User talk:Sadelyrate

Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. -- Master Sima Yi (Talk) 10:33, January 3, 2013

Advice
Instead of editing sections and making them past tense, you can edit the entire page. Kooala Cupcake. -  Leave me a message!  14:00, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I know. But I chose to edit in sections just in case the browser/computer decides to crash in the middle of, or worse, at the end of a bigger edit spree. ;) Sadelyrate (talk) 14:07, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me fix the Idun page. Really appreciate it.

Damn, you're going crazy with the edits today lolLost Fragment (talk) 12:21, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Had time, had the inclination, cleaned up coding. More informative edits to follow, hopefully. :) Sadelyrate (talk) 06:50, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

03:26, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me that Add Photo doesn't have the form preferred. I think I fixed what I'd uploaded; I'll take better care in the future. Sadelyrate (talk) 08:01, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

Good jorb.
Good job on TLA images. One question, was that heavy film grain effect seen in some shots actually present during the memory? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  19:24, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are parts in the memories that... are rather curious, including occasionally having that film grain-like effect; the only thing I've done to the screenshots is to crop out the black borders. I'm working on getting the rest up in a moment. Sadelyrate (talk) 19:35, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * We need Desmond's Journey ones too, apparently. You're game for it? --Kainzorus Prime Walkie-talkie  18:51, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * On them. :) Sadelyrate (talk) 18:58, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

Apprenticeship
Whereas the Apprenticeship is not needed to become a member of the staff team, it is a great way to improve your editing skills. You have shown yourself to be a valuable editor already, but we of the Bureau think you can be even better, hence this invitation. Nesty Contact me! 19:49, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is an honour. Due to things not entirely in my control, I'd feel better to give this the consideration it deserves, and will be in touch via the appropriate channels. Sadelyrate (siniath) 16:41, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Collectables/Collectibles
Hey, Sadelyrate

You're uh, not the first to have tried adding a "collectibles" category, but in previous instances, it's always been deleted by Sima, because "collectibles" is a kind of OOU term. I don't see this being any different, but perhaps talk to Sima as to why this category isn't accepted. In the mean time, it might be a good idea to stop adding articles to the collectibles category. Sorry for bothering ^^; Crookandcharlatan (talk) 09:31, August 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * My mistake, hopefully understandable. Oh well, I'll just go and undo it. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 09:32, August 25, 2013 (UTC)

Paladin3510's image
Like I said in my response to your comment, I have put the correct sourcing in place at the image location. However, I have now also messaged Paladin3510 via deviantart to ask his permission anyway. I don't think it is 'legally required', but I didn't even think of that tbph.

Greetings,

Actually, it is "legally required." That's more or less what copyright's all about.

Related to this, there's you licensing the picture under CC. Unless the artist has licensed the artwork thus, you've committed a greater crime than simple theft; you've essentially claimed that you have the right to control the artwork's distribution.

The image is properly sourced, yes. However, sourcing <> permission. Since we live in the world that we do, there is no excuse to neglect asking an artist (alive, online) for permission to use their artwork. In any way, shape or form. For all anyone can know, the picture you've chosen to use (since it "seemed to fit") is a picture the artist made for their own personal use, of their own character. (Also posted here for, hopefully, closure's sake; methinks we should reserve conversation for one thread, though.) Sadelyrate (siniath) 07:09, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Madeleine de L'Isle
Hey Sade,

I'm going to expand the Madeleine de L'Isle article pretty soon, but I noticed you'd left a message on her talkpage at some point:


 * "There's really nothing known about Madeleine's life before the part she played in Liberation? Her surname just makes me wonder..."

And it sorta made me wonder what you meant in regards to her surname. I'm actually quite interested to see if her name carries more meaning than you'd think (and, as to why the creators decided to name her as such). I've just googled her name and all I came up with is the "Îles de la Madeleine" or Magdalen Islands, which are part of the Canadian province of Quebec. I just wanted to know if that's what you were referring to as well, or if you had hit upon something else. As a sidenote, her database entry does confirm that she was born in New Orleans.

Thanks for reading :) 20:13, April 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * My wonderings were because I'd run into and the De L'Isle family. Nothing that had any relevance to any of the games, but just something that had piqued my curiosity. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 17:47, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hi!
Heya, Sade. How's it going? You still around? -- 21:20, July 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Around occasionally, yeah. Active... not even close. Came to take a look due to a sudden spell of nostalgia. ;) Sadelyrate (siniath) 11:06, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

It can be know why you are deleting the information?
If you do not give me a reason I will not stop. Egyth98 13:49, July 13, 2018 (UTC)Egyth90 (talk)
 * If this is about Khaliset, then it's because while she knew about Those Who Came Before (First Civilization, Isu), we cannot know the extent of her knowledge. Sadelyrate (siniath) 13:52, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Egyptian mythology
Not sure if you think you're funny, or you're just being rude, but the message you posted as changelog in your edit on the page Egyptian mythology was quite unnecessary. I'm not amused. I've written that article all by myself, with no help whatsoever and English isn't my main language. My English isn't bad, it's just with such a big article that i'm so focussed on the content I oversee some language discrepanties. It's not easy to have the story in your head in your own language, and having translate it to English and making sure the syntax of the sentences is correct.

Calling the language "atrocious" is an atrocious act on its own. Kennyannydenny (talk) 11:30, August 13, 2018 (UTC)


 * Pray tell, what information in that article did I delete that was not against the Manual of Style of this Wiki? What I did was to make the article better fit the guidelines laid out in that, help where I could, at least a little.
 * As for calling the language atrocious... well, English isn't my main language either. It might not have been the best word to describe it, but at that moment, that day, I felt it best described it.
 * To be honest, I'm surprised this Wiki even has an article by that name, given that there aren't similar ones for Greco-Roman, Chinese or, say, Native American mythologies. Sadelyrate (siniath) 16:03, August 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about your changes, I'm fine with those, they really did improve the article. I was talking about the unfriendly words in the summary. Kennyannydenny (talk) 08:59, August 14, 2018 (UTC)


 * I think that Sadelyrate really was a bit blunt at the spur of the moment, a common error that many of us have made. However, at the same time, he wasn't entirely unjustified for being so alarmed by the state of the article, and I really appreciate him going over it and fixing it. I, myself, can get that anxious when I see an article loaded with syntax and grammar errors, so I understand the feeling. Of course, the edit summary could have been politer, and we should always remember to not sound too agitated because this can indeed come across as rude and unwelcoming to new users. As well, we should always try our best to be patient about the fact different users have varying levels of English. But I'm sure it wasn't Sadel's intention to insult anyone in particular because he was unlikely to be aware that there was a sole author and who that was; his harsh words were directed at the article alone. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 01:29, August 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, I interpreted it as not at all hostile, but just anxious. Your hard work on the article is stilll much appreciated Kenny. :) Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 01:31, August 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, me too. I also appreciate the fact that he improved the article. He can be as alarmed as he likes, some people do really hate grammer errors. Me too in fact, and if I would've spotted them, I would've fixed them. It's just, after you wrote a long text, and read over it dozens and dozens of times for content errors and gramatical erorrs, you tend to overlook things. And I put a lot of work in that article. As long as he's being polite, it's all fine by me. We're a wiki so people may change everything if they'd think it'd improve things. I just couldn't stand the summary, and for me, it did sound really unfriendly. But we'll keep it at this. I couldn't let it slide completely as I wouldn't have slept otherwise last night (I do take things people say to heart, even though I don't know you personally), but let's just forget it. I'm sorry Sadelyrate I reacted the way I did, I grew up with people bickering and being sarcastic around me, so I tend to take things personally. Kennyannydenny (talk) 08:59, August 14, 2018 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I do apologize for using that word. It was truly aimed at the text, not the writer (didn't realize it was the work of just one person), and badly chosen. For my part, will try to be more courteous in the future, even if anxious or something. Sadelyrate (siniath) 11:08, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

Ah Tabai
I saw your recent edits on his page. Is there any concrete evidence that his name is just an alias? I know in most cultures the names or deities don’t get used but my grandfather is named Jesus so there are some exceptions. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 06:37, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's from his Database entry: "Named for the Mayan god of hunting, Ah Tabai's given name remains a mystery-" Agreed, though, that that might not mean anything.Sadelyrate (siniath) 06:43, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * That seems a pretty good inference then, I didn’t know his database entry said that. I feel that his intro paragraph should address this but the ambiguity makes it hard. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:07, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

Titling of residency categories
Hey Sadel, just noticed your creation of the "Category:Residents of Memphis", and I just wanted to let you know that actually, it would be better for it to be named "Category:Memphites". (Wikipedia says that the demonyn of Memphis, Tennessee is Memphian but Wiktionary & other usual sources on Egypt says the demonym of Memphis, Egypt is Memphite... but I'm not entirely sure between the two...) When preferable, a demonym should always be used because it is simply more concise. This goes with "Category:Residents of Siwa" as well. It really should just be "Category:Siwans", but I have not found the time to correct this yet. When creating categories by a city or town, you should only title it with the word "residents" if there isn't a known demonym on hand you can use to summarize it in a single word. Villa Auditore would be such a case because demonyms aren't usually used for a single estate. I'm not so sure about Masyaf since I don't know if we can figure out the correct demonym for it. For that matter, the very old category of "Davenport Homestead residents" should also be renamed to "Davenport Homesteaders" when we have the time.

Anyway, I do really appreciate you for taking the time to create these categories! :) Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 07:11, September 17, 2018 (UTC)
 * Tbh, didn't even know a term like 'Memphite' or ('Memphian' for that matter) was plausible. :D If/When I have the time and inclination, I'll get around to fixing them. Thanks for pointing that out! Sadelyrate (siniath) 07:20, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Twelve Olympians
Hi there. Can you advise your source for this article? --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:16, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * Source as in in-game canon? Unfortunately, not yet. But given everything that's in, say, the Egyptian mythology-article, this seemed a plausible article to create, given the number of Olympians already mentioned/featured in the franchise. My apologies if I misstepped.Sadelyrate (siniath) 11:20, September 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * Whilst I personally disagree with the existence of an article on Egyptian mythology, I will say that it uses information from a verifiable and, more importantly, released, source. It's entirely possible, even likely, that the "Twelve Olympians" will be mentioned in Odyssey, but to create an article before the game has been released is speculative. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:28, September 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * Agreed on it being speculative. To be honest, what I've seen of that Egyptian mythology-article's evolution, a lot of it has been added later, and some of it is still iffy as far as the in-game canon goes. But let's remove the Twelve Olympians, at least for now; I should've thought about it a bit more. Apologies for that.Sadelyrate (siniath) 14:35, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Hello
So you are the famous Sadelyrate should I call you Sal or Sadelyrate? :P

Daryurian ( The Mighty Turian ) 06:41, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sal is good. :) (Famous? What?) Sadelyrate (siniath) 06:45, October 11, 2018 (UTC)
 * Lmao so humble :P Daryurian ( The Mighty Turian ) 07:34, October 11, 2018 (UTC)

Nickname
Hi Sade. I've noticed that you've been replacing the Conjecture tabs on a lot of articles to Nickname today. Please note that is only for those articles where the title is a "nickname, title, or alias." Many of the articles you've been editing are actually under conjectural titles (i.e. titles we've given them, rather than in-universe nicknames), such as Sumerian Sage, Roman Assassin, Galeazzo Maria Sforza's bodyguard, Templar Admiral (1735) (and practially any other article title with a date in parenthesis) and so the moves are incorrect.

I'll be reverting those moves, but please make a note of this in future. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:32, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad. Apologies for the mess.Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:33, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. As I said, only a few of your edits were incorrect - a lot of them were prefectly valid changes, and so i've left those ones. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:40, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, it is actually nice to know that the Wiki's watched, and errors are quickly fixed. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:41, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Question
Hey Sadelyrate, I have a question. What do you think we should do with support quests? Someone has linked all three support quests of The Athenian Leader to that page, so i've added the descriptions there. But it seems like other support quests like A Venomous Encounter and Escape from Athens (if i understand our quests template correctly) have their own page. I just created a page for The Goddesses' Hunt side quest and added all descriptions there. But we might want to decide to split these up. Not sure what to do as Raylan13 has linked those support quests to the main quest in the case of The Athenian Leader, but has made a separate page for A Venomous Encounter. I'm lost.... As you're very active and I know you always have good ideas I thought i'd ask you. Maybe it's also worth inviting an admin or whatever. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:30, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * On one hand, treating the support quests merely as goals for a bigger quest would make sense. On the other... they're like sidequests, and I'd be almost tempted to treat them as such (so under their own title in the Memory-template). However, I'd advise you to turn to one of the admins. They're here for questions like these. Though I'm active (now), I'm just a grunt. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 17:36, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same thing. I've also poked Jasca Ducato as he's active at this moment and is staff, and also poked Sol Pacificus. I'm curious to see what they think is the right solution. Kennyannydenny (talk) 17:42, October 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * See also here! Ps. sorry for the spam. Kennyannydenny (talk) 18:42, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Granadin category
Sadel, I fear you were too hasty with the Granadin article. For one thing, we had had a discussion a couple of years before regarding the proper demonym for Granada and had settled on Granadan as the one that appears the most in Google searches and also attested by, at the very least, Wiktionary. In fact, we had suspected that Granadin as it appears in might even have been a typo since it is less attested. In any case, there was much uncertainty about it, but either way, because it was controversial between users, I am uncomfortable with this abrupt name change of the category even though I know you were just doing your best to use the right demonym.

Also, I should point out that Granada is not a city, but it was a nationality of its own, and it also should not go under Spaniards because the Emirate of Granada was its own sovereign state that was conquered by the Kingdoms of Castile and Aragon, two other sovereign states, before they fully merged into the Kingdom of Spain. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 22:43, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

Some clarification: the original category you were replacing referred to the nationality of the Emirate of Granada. I just realized that you were likely thinking of the city of Granada itself. I do not know how we might distinguish categories of both the city and the country. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 22:45, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry, I did not notice that the category Granadans had never been actually created despite the pages added to it, thereby explaining that prompt switchover. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 23:10, October 18, 2018 (UTC)


 * I still think Granadin is correct, and it’s what was used by historian Will Durant. But mainly I agree that we need to come up with a way to distinguish between nationality and residentiality of city-states and basically revamp that whole set of category pages including ethnicities. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 03:59, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed. My apologies for this all. If the Granadans-category had been created, I'd've left it alone. As an aside...I really dislike it when two different things have identical names (Granada). Makes things all the more bloody confusing. Sadelyrate (siniath) 06:03, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * Lacrosse, did you mean that we should use Granadin as the demonym for the city and Granadan as the demonym for the former country? And I suppose both might be valid, in which case, it shouldn't matter too much which we use. However, we really should have categories for both, and... while it might not be technically correct to do this... I can't say I'd be averse if we did just use the different demonyms for both... Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 09:11, October 19, 2018 (UTC)
 * I had initially thought that a category for residents of the city of Granada was unnecessary because many characters from that city are also simultaneously nationals of Granada with a few exceptions of characters being from the country but not the city. However, with the addition a lot more Moors from Rebellion, there might be several more characters affiliated with the country but not the city now, going off of my memory. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 09:17, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

Theban Categorisation
Hey Sade, I would like to see your thoughts and opinions regarding the Theban category. Please do take a look here if you have the time. Thank you :D XOdeyssusx (talk) 09:52, October 30, 2018 (UTC)

Heracles name in Greek
Hey saw you linked the Greek spelling to wikitionary. Noticed it added an apostrophe/glottal stop to the first letters. I think that’s a Wikipedia thing to distinguish it from similar looking Latin letters but not actually present in the original way of writing it. That’s just a guess though so do you know anything about it?Lacrossedeamon (talk) 09:36, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * That's not a matter of distinguishing. The original, uncontracted form is Ἡρακλέης. The apostrophe/glottal stop is there to signify a silent letter: something you don't really write or say, but whose presence has to be acknowledged. Sadelyrate (siniath) 10:01, November 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * I wasnt sure if Ancient Greek writing conventions included diacritics. Looked it up, it’s actually called a rough breathing (I had just assumed glottal stop and is kinda its opposite) denoting an added 'h' sound to the word. The one in front of the other name curving the other way, a smoothe breathing, is more like a glottal stop. They’ve been dropped from modern conventions which was what messed me up. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 10:20, November 3, 2018 (UTC)