Clown 10:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, looks good. I'll add it as soon as possible. -- D. Cello 16:18, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool :D War Clown 04:21, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: It's been two days already? Wow, that storm was worse than I thought :( War Clown 04:22, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * After a small long period, I did it! Staff page changed, War ;D -- D. Cello 16:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hoho, sweet! Thanks :D War Clown 02:46, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, I spotted a problem in the panel. Requiem's link doesn't work, not only on the Staff Panel, but also in this sandbox, on both of the codes here. Odd, I can't fix it. War Clown Wanna Talk? 04:26, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Userboxes
I'm glad to see another wiki using the userboxes, it was a sad day when Halopedia shut them down. I was one of the most active in the creation of the userboxes, and I was curious if I was allowed to create my own for everyone to use. Basic ones like "This User hates Brutes" or something like that, and more customized, like "This User is saddened by the loss of Uncle Mario" and the such. If this is permitted, then I would just have to scavenge the old userbox code from Halopedia (might take some time, but I know it's still there) and find some good pictures to go with them.

Also, I was curious as to if it would be possible/allowed for us non-Admins to create our own, custom userboxes, and, maybe, just maybe, if they get popular enough they, the custom userbox, could get added to the userbox page?
 * We already have userboxes codes, and people already create custom using that code, so go ahead, create as many as you please. =]


 * Template:Userbox
 * Template:Userbox-2
 * Template:Userbox-r
 * And if one/some of the userboxes looks good enough and is releveant enough to reach a majority of users, we can add them to the sites official list, sure. Actually, those userboxes mady by War Clown on the right are on the process of being added to the Official gallery already. -- D. Cello 18:45, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, sounds good. I'll get to work when I can find some free time. Thank you. -- Mechanical-Menace 04:49, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Groups
As well as the above curiosity, I have another question. I was wondering if the Admins would like to implement a group system. Again, this is like what Halopedia had, but once again, shut it down. I already know about the Istruttori, which monitors Featured Articles and the like, but if we included some other groups, like for instance the Assassins and Templars. Assassins gain rank via fixing, creating, and expanding the Assassin pages, and the same for the Templars (except Templar pages). When Halopedia had this sort of thing going it brought many of the Users who like the same type of pages together, creating new friendships. Of course each group would need a "group admin" (for the Assassins maybe a "Master Assassin" and the Templars a "Grandmaster".). As well as each group having ranks that have something to do with the group (Assassins having "Initiate" for those that had just joined, or have not done much.), in which the User sends a request to a Group Admin asking for a promotion with a link to their contributions, and if said GA (Group Admin) agrees then the User is allowed to move their name to a rank above their previous one.

Also, each group should have an enforcer like User (Possibly "Judge" for the Templars), that goes through the lower ranked Users in their respective group and make sure they're following each groups' policies, and this special rank can only be given by the GAs, and only given to like one or two, max of three Users that have proven themselves worthy. Each enforcer, should they find enough evidence, bring this attention to both the GA(s) and the wiki Admins so that the suspected User gets reprimanded properly (Such as banning from the group, and or, banned from the wiki for a set amount of time).

Thank you very much for taking the time to look at these ideas of mine. The very menacing machine.
 * I think this whole enforcer thing and ban people from group is unecessary, and temp block from wiki is totaly not happening. People don't have any obligation here, nobody edits cause they have to, we do it cause we WANT to. Getting banned by not following an specific criteria by another user is unfair and subjective. About the groups, though, it is something that indeed we could do, we just need to figura a way of effectively implementing it.
 * Why those ideas were shutdown in Halopedia? -- D. Cello 18:39, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, you make an interesting point, and to answer your question, they were shutdown because of the lack of activity as there was a lull in the new content. However, with a new game coming out, namely Reach, a lot of new content has been coming up, and several users, including Admins, are holding a vote to bring the groups back. This was just a suggestion, ultimately the power is up to the Admins, I just thought I'd ask since many users at Halopedia had a good time using the groups, just trying to spice things up a little. Thank you for your time. -- Mechanical-Menace 04:56, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Personally I think it might be too hard to monitor all the users in these groups to see if they're following the group rules and personally I think almost every user is going to be in The Assassins group, also this is a Wiki about straightforward information. If you want to discuss things or roleplay the game in such a way you should head over to fan club forum or our very own community forum and post a topic about what you want to express.
 * Personally I think it might be too hard to monitor all the users in these groups to see if they're following the group rules and personally I think almost every user is going to be in The Assassins group, also this is a Wiki about straightforward information. If you want to discuss things or roleplay the game in such a way you should head over to fan club forum or our very own community forum and post a topic about what you want to express.


 * Also, a lot of users registered here edit Assassin pages just as well as Templar pages, we're here to all help each other out with mistakes and grammar. We can't just leave a page with horrible grammar unfixed because it is information on the Templars.
 * The Thief 02:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * You make a very interesting point, thank you for the feedback. -- Mechanical-Menace 04:56, July 11, 2010 (UTC)