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Blood Assignment

 * Main article: WikiProject - The Blood of a Templar

As suggested by Apprentice Story Format of some of the headers need fixing, and a few links need updating (particularly Savonarola's lieutenants).

However, mainly, the list needs updating to include missing media, as well as the Templars within them. As I see it, the list needs Project Legacy, Ascendance, The Fall and the French comic, plus a few from Revelations.

Comments

 * If you have any questions, or just want to mention any updates, speak here :) =GuardDog 06:04, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll get right to work on this when I return from class later today, but I just wanted to know if I should add the Apprentice rework template to the article currently, or whether I should just work on in through my Sandbox? Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 10:55, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was actually a little unsure with that - given it's a project sign-up page, people may avoid signing up if they see the revamp template. Might be better not to put it at all. Thus, you can either edit it in parts, or just use your sandbox, your choice =GuardDog 11:04, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Guard, I just wanted to update you on the status of this first assignment. Even though I received this assignment very recently, I believe I have updated it to the specifications you described. I added the lone assassination target from Ascendance, Octavian de Valois, as well as the assassination targets for The Fall and the French comic. I also added the Revelations assassination targets, but there was only one to add, The Crusader, as the rest have yet to be confirmed as Templar Agents/assassination targets in the game. Lastly, I fixed the spacing and headings, and some other minor things (Adding the tag for articles with Good status, updating the amount of articles, that sort of thing.) Take a look at it when you get a chance, and have a good night, and sorry for this novel of an explanation XD. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 01:40, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good work, Nos, not to mention fast. XD I've looked it over, and found it complete. This's nearly done, however, sorry that I forgot to mention something - please also add the project's template to any characters that weren't previously on the list. Just for completeness' sake =GuardDog 04:35, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, I just added the template to all of the articles that were missing it, sorry about that. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 10:53, November 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, I forgot to mention it. Anyway, well done - that's officially merited your first rank up (there're 15 to go, so expect them to start out pretty quickly, and slow down later :p). I'll be posting your next assignment later today or tomorrow. =GuardDog 10:57, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Serenissima Assignment
Mainly, page requires a more detailed, expanded and fully sourced history section; preferably with subsections to make it easier to read. General formatting (particularly of images) could use improvement as well.

Comments
Alright so that's all I've done so far, as you can see I'm uncertain whether to add images to the Database entry, Landmarks, and Trivia sections, but overall I hope to be done by Monday if that's ok :P Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 04:59, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * As per usual. Requires an amount of expansion (particularly for info from Lineage, and a little from AC2) thus take as much time as you need. =GuardDog 18:23, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Quick question Guard sorry if this seems obvious, but with articles on existent locations (i.e. Venice) should the article still be written in the past, or should it be written in the present? Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 22:20, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I wonder about that too sometimes. In the pattern of other locations, the lead sentence is in present tense ("Venice is a city located...") while the rest is past. Generally, anything still true can be in present, though I personally prefer past for cohesiveness' sake. (On a side note, really, feel free to ask me anything. That's what I'm around for :p) =GuardDog 06:15, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Guard I just wanted to give you a quick update on my work on this assignment so far.
 * Images - Replaced nearly all of the article's images with better ones, and have gotten rid of any unnecessary and/or badly placed images.
 * History - Renamed and named multiple sections, and added entire information for Lineage and most of AC2 information. I'm going to proofread, edit, and maybe expand this even more to make sure it encompasses everything about the city.
 * Landmarks - Fixed layout and did minor rewording for listing, also fixed it so that it's all in a smooth layout and removed double links for it, but I'm wondering if I should add any images to this section? I wasn't planning on it but if you think it should have some I'd gladly add them in.
 * Carnevale - Minor rewording for this section, with the addition of an accompanying image.
 * Assassination targets - Fixed minor grammatical errors.
 * Database entry - (N/A)
 * Trivia - Trimmed down a bit and did some minor rewording.
 * Hm, good choice of lead quote. Anyway, you've made a lot of progress - thus, some critique:
 * Images - Much better choices. As for placing one in the Database section, yes, I'd recommend it. Any general image of Venice from the gallery would be good - better to look at then just plain text. As for Landmark section, images should only be those that are relevant. As such, the Basilica or Piazza San Marco images might go well. Trivia seems fine as is.
 * History - may just be my personal preference, but the History section might be easier to read if each paragraph was shorter. Though as you said, you're still going to proof it, so just might want to keep that in mind. As much as I've glanced through it, info seems complete already though.
 * Landmarks - I'd recommend not having the lead sentence at all, as it's rather self-explanatory. Or at least removing the "in AC2" part, as it's OOU.
 * Carnevale - I'd suggest merging this as a subsection in History actually, or at least moving the section right after it - your choice, either's fine.
 * Sourcing - this is rather important for the History section, as it's from multiple media. Do you need tips on doing this? If so, just let me know~
 * Overall, it's looking much better so far. You seem to choose quotes well, thus I'd recommend adding one more somewhere in the History section, if you can find one. Keep at it ;) =GuardDog 09:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey GD I just wanted to let you know that I've finished the assignment, take a look at it when you get a chance and if there's anything that I missed or needs to be added, just let me know. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 18:03, November 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just final notes that I failed to notice earlier - the references/source section should be the final one, only above the defaultsort and the game templates. Also, just remember when sourcing, you need only use " " the first time. All sourcing following them may merely be written " " Just amend this, and it should be done. =GuardDog 06:59, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, I just fixed that minor error and removed the Apprentice template from the article. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 12:23, November 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very good then, assignment closed. Will have the next one up later today. =GuardDog 01:04, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sanctuary Assignment
Similar to that above. Merging of History and Targets section, as well as related rewording, sourcing and subsectioning. More appropriate images are needed as well.

Comments
My goal is to be done this article by the 10th, so you have some time to review it before you take your break. Lastly, I just had three quick things: there was a Maps section in the article, but I removed it and just moved those images to the gallery, is that ok, or should Maps have their own section? Also, do you think the infobox image is okay? I myself want to crop out the part which has Altaïr standing on a beam, and I could not find any better images (In my opinion). Lastly, I've noticed I'm working fast (If I do say so myself), and I just wanted to make sure that this is not a problem for any reason. Thanks Guard, and have a good night. Nostalgia AC Let's talk 02:09, November 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * As usual. Also, just as a heads-up, I'll be taking a break from the wiki around Nov 11 (for obvious reasons :p), but rest assured I'll check up on any work you complete after I get back. =GuardDog 11:28, November 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, today I was lucky enough to get a lot of work in on this assignment.
 * Quest for the Chalice - Hoping to finish this section tomorrow, haven't done much to it yet.
 * Hunt for the Nine - Added entire section and finished it. As always, though, I'm going to work on editing and refining it tomorrow as well.
 * Solomon's Temple - Hoping to add this section either tomorrow or Wednesday.
 * Maps - Removed section and moved images to Gallery.
 * Gallery - Added some images and moved some from Maps section to there.
 * References - Going to add references to each paragraph and add the reflist tags to this simple section.
 * Looks good, particularly the Hunt for the Nine section. And sure, the 10th should be good. Hopefully I can leave you with some new work before I go as well.
 * Now, in answer: First, I'd think you chose right, the maps should just go under the gallery. Second, yes, cropping the infobox image should be fine, since Altaïr might be a bit distracting - just remember to link back to the original image in the info of the new file. Third, yes you are going pretty quickly, but that's to be commended. Keep it up, really, there's no complaints from me. Anyway, thanks for the updates too. =GuardDog 02:19, November 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just wanted to briefly let you know that I've finished the article, Master. Thanks. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 03:56, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...I was honestly thinking that this was a relatively short assignment, and would have given you a similar one before your next rank up. But you've expanded it well beyond my expectations - really good work. Assignment closed. :) =GuardDog 11:24, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Renaissance Assignment
Again, needs expansion and subsectioning of the History section, as well as addition of more relevant images. Landmarks section also holds OOU references.

I can't find a reference of it on the wiki, but the Florence apprentice contract from Brotherhood would be relevant here. You may want to add any known information from Embers as well.

Comments

 * Sorry if you're getting tired of locations. :p Will change it up for the next one, just for a little variety. Though really, you seem to do well in them, and as the HI chief, it seems appropriate. Good luck with this one then, apprentice. =GuardDog 11:24, November 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I really like these location assignments, :P, so don't worry about it, and as you said it helps me since I am Chief Editor of WP: Landmarks and Locations. But I just had a quick question: while I was (and still am) editing the article, I added the full Brotherhood template at the bottom (I honestly have no idea what to call that XD) and I noticed that under 'Locations,' Florence is not listed. However, the cities and locations visited during the demolition of Leonardo's machines are, so I was wondering if that template should be fixed, or if it was made that way intentionally? Thank you in advance. Nostalgia AC  Let's talk 00:22, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * (I actually don't know what to call those either XD) And huh, I never noticed. Since Venice is missing as well, I'm supposing the Cristina memories weren't included. But sure, you can edit the template page then to add them both in, seems appropriate. =GuardDog 09:38, November 10, 2011 (UTC)