Talk:Alexios

Canon protagonist for ACOD: Alexios or Kassandra?
Which choice between the male or the female protagonist is the canon one? I heard a rumor that the discarded choice will come back as an antagonist later in the game, so from a Wikipedian perspective we will have to make a choice for the articles... since Alexios is the one featured on the cover art and in the trailer, I propose to settle for Alexios for now. Until Ubi clarify the matter at some point later.Maxattac (talk) 22:19, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Players choose between Kassandra or Alexios to have as the protagonist, and regardless who they pick, the dialogue options are still the same. Like how Mass Effect has a male and female Commander Shepard, seems Ubi is following suit. And this has been confirmed by Ubi and by Scott Phillips, the Game Director for Odyssey. I admit I'm unsure how we'll address pronouns in Odyssey 's plot summary, but I think our best bet is to use "the Spartan", as it'll cover both characters. --  Darman  ( talk ) 22:56, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * It will also be interesting how will they reference them (probably "spartans") and choices we made with them (in dialogs) in future games and other following media, when it wont be possible who killed some person, done something,... Kulurak (talk) 06:51, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Can we make a share page for Alexios and Kassandra under the name of "the eagle" as they was called during the gameplay. It will be more easy for the future writing of their story.Francesco75 (talk) 06:42, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * This, or something along the lines, gets my vote, too. Would make linking stuff like "descendant of Leonidas" easier, too. Sadelyrate (siniath) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

How about, since the official reveal and E3 gameplay was all Kassandra, choose her for now? Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:25, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * In contrast, on boxart + all official promo images is Alexios. So don't think we should use her as canon, i think they will be showing both of them trought year. But we will need to find some way to do it, if rumors are correct that main antagonist of game would be protagonist you didnt choose. --Kulurak (talk) 10:22, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Currently. Before yesterday, we didn't even know about Kassandra, the chance to pick the protagonist. So would your position change if they came out with box art, a slew of promo (and other) pics featuring her? Sadelyrate (siniath) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

According to the trivia, the novelization of the game considered Kassandra to be canon, therefore shes the main character. Its a shame kinda, I was leaning towards Alexios due to his stature everything.

I did research into Greek history and there is no historical records of female heroines except for gods, not even demi-gods, in spartan culture the only way a woman could be given a headstone when she died was to die during childbirth because that was her dying in service to the state and the only reason women had a vote in spartan culture was to give there house a vote cause there husbands were away fighting wars. In Athenian culture women had no rights they could not vote, go to plays, or speak without the permission of men, women in all greek cultures were not allowed to compete in or even attend Olympics games. So it just doesn’t fit well to me yet when you go onto Assassin’s Creed Wikia they refuse to acknowledge any of this and say the developers have said that Kassandra is the Canonical Character because she’s the person that is being followed in the book yet when you look at many other novelizations they have followed other people other then the characters you played like Blackbeard, Haytham Kenway, Elise de La Serre, and Henry Greene so i dont see her being the canonical character as a good reason to wipe Alexios completly from being the main character in the game. So I feel what ever information you guys add to Kassandra's page it should also be added to Alexios' page for both to be seen as the main character.
 * Andy, all of the information you shared about Spartan and Athenian women is well known to us. The reason why we don't mention these in the articles of these two characters is, first of all, because the plot details of Kassandra is not yet known to us. For all we know, the game does accurately depict her marginalized status as a girl up until she is exiled, whereupon the story would no longer contradict the historically oppressed status of Spartan women because she is serving as an independent, stateless mercenary, not for Sparta. In other words, we do not have enough information to say how much unrealistic and historically inaccurate her role in the story is as of yet, so you must be patient.
 * Second of all, as a professional encyclopedia, we adhere strictly to proper sourcing, not our own subjective opinions. If a Ubisoft source declares that, despite players' option in the game, the canonical character and real protagonist is Kassandra, then it is Kassandra, no matter our own personal preferences. In that case, Alexios is not canonically the protagonist in Odyssey. This means that in Assassin's Creed lore, it is really Kassandra who does everything that you as the player does in Odyssey, even if you were to choose to play as Alexios instead. That is not our choice, but the choice of Ubisoft. We only document Ubisoft's choices. I am confident Alexios has a part in the canonical story as well, but it will not be as the player's story but either as a supporting character or even as the antagonist, and when the game is released, we will update it appropriately for Alexios's article to reflect the story of the character that is not chosen as the player character. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 03:56, October 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Finally, as long as Kassandra doesn't starkly contradict the historical status of Spartan woman (and from what we know of her so far, she doesn't necessarily because her heroism is committed when she is a stateless exile), then we will not mention the marginalized status of historical Spartan women in Kassandra and Alexios's articles because it's not relevant to them specifically. If Odyssey does indeed heavily contradict these historical facts about Greek women, but not through Kassandra, then that information would be acknowledged in the articles about Athens and Sparta. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 04:00, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

That makes alot of sense. I am torn on either playing as Kassandra due to her being the correct canonical or Alexios because he looks so badass and awesome.

AaronFireBird1 and AndyC89, in the future, please remember to sign all your messages with four tildes: ~, so that it is clear who wrote which comment. As well, do not leave unnecessary spaces between messages. There should only be one blank line between each message. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 03:56, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

What i am trying to explain is yes Kassandra is the main character of the Novel but I'm trying to to give you any spoilers but fine Kassandra is the leader of the cult the book follows her rise as the cult leader while the game follows Alexios as he tries to destroy the cult the books have taken this route in the past as well following Haytham Kenway and Following Elise De La Serre so in the game if you play it canonically Alexios is the main character and Kasandra is the younger sister who runs the cult. AndyC89 (talk) 05:04, October 2, 2018 (UTC)AndyC89