Talk:Hidden Blade

Finger amputation
"This amputation is part of the initiation into the Hashshashin sect, which the Assassins are based on." To me, this sounds like the real life assassins did that. I thought that was an in-game contrivance? If it's real, and they really did do that, could someone source that? And, if not, could it please be reworded? Thanks. 90.206.121.92 09:54, December 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * "Patrice Desilets, the creative director of the game stated that the addition of a second blade in Assassin's Creed II also had a lucid reason: it's the sequel, it's Assassin's Creed II so there are 2 blades."


 * Cool, so Assassin's Creed 3 will have 3 blades? Then where will it be :D 203.162.3.165 14:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * If there was a third, it would probably be on his foot or something... (J.h.jaraub 20:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC))


 * I agree--Sangheili wunna be 21:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree aswell. The future assassin would most likely have a mechanism under his foot that pops out a blade for kick-stabbing or something. Anyone see Deadliest Warrior: CIA vs. KGB? Apparently KGB dudes have foot-blades lol. DracoX872 02:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * theres some production art of ezio with two hidden blades on the same hand, it really cool looking. i dont know what practical purpose that would have, but its possible. CarloGrimaldi 00:40, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hidden blades have changed loads over the years..... The most recent I've seen are one's that if flicked one way, the blade comes out the wirst (Like Ezio's and Altair's) and if balled into a fist, a blade will come out from the knuckles making a punch attack more fatal...... I've even seen ballistics hidden blades that when the pin is pulled, gunpowder ignites and the knife shoots out at distance like a throwing knife........ EchoAltair 00:52, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * What I don't get is why does Altair use a button to realise the blade in one of the E3 trailers?The Loyal Recruit 19:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * What I don't get is why does Altair use a button to realise the blade in one of the E3 trailers?The Loyal Recruit 19:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

History
Guys, this article needs a History section, comprising everyhting that happened and explaining exactly what the hell is a hidden blade, not it's "uses". Like, when it was invented, who was the first known guy to use it, the rituals involving it in the crusade, the importance it had in Altaïr's mission, the upgrades made via Codex, the reconstruction by Leonardo da Vinci, etc. -- D. Cello 22:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * What I wanna know is how it works.
 * Ask nicely. -- D. Cello 05:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know how 'real' hidden blades work (much different to gameplay usage) and I also know why they were invented but don't know how I would put it in the article without it relating to the gameplay.......EchoAltair 00:58, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * most people have an idea on how to make a springloaded blade pop out. but how do you make it retract ?
 * Simple... but I'm not telling you, cause it is *not related to the article*! -- D. Cello 22:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Improvements?
Hey guys, what improvements does this article need? Can someone please make a bulleted list or something that way everyone can help add it on? DracoX872 02:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * If there is one thing that this article is missing is mention of desmond's hidden blade, from the looks of it it is moere modern and significantly smaller, also the scenes where Ezio uses his blade as a lock pick. - anon

Article Name?
Should the B for blade be a capital? In-game it is...  The T h i e f  13:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Definitely. In-game is godly-canon. :P -- P  i   r   a   t   e   h   u   n   t   e   r   (Talk&bull;Contribs) 16:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)2
 * Great :D  The T h i e f  00:31, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mechanism
I think the new blade is rigged to them flexing their fore arm. give helpful criticism or add on.
 * How It Woks:
 * How It Woks:

Any questions please ask. The picture is by someone on the website Exotic Automatic, which has a wide range of Hidden Blade designs. This by far is my favourite because of it's simplicity.
 * 1) Hand is flexed.Hidden_Blade_Mechanism.png
 * 2) Chord attached to finger is pulled.
 * 3) Chord pulls Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180'.
 * 4) Wheel rotation moves arm attached to second point of lazy tongs/scissor jack.
 * 5) Scissor Jack stretches out, extending blade.
 * 6) Pawl (locking mechanism) prevents the wheel from turning counter clockwise.
 * 7) Hand relaxes
 * 8) Spring on Pull Switch pulls the Pull Switch down (this does not turn wheel due to the shape of the teeth, the just slip over each other) into initial position.
 * 9) When the wielder wants to retract the blade, he or she pulls on the chord again.
 * 10) Chord pulls the Pull Switch which rotates wheel 180' again.
 * Arm, and therefore scissor jack, is brought back to initial position.
 * 1) Hand relaxes.
 * 2) Spring on Pull Switch pulls Pull Switch down into initial position (again without effecting the wheel).
 * 3) Ready to go again.


 * It has already been confirmed that the blade is controlled by the flexing of the wrist muscles. Also, sign your posts. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 21:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies. But realistically that wouldn't work. With the amount of climbing and fighting Ezio does, that would cause the blades to come out at very inconvenient moments. Only a mechanism triggered by a chord would work effectively. 84.93.160.45 23:16, November 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the crits above.But Ezio gave up of the ring mechanism as like said it would come out in very surprisingly moments. The new design was developed by Da Vinci . He also gave up of the Jack scissors.
 * In Altair's blueprints the blade can be seen actioned by a ring only because the Levantine Assassins would cut their ring finger in order to weild the blade. In the trailer of Assassin's Creed 2 Ezio can be seen pulling a ring but no such thing exits in the gameplay, or wallpapers, or AC B or AC Revelations... And Da Vinci mentiones that he modified the design so that no such sacrifice would be needed anymore. You have done a great work but I believe everyone knew about this mechanism... or I knew from the moment I saw the blade.
 * Our problem is discovering how Ezio manages to activate his blade without a ring or a chord tided up to his finger. More complicate is that he can use the Hidded Gun same way by just moving his thumb to the left.
 * The Hidden Blade is my main occupation . After I joined the Assassins I was welcomed very cold despite my encouragement ... the Blade is the only reason I'm still here .Jesper Loore 14:22, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Where did it go?
Anyone wanna have a long debate about what happened to Ezio's dad's hidden blade and bracer after he fainted on his way to Rome? It just disappeared and was replaced like I said on the Trivia. Any theories? :P Bonkorz 02:30, January 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * My theory: Machiavelli or his men find Ezio passed out on his way to Rome. He discovers that the bracer is broken, but not the blade, or any of the other killing bits. While the new robes were being made/delivered, a new bracer was made to fit the undamaged hidden blade mechanisms (gun, poison and all). The poison blade, the gun and the repaired hidden blade come from Altair's codex. I have to assume that nobody but Leonardo could have built them. Therefore, Ezio's "new" hidden blade is actually a repackaging of Giovanni's hidden blade.--CasualGamer 00:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * That AND where Desmond's bracer went? Bonkorz 02:31, January 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Desmond most likely took off the Bracer, too noticable 75.171.31.44 06:43, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hidden bolts?
what are they about? is it to do with dart thing or something cuz i dont get it... Nuclear Simon 16:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it works the same ... its a Project Legacy weapon User:Eggy2504 17:46, 28 June, 2011

Adding images...
Hi, I was wondering how I should go about adding a image for the duel hidden blades. It is a quality image but the gallery section just has videos and I don't want to just put it in the article (incase I screw it up). I will add the image below so hopefully the editors and admins can decide. Thanks for all your hard work on the site too! :) Kaloneous 12:55, June 28, 2011 (UTC)



I was wondering if someone could add a pic of desmonds hidden blade because I am unable to because of crap computer.

Subject DM 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)Subject DMSubject DM 15:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

AC refference in GI Joe
If you watch the GI Joe movie (the newer one), you will notice that when Storm Shadow kills the Count he uses a hidden blade the looked very Assassin's Creed based. The only difference was that he had to turn a knob to retract it. Just thought this was interesting.

Doubt it was a direct reference. Retractible wrist blades have been in fiction since before AC.70.70.13.203 20:12, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Bend?
Hmm... I never noticed that. Well,Falco Luce del Sud-Est, give us a picture and tell which hand. Nuclear Simon 10:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Revelations?
Will you be able to get you second hidden blade back in revelations or is it replaced by the hook blade? TheDudeMan123456 21:03, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hope soPingoEagle 12:26, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed 3= 3 hidden blades?
Do you think that, in AC3, Desmond and The Animus main characther will have 3 hidden blades?

Two on his right, one on the left... who knows?PingoEagle 12:23, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Or one on his foot.TheDudeMan123456 23:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Or maybe,one of the blades might look like this: http://spikings.deviantart.com/art/AC-Victorian-Hidden-Blade-220678580 (without the finger amputation part(

I had heard that they are getting rid of the hidden blades in Assassin's Creed 3 4:48, April 12 2012

Well, you're wrong. Look at the far right of the wiki; you can see his blade right there.Einsteinium99 23:18, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Nah I think the'll just keep it at two one left one right.

wait didnt check the link (facepalm) (Ntesla666 13:42, May 15, 2012 (UTC))

Desmond's Hidden Blade
In Assassin's creed 2, Desmond gets a replica of Giovanni's hidden blade,

In Ac:b, where the hell happened to the bracer?!

PingoEagle 08:01, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Desmond removed the bracer to help conceal the blade itself as a precaution should the get pulled over or found. It allowed for a lighter blade arm (an estimated pound or 2 taken off from the bracer being removed) so he could move easier and so it isn't noticed under the sweatshirt sleeve.

165.234.180.58 16:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)Excalibur0047

I suspect that in modern times assassins wear more concealable hidden blades. How many people do you see (in the modern elements of the game) wearing bracers? -- ► Kaloneous ◄♣HelpDesk♣ 08:18, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be very happy if we lost the ability to block with the hidden blade due to the lack of bracer with Desmond. So that we'd have to use the Hidden Blade Altaïr-style, which I found a lot more challenging. RussellSparrow 17:58, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

No one would wish to have Altairs Hidden Blade. Luckily Da Vinci managed to modify its design. Now heres why, Altairs blade required a rings finger sacrifice because of the blades harsh design. The Levantine Asassins blade was actioned by a ring which by their freestyle running would come in and out incoveniently. Imagine your blade come out while you grab on a wall. Sorry but I am fully aganist Altair's blade.Jesper Loore 14:29, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I too am against Altair's blade.Fairy Tail Grand Master 14:55, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Shock Blade
Who put the picture of a non-existent blade here? It should be removed, along with the modern blade.Einsteinium99 18:44, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was Jasca Ducato, but he is an administrator so I don't know if it's real or not. 18:56,11/19/2011

Where'd you find the pics? Are these blades mentioned in the game?




'Cause I find it interesting that I can't see anything about it in The Trivia or in The Sources...

And both the shock blade and the modern blade have baggy arm sleeves (the sleeves seem like they're too big for the person). None-the-less....

They do look great! :-)

Subject 16 18 02:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

They're from the Encyclopedia. Stormbeast 02:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be a doll and type up the info on it? Seeing as how I don't own the encyclopedia? Subject 16 18 11:50, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

There's no info on the shock blade though. It just tells about Daniel, Paul, and Desmond all using a modern version. Stormbeast 02:54, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Shizzle? You'd think there'd be info about a blade that can electrocute someone. :-p Subject 16 18 20:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I really hope that in AC3 we can use the Shock Blade aswell as the original hidden blade for Desmond. RiftMan 10:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know right! You can electrocute one Templar and make the other bleed. Subject 16 18 20:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome!! Maybe you can use a taser in Desmond gameplay(AC3)Dimachaerii 06:06, May 13, 2012 (UTC)(Dimachaerii)

"Blade" designs...
Would it be worth mentioning in the page that the "blade" had a different design during the high middle ages and the renaissance?. i mean, altair's blade was more of a "spike" than a blade, designed to drill trough metal plates by brute force and speed and then, puncture some vital organ, as seen in Altair's finishing moves, he aims at lungs, stomach, spine and neck, rarely ever using it to "cut" and even when he does, he has to do so with extremely quick slices.

This design was even kept in the Revelations revamp (with most of the puncturing animations, btw, he sometimes gets a second blade out of nowhere...)

In contrast, Ezio's blade is a legitimate blade, used to cut trough flesh and light armor easily, but not efficient at armor piercing, hence, Ezio aims at the unarmored parts of brutes and other enemies, most commonly the neck, and cuts trought the torso of lightly armored enemies. 200.53.254.219 02:00, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Altaïr's Knife Gun
Should the knife-gun from Bloodlines be added to this article? The Leaping Eagle 15:49, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

The New Hidden Blade
From the teaser for the first gameplay trailer, the new Hidden Blade (dats right, caps biatch) can be removed from the mechanism, making it more of a hidden stiletto, should we update the page with this info? --TheRealTerminal 03:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * The latest ac3 trailer seems to show this --Round Head 07:24 may 8, 2012
 * Let's wait until we get a bit more information; at the moment all we could possibly say is that he weilds a "hidden blade-turned-dagger". -- 13:18, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, where does it say the blade could not be removed back in Altair/Ezio's times? If anyone can state where or how it can't would be much appreciated. -- Teller Words, On my Screen :O 13:22, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * You know it actually can be removed. We see Ezio separate his blade and bracer before fist fighting Rodrigo. The only problem is that there is no handle, so no way to actually wield it. IlMualim  Wanna Chat? 13:35, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Firstly, the blade is separate from the bracer. All the bracer is is a form of protection for the user's forearm (the blade is attached to the buckles that hold the bracer in place). Secondly, I've added a brief paragraph about the dagger variation, which should be more than suitable. -- 17:48, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * The blade also seems to have a rope/wire attached to it as seen in the trailer and some screenshots, alowing for strangulation kills. --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  18:09, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Where do you see that? I can't see a wire. (Ultraman468)
 * Well maybe we can attach a rope to the hidden blade or there is a brand new weapon called the rope dartDimachaerii 06:03, May 13, 2012 (UTC)(Dimachaerii)


 * Yup. There's is a weapon called the Rope Dart. At one point in the video you'll see connor jump of a tree, and one fellow get pulled up as if he's being hung. IlMualim  Wanna Chat? 06:27, May 13, 2012 (UTC)