User talk:Altaïr

General Talk
Hi, welcome to Assassin's Creed Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Maria page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Hells Angel (Talk) 02:26, 21 May 2009

Hey. You can't correct spelling in a file link, that breaks them. Check the Piece of Eden page and see if you can find what you did wrong. -- D. Cello 21:55, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * The POE page has been completely rewritten, so you wouldn't find it by now. But i is completelly different from ï. They are two different characters. If there's a link to a file called altairpicture.jpg and you change the link to altaïrpicture.jpg, he won't find the file, cause it isn't the right name. Got it? -- D. Cello 20:09, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

And sign your posts with 4 tildes. -- D. Cello 20:10, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm not angry. And the edit summary indicated that change of name file under your name, that's why you was contacted. Just be careful with those file names, you have no idea how much categorization and file problems we had with small typos x.x -- D. Cello 15:22, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Al, I'm giving you rollback rights. You can find more info here. Make good use of them. -- D. Cello 03:55, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do my best to do so. -- Altaïr March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Thanks for reverting that edit to my user page. ;D btw, the guy is banned from wiki XD -- D. Cello 15:53, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. He also vandalized my page. Luckily I got an e-mail too about your page being changed by an unknown user, so I checked and reverted it immediately. Well it's in these occasions that the rollback comes in handy. So thanks for that. -- Altaïr 16:57, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Al, when you up a image make sure to change its name to something that makes sense and describe it, like "altair killing templar.jpg" instead of "avasdbasasbjassak.jpg". It makes the listing of files and organization easier. ;D - D. Cello 21:29, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'll rename them next time I upload them... If I don't forget... My memory aint the best lol -- Altaïr 00:43, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

So, Al. How are you liking being a sysop? -- D. Cello 04:48, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Lol at this moment I don't feel like I have made a big enough mark yet, to call myself a sysop. - Altaïr 11:37, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Al. I would like you to read this page and give some tought about it. Take some time, and them contact me on my talk page with whenever came up on your mind, okay? Thanks. -- D. Cello 03:55, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well one thing I can think of is when I read about 'users like to be recognized'... Well we got a community link where you see the forum, the staff etc on... Then why don't we also put one for the high contributors themselves on that list. A list that displays all their names on it and icons similar to the staff page, which I think will only motivate them to do more, cause say if someone is inactive for a long time, we remove them. But you have to put a timeline on it, a limit. But I think it will keep them going only to be seen on that list. -- Altaïr 11:17, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting... Don't know about the picture, but a list for top editors (excluding we sysops) is a great idea. Listen, since activity here is going back up again, somewhere in the next month I plan to make our first staff meeting. We'll sort out the time tables (since we have people from all over the world) to schedule it when all or most can take part. It will have plenty of advertising before too. I'll keep you posted on the details as I create them, make an effort to be there. -- D. Cello 03:03, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Two things, one is a recomendation: You should change the featured article at least every week. And two: Is your wife really called Maria Thorpe.--Le Vulpe
 * Well D.Cello is the main admin here, so he decides what appears on the main page. He does change the content from time to time. I'm sure he has a reason why he doesn't change it often. And no Maria Thorpe is the nickname of my wife on this wiki. She chose it for obvious reasons of course. -- Altaïr 01:21, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why did eliminate my post on the timeline,please answer.Le Vulpe 00:32, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why did eliminate my post on the timeline,please answer.Le Vulpe 00:32, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Al Mualim was likely based on the person you mentionned, but in the end they are not the same person, so it's not Assassin's Creed related. -- Altaïr 02:31, July 29, 2010 (UTC) About the main page... I have a kind of schedule for it, but I need a admin or Istruttori to help me set it and change it often. -- D. Cello 01:28, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Rectifiying: I'm the bureaucraut here. Means I outrule everybody's ass =P
 * Yep, that's the word I was looking for... Bureaucrat... That it all right lol --Altaïr 03:28, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Al, your signature links to Altaïr's article, not your page. Btw, meet me at IRC when possible? -- D. Cello 18:51, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Penny Arcade Comic

 * Al, you have the Penny arcade comic? -- D. Cello 16:46, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I do, but you can also find it online in the link I put in the references -- Altaïr 18:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Only two pages x.x -- D. Cello 17:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that sucks. Well I could scan the pages if you want to lol -- Altaïr 19:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was gonna ask you that XD Yes, please =] -- D. Cello 17:12, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Here, I added it to my Altaïr fanpage on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=187287&id=66898181374&saved#!/pages/Altair/66898181374 -- Altaïr 19:37, July 28, 2010 (UTC) That whole "He see his face on yours" thing... you think it implies Al Mualim is Altaïr's father? oO -- D. Cello 17:47, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Al! XD

You never know... He did raise him... -- Altaïr 19:52, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just a note here; there is a much higher quality version on the penny arcade site if you're interested. :)

http://www.penny-arcade.com/presents/assassinscreed/

T h i e f  14:04, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi there,

Seeing as we have a shortage of active admins here, I was wondering if you would Endorse me and another user for admin/crat ship in order to get this wiki rolling again. Thanks, MacMed 02:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Altair / Ezio
this is Ezio Aditore da Firenze how are things in the third crusade

Sucks... Maria is giving me a hard time cause she's on her period again!!!!

OT: Dragonball
So you like Gohan, eh? I'm more of a Goku fan, but I practically like any Saiyan and main villain. The reason I like Ezio better is because of his cape and added weapons. As a person, I like Ezio still because he doesn't seem to have as much arrogance as Altair did in the beginning of the first game. I'm actually playing the first game now, and I still have to assassinate Jubair Al-Hakim. 01:35, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I was more of a Goku fan in the beginning, but when Gohan turned Super Saiyan two I was sold on him. And I started to really like him when he became a teenager, though not when he was acting goofy like in the Saiyaman saga. Well in case of Ezio and Altaïr, I really don't dig the cape, seriously! I almost hate it! I just think it ruins the outfit. As for personality. I agree, Altaïr was arrogant, but he learned great wisdom and hummility by becoming demoted. Ezio in all these years barely changes until he learns the truth. - Altaïr January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Paranoid, Hippy parents
It still sounds subjective, from Desmond's point of view. It is not mentioned in game, and strategy guides are not canonical. They are written by an outside source. AgentValentine 14:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I asked D.Cello considered the strategy guide to be canon. He said yes when we were talking about Maria's profile in it. He said they were approved by Ubisoft and considered canon.Altaïr

I disagree, but if DC says so, fine. But it needs to be rephrased, because it is still objective. Try "tired of his parents traditionalist Assassin views." Just because a 16 year old kid thinks his parents are paranoid hippies doesn't mean they are. AgentValentine 14:22, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I don't want to get into an arguement, so I'll change it into something that fits the profile, but still based on what the strategy guide states - Altaïr

That sounds better. :) If you don't mind, I'd like to fix the sentence structure a little bit. AgentValentine 14:46, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sure... Be my guest. Altaïr

Proposed attribution policy
Hello there, I recently took the time to create a Watercooler forum post detailing my proposed attribution policy, which I hope the wiki will be willing to adopt by this time next week. If you could be so kind as to look over the policy and cast your vote (or comment on any changes) you can do so by following this link; Forum:Sourcing articles. Also, would you kindly pass on this post too as many users as possible, so that the vote might represent the true number of contributors to the wiki. Thank you. User:Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 15:34, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Couple of questions
Ok, so I beat the first Assassin's Creed and I was wondering if you can clear some stuff up for me:

1) How do I assassinate Robert de Sable at Arsuf in the same manner as it is shown in his picture on this article?

2) How do we know Altair became the Grand Master of the Assassins (if it is cleared up in Assassin's Creed II, try to explain without spoilers)?

3) Is there anything to do after the credits beside revisiting the Animus and looking at the symbols?

22:20, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

1) I'm not sure where the problem is. You mean you want to stab him? Doesn't that happen automatically when you win the fight?

2) Well it is revealed, but I'm not even sure if that was in bloodlines or ACII, but there can be no doubt about it.

3) No there's nothing else to do, I think you can enter another room, with a different computer, where you might read more concerning the pieces of eden and their location. Other than that there's nothing left to do I think Altaïr February 25, 2010 (UTC))


 * In the picture it shows Altair stabbing him in a much different fashion then when you stab other assassination targets in the back. Do you have any idea on how to do this? 02:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Myeah I'm sorry but I don't think I can help you with that. Maybe it depends of where you stand or I think it's possible because he is only fighting with his hidden blade. I'm not sure if that is possible, though I am sure you can fight with the hidden blade in the second one. Cause if you fight only with your sword, then it automatically switches like to a video where he gets stabbed with the hidden blade anyway, so maybe that doesn't happen when you just use the hidden blade, though I can't remember if that is possible. From what I remember if you tried it, when an enemy saw you they would always block your arms and prevent you from stabbing him.Altaïr February 26, 2010 (UTC)) And sign your posts. -- D. Cello 02:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm the author of that awesome kill. XD It was performed doing a counter-attack with the hidden blade. My friend took the screen. Pretty cool, huh?? ;D

Ok thank you D. Cello. My signature gets all f**ked up if I sign anywhere else besides the Dragon Ball wiki. 02:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

To help with
Hey Cedric since you'rre the main person to correct what I write in the Maria Thorpe page, do you think it's a good idea for me to leave it alone? PassiveNeoluna 00:35, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. I mean, if I say so myself, we make a good team. You're a very dedicated writer here on this Wikia and you're very good. I'm from time to time just correcting spelling mistakes, but my grammar isn't fantastic, which you are far better in. So that's something I would surely like to have you on board with for. -- Altaïr March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then I'll keep doing whatever I'm doing. I try to be accurate with content, though I'm mainly a grammar editor. By the way, do you know which is the proper tense used for Wikia? Past or present? PassiveNeoluna 01:19, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Past imo. I mean we're talking about historical figures or fictional figures from the past. However I'm not sure if we should do the same for the present, which is actually the future. (2012) When we write about Desmond and such, should we write in present? Let's leave it past for now I think. -- Altaïr March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks for clarifying. PassiveNeoluna 01:32, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

2012 is the present. All rest is past. -- D. Cello 23:13, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

So an article like Desmond's, should it be written in present tense? Cause after all we are telling a story that already happened in the games. So it's like it already happened. It depends on the context I guess. If you're talking about the content of the games I would keep it in past tense, but to talk about his personality and such, then we could place it in present tense, just to make it clear that 2012 is the present, as you said. -- Altaïr March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Al, I've got an idea. Talk to Master Sima and ask if you can work together on a wiki policy about the proper tense for the wiki, similar to the sourcing policy Jasca proposed a few weeks ago. I remember he corrected a lot of those grammar things moths back, maybe he's up to help it. Say I gave you green light to do it, with no deadline. Just get to it if and when you can and make one, alright? -- D. Cello 00:47, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I left him a message about it on his 'talk' page. -- Altaïr 2:14 March 11, 2010 (UTC)

It's odd when I talk, I happen to bring up an editing issue involving you, your fiance and D Cello *sigh*. I'll help with re-revising the pages if a proper policy takes place. PassiveNeoluna 06:05, March 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you want to help with the policy and Al and Sima are okay with it, be my guest. =] -- D. Cello 18:25, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Past or Present Tense
Ah, you're Belgian. Do you speak Dutch then? Or just French? 'Cause I'm Dutch and I guess it'd be a lot easier to speak Dutch when communicating then. :P

And yes, I totally agree with you. I have been trying to 'update' pages to past format, though it's quite some work if you have to do it alone (though lately I haven't been that active here because of other things). I'd love to help you with putting the pages in the past tense. If there is something else I can help you with, just ask. -- Master Sima Yi 07:52, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'm Belgian, from the Flemish side. So yes, I speak Dutch. But I think we should continue in English lol. Otherwise it wouldn't really be fair to other members lol. But thanks for you input. If I see any pages that are still written in present tense then I'll try to update it myself. -- Altaïr 13:25, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually talking in English isn't fair to us either, actually. 'Cause now we have to talk in a foreign language, which is hardER than speaking in our original language :P. Though I get what you mean. -- Master Sima Yi 14:04, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Other than language standards, is there a definite agreement on the policy? PassiveNeoluna 04:25, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, actually, there is *no* policy whatsoever. x.x -- D. Cello 04:51, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't mean we can't create one. Only I'm pretty inexperienced with this. It seems Master Sima Yi seems to be quite occupied to make one as the other he created... I don't know. But maybe I could make this policy if I base it on the one he did create. Where could I find it? -- Altaïr 12:20, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

There's no hurry to do the policy. Just think about and when you guys think it's good, post it. Since it's a policy, it will become wiki guidelines, so it's kind of important. Must be well written and formed too. -- D. Cello 15:40, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Istruttorium
Hey, Al. I'm scaling you up to Istruttore, if okay with you. We gonna need another admin soon, and who knows, you might be it. -- D. Cello 04:24, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's fine with me... If it just isn't an april fool's joke lol. -- Altaïr 20:49, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Damn, I totally forgot about April 1st x.x

See, Al? I told you it wasn't April's Fools prank XD Since you're very active, maybe you wanna give a hand at the Blood of a Templar project? And man, the wiki's getting pretty inactive x.x Lot of main members are going into wikibreak. -- D. Cello 16:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll take a look at it. -- Altaïr 18:52, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Istruttori Guild
Welcome to the Istruttori. You now have the honor to use a Istruttore Badge on your profile, just insert on top of the page. Information about your duties and a list of fellow companions of the team can be acessed at the Istruttori project page. As a Istruttore, you also have acess to the rollback function, which allows you to revert vandalisms or bad-faith edits with one click, on a quickier and pratical way. Safety and peace. -- D. Cello 18:52, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be a real pity to remove that badge, D. Cello... Just sayin' with being april the 1st lol. Anyway thx for the promotion. I'll see to it that I can make myself useful for the Istruttore. -- Altaïr 21:12, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

No, no. I already added you to the istruttori listings and staff panel. I'm sure wouldn't go through all that trouble just to change it tomorrow... or would I? ._.

Anyway, you can add to the infoboxes if you want, too. -- D. Cello 19:19, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Al. Think you can meet me at the IRC Channel in about 10 minutes? -- D. Cello 14:34, April 12, 2010 (UTC) Hey. I changed the settings and now the IRC bips when someone lefts me a message, so no more 30 minutes delay between messages. =P I am already implemeting things, when you're avaiable to talk log in and I'll fill you in. -- D. Cello 17:51, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm there -- Altaïr 17:58, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Guys, User:The Theif is your newest fellow Istruttore. Give him a warm welcome!(and pranks, hit on his sister, kick his dog and all that) ;D -- D. Cello 15:13, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

How you Relate to the AC Characters
If find it quite surprising how you bear many similarites with the AC2 character Ezio Auditore da Firenze. And from a 30-year old, I didn't know you had so much time for gaming, despite the fact that adults have to deal with alot of work nowadays. Reason? FPS Headhunter LASER GUNS BEW BEW!!!! :D 20:35, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simple I don't work... I just enjoy life as it is... There is another reason, but that one I'd like to keep private Altaïr 22:40, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

AC3

Where is it going to be set and when is it coming out?DORANBROS123 18:16, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * There are no actual facts where it is set and when, but there's a lot of speculation. You can read more about it in the Assassin's Creed III article. Altaïr 20:32, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

My DeviantArt Link
Here it is Cedric, and congrats on the promotion :) --PassiveNeoluna 04:40, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah so you know about that. Not sure I deserve it, but I am glad I can give an extra hand to the wiki.:) --Altaïr 06:55, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
Cedric a disrespectful user vandalised my user page, could you roll it back to when I last edited it? PassiveNeoluna 00:32, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind I fixed it myself, but the user should locked for awhile. PassiveNeoluna 00:37, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay and thanks for fixing my page when you did. PassiveNeoluna 00:53, April 20, 2010 (UTC) Al, do you need help with banning and blocking users? Call me if you have any doubts. ;D -- D. Cello 01:08, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I fixed one earlier, who replaced a line with 'I DON'T CARE!' on your page. I don't know what else had been done. Unfortunately unregistered users can't be banned that easily from the wikia --Altaïr 02:40, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually they can, and I did it. He shouldn't be a problem anymore, Neoluna.


 * Yeah some education how to ban unregistered users would be welcome in case there's more vandalism. I've already dealt with it a lot, but I've never been able to ban anyone, cause most of them commiting vandalism are unregistered users. --Altaïr 03:17, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure.

Under the "Contributions" bar in a user page, you can find the following: From the Assassin's Creed Wiki For "USERorIPhere" (Talk | block | block log | logs | Deleted user contributions) Clicking the block button, you are taked to a page with the user's name/IP, the duration you want to block (or ban) them, the reason why and other options. Even if someone isn't registered, you can do exactly the same for the same effect. -- D. Cello 01:25, April 20, 2010 (UTC) So, yeah, choose how long you think it's worth. Vandals don't add anything to us anyway. -- D. Cello 04:59, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay thx, and how long do you usually ban someone for vandalism? Is it permanently, depending if they are registered or not? -- Altaïr 03:31, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't follow a policy for it. Usually when it's an offensive or extensive vand, or when there's a removal of content, I block for a year. Only very minor things like title changes to non offensive words are blocked with 3 days or a week by me. But Silver has a different choice of lenght, I usually only enter the action when heavy action is needed.

Al, remember: every time you revert a vandalism, you have to block the vandal. -- D. Cello 01:41, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for correcting my mistakes and um if you do have time, could you check on my corrections in the Auditore Villa page, I tried to revamp it since it changed status. PassiveNeoluna 21:23, April 25, 2010 (UTC) Okay so should I leave a message for D.Cello to reconsider the status change? PassiveNeoluna 21:55, April 25, 2010 (UTC) I'll do so, excluding the Istruttori votes, do I ask for the approval of a bureaucrat if I think an article needs to change status all the time? --PassiveNeoluna 22:17, April 25, 2010 (UTC) Just dropped in to say thanks for changing the pic, btw do you mind that I call you by your real name or I should stick to your username? PassiveNeoluna 18:41, May 26, 2010 (UTC) My name has been in my userpage for a while now, it's Anna. And no need to apologize, it's not that I don't like Maria as my staff pic, (it's actually flattering you picked her since she's one of my very favorite characters) it's just that I think my staff pic should be more associated with my personality, and Claudia is closest to how I am at times. :) PassiveNeoluna 20:18, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I checked it and the revamp was very good. I only found one spelling error. Except for that I didn't see any mistakes. Good job! - Altaïr 23:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I would ask it first. Imo it can be changed, however I don't think I have the final word in this. - Altaïr 00:05, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well D.Cello is the only Bureaucrat. So it is safe to ask him first yes. Btw if you have the time. Could you take a look at this article. It's still in the work, but if you could check the grammar on it, I would appreciate it: Rise and Fall of Altaïr - Altaïr 00:21, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edit of the Article. Looks much better! - Altaïr 01:47, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I would prefer it if you called me by my actual name... I only don't do it with you because I don't know yours. I should have asked it sooner... Maybe you could drop it? And yeah I replaced your picture quickly. It was my mistake to assume that you would like Maria as your picture. I just thought so because of what I I saw in your gallery on deviantart Altaïr 21:54, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, for your help, I've never joined a wiki, and am still having problems with my signature it's cause of my pc settings, and is the (UTC) thing standard for all posts Emorales 23:08, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol I'm an admin, and I don't even know what that stands for, but I do know that you have to add it to your signature. It's just a small detail. Anyway have fun on the wiki! -- Altaïr 01:13, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

The Timeline
From what I could tell, there are some run-on sentences and I think I have to revise some content, if I change it too much be sure correct it. PassiveNeoluna 23:15, April 25, 2010 (UTC) No prob, drop a note in my talk page if I can help with anything else okay? PassiveNeoluna 23:50, April 25, 2010 (UTC) I didn't do anything too big, I just corrected the spelling of Garnier de Naplouse. PassiveNeoluna 22:23, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edit of the Article. Looks much better! - Altaïr 01:47, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do, thx again. - Altaïr 02:01, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

IRC
Al, can you meet me on the IRC? -- D. Cello 23:08, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Master Assassin
Ezio is een master assassin in AC: Brotherhood, geen grand master. Dat is de rede waarom hij geen zwarte kleding draagt: omdat het niet hetzelfde is. -- Master Sima Yi 15:16, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ik ben niet zo bekend met de ranken in the brotherhood. Maar ik blijf op wat ik zei. Ezio is nu een master assassin. En hij draagt niet Altaïr's armor, of het uniform dat hij draagt bij het figuur dat je bij de black edition krijgt, omdat het teveel opvalt. Hij draagt een nieuw wit uniform omdat Altaïr wit droeg en hijzelf wit droeg wanneer hij begon te te trainen als een Assassin. Maar nu is hij master assassin, dus kan je hem niet in hetzelfde uniform steken van ACII. -- Altaïr 15:04, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Vacation & Wedding

 * Well I'm just letting you know now that I'll be in Scotland for a month (exactly from 5th of June - 15th of July), so I won't have access to my computer that keeps me updated, but I will have a very rare access to a computer. Cause I have to make further planning on my wedding in September -- -- Altaïr 11:29, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Al, to let you know: Sima's one of us now. ;D -- D. Cello 16:24, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Al, you work with photoshop, right? -- D. Cello 20:53, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be too nosy, but I think he's still gone in his trip. But I think he does a lot of work with photoshop with all of his work in deviantart. a Lunatic 21:09, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, crap. I forgot about the trip. Thanks, Neoluna. ;D -- D. Cello 21:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still in Scotland, but I heard from Anna you needed some help with photoshop, so tell me what it is. Maybe I can help. But it could take a while, cause I'm not on the computer often. Mostly I just check my things and turn it off. ButI'll see what I can do, but I can't promise anything. -- Altaïr 13:43, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * ~Thanks for answering, Al. You know some of the characters database pictures, that have more than one people in the picture i.e. The Pazzi Conspirators? I would like you to create images with each individual character highlited, so we can put it on their respective articles. As if the character was in full color and all the others a little faded. But hey, go enjoy your vacation/marriage/honeymoon (or whatever you're having) ;D -- D. Cello 17:09, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the pictures requested. I added some light and contrast with the people in question. The background was darkened and saturated so they surely stand out from the rest. Hope it's good enough. Was more difficult to do as I'm not very used to work with a pad instead of a mouse as I only have a laptop to my disposal. -- Altaïr 16:43, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the marriage, Al! Best of luck for both of ya! ;D -- D. Cello 18:37, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Marcello. now just looking forward to the honeymoon in Italy to walk in Ezio's footsteps lol -- Altaïr 22:04, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

This is Neoluna sir and I give my extended congratulations with you and Victoria. ^_^ 96.55.128.217 20:13, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks from both of us, Anna. Take care xxx -- Altaïr 22:04, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Knights Templar
Uhm...Hello there, sir. I would just like to report that the Templars page was vandalized by some anons, and the rollbacks I've been conducting are messing it up even further. Forgive me for not knowing how to use the rollback effectively. Perhaps you can revert the page back to its former status? War Clown 14:00, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's a complete mess, but that's not your fault. I appreciate your help. I think because we were trying to fix it at the same time it became confusing, so it's partially also my fault. The biggest problem is that there are so many edits that the wiki doesn't remember what it originally was I think, but I'll check out what the best edit is we can get. Altaïr 16:05, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright then, thanks :D War Clown 14:15, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Right I was able to fix this. But I think we need to talk about a database of all latest files on our computer, so that we just have to delete/paste it from our files on the computer, in case correcting vandalism becomes to difficult.Altaïr 16:20, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're saying we should keep a backup of the articles in a document? Sounds good to me. I'll keep the source code of the article for some of the longer ones. War Clown 14:27, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes if we actually do this, then we copy everything. best thing to do is edit the latest revision and then copy everything from it to paste it in a word file. If we are going to do this, then we should spreaed it out among the admins and mods. Spread it out over categories or even games. I do ACI, you do ACII, Cello does brotherhood... just to give an example. -- Altaïr 16:39, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, we're gonna tell D and the others about this new idea? War Clown 14:49, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think it's going to be a big task, but it may be necessary to keep the Wiki totally safe at all costs from vandalism.-- Altaïr 16:55, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright then, I'll go tell D about this. War Clown 14:59, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I told D of the idea. I'll check on his reply soon. War Clown 15:10, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Unnecessary. The wiki keeps backups of all edits ever made to any page. If you see a huge vandalism section with multiple users vandals, just go to the history page, choose a version without vandalizing, click the edit page and save without adding anything. It will overwrite ALL edits made since them with the one from the past ;D -- D. Cello 17:27, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know about that. But I often checked that if so many edits are made to vandalize it, in the end it won't remember what the the actual version was. I think there's a limit of revisions it will remember, meaning if someone makes so many edits after each other, we might not be able to retreve the proper version. -- Altaïr 20:51, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Err... no, it doesn't. It has revisions from 2007 stored. Just browse through the version until you find the one that wasn't vandalized. It not so hard, Al, really. -- D. Cello 19:36, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it stores them, and how do you think I repaired the knights Templar page if I didn't know? lol. Anyway it stores them, but they don't show comparissons between old revisions, it only shows them between recent revisions, meaning you could be stuck guessing what is the right revision, which is what I did. Luckily you made a not that late revision on it, so I chose yours. -- Altaïr 22:00, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
Hello there. I'm new to this Wiki, and I want to know if you're getting Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. If you are, and you've got PS3 Live, make sure to add me! My Tag is nlav, and I'll be happy to aid you in Multiplayer. -- Animus 1.28 20:32, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'm getting the Codex edition, though I'm not sure if I'll be playing it a lot online yet, I'm mostly getting it for the singleplayer. -- Altaïr 22:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's cool. Singleplayer is still greater than ever. But if you decide to start with Multiplayer, I can tell you that it's an epic win on the Wanted Mode. I'm gonna pre-order it, I get some cool Multiplayer characters for pre-order. Animus 1.28 20:42, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's cool. Singleplayer is still greater than ever. But if you decide to start with Multiplayer, I can tell you that it's an epic win on the Wanted Mode. I'm gonna pre-order it, I get some cool Multiplayer characters for pre-order. Animus 1.28 20:42, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for fixing the mass amount of typos (and most were typos!) on the Spanish Inquisition page. :D Thief   talk  Wiki Policy! 05:45, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

hi!


 * Hi, you're new here I guess. Try to sign your posts, otherwise I don't know who I'm talking to lol Altaïr 15:44, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to Project Determination
Hi! I'm currently asking around to see if anyone is interested in helping out on the Assassin's Creed Wiki's newest WikiProject, Project Determination! The Project is mostly collecting and noting the numbers that run the AC games, such as the number of health squares that it takes to wear out a piece of armor. If you like this kind of thing, or would like to contribute, come by and check it out! -Ulyenov Project Determination 21:40, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well not to be arrogant, but I am an admin, and I'd like to help as much as I can. I'm not the best in writing articles though but if I say so myself I'm not bad when it comes to improving them. Altaïr 24:10, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. ^^ Most of the stuff that'll be added to the Project page won't fit into any current articles, though eventually I might try creating a new "Game Formulas" article or something similar to collate everything. -Ulyenov Project Determination 22:15, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely sounds interesting. Glad members are coming up with good ideas to improve the wiki! -- Altaïr 24:15, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. You have any ideas you want to test out? I've got ACII up and running on my 360 at the moment and nothing important to do for the rest of the night, I could run some tests if you want. :D -Ulyenov Project Determination 22:19, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Screencaptures if possible. Captures of high quality of Ezio's romantic life. -- Altaïr 24:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking something more along the lines of testing something to do with the Project... Statistics and the numbers behind-the-screen, not pics of Ezio and his lovers doing the horizontal boogie. >_> Meh, it wouldn't be possible anyway because I have an old and really teeny TV. Anything other than that? -Ulyenov Project Determination 22:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maximum amount of paintings you can buy, how much they cost or would cost in total. Maximum amount of renovations and again how much it would cost in total. Things like that maybe.-- Altaïr 01:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can buy up to 30 paintings and upgrade Monteriggioni via the Architect (in other words, repair Monteriggioni buildings themselves) up to 21 times, with 3 upgrades apiece for each of the four shops plus the bank and one upgrade apiece to repair/reopen the Brothel, Mines, Church, Barracks, Thieves' Guild, and Well. Unfortunately, I've completed my current ACII playthrough to 100% completion, and none of the prices are displayed once you buy the items, but I should be able to get data on total cost within a day or two for the upgrades. According to the Art Merchant page the total cost of all paintings is 72000 Florins, though I'm not sure if that takes into consideration the Monteriggioni art merchant discounts given for investing money in refurbishing the art shop. -Ulyenov Project Determination 23:22, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Timeline
Hey Cedric, I just was curious why you removed the birthdates of the people assassinated by the assassins in the Sanctuary on the Timeline page. I worked for a few hours on perfecting that. Thanks BruteWithASpear 22:49, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Me and D.Cello were discussing what would be really relevant on the page. What is more important for characters we don't see, yet we know were assassinated is when they were assassinated. Also concerning Leonardo Da Vinci, it is not relevant that we know when he started to paint the mona lisa and things like that. It doesn't have any appearance or isn't even mentionned in ACII anyway. Remember the length of the list is not important, but its content is.Altaïr -- 24:51, July 28,2010 (UTC)
 * I understand, thanks for your input. BruteWithASpear 23:29, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Cinematic trailers
Hi there. I must inform you, I am not mistaking these cinematics for anything but what they are. I agree with your view in that, it would be stupid to show what will happen in a cinematic before a game is released, but we cannot deny the fact that not only have these trailers been created and published by Ubisoft, but that in doing so, Ubisoft has made these canon; it won't be until the release of Brotherhood, which may or may not contradict the trailer, that we can deem them non-canon. So until that happens, it's this sites duty to maintain the information. Also, I've noticed that you're trying to suggest that the gameplay trailer is different to the cinematic, but at the basic level I do not see how. Plenty of games have had gameplay trailers released, which differed from the end product, nullifying what could previously be considered to have canonically occured. It is exactly the same for the cinematic.

All I can say is, unless you can provide me some shred of a source denying these trailers canonicity, the information is going to remain in the articles. Thank you. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 00:49, August 2, 2010 (UTC) ACII trailer was similar. Venezia, Carnivale, Hidden Gun, assassination. Those trailers take *elements* of what we will have in-game, but doesn't depict the exact happening we will experience. So my guess is they will keep the trailer in game for what it is, a presentation media, as they did with both before. I don't know what the article you guys are discussing is, but Al has a point. If it's a real world article, keep it. If it is a ingame article, whatever it is, remove the info from it. -- D. Cello 01:05, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all (to both of you), these first cinematics trailers are called "Teaser Trailers". And everybody knows what a teaser is. If you remember AC1 intro, Altaïr killed a guy in Acre and had crossbow. Now, we kill a guy in Acre, but it isn't the trailer guy or place. The church in front of where he is killed exists ingame, but the plaza and stand does not. And you know.. that crossbow? Don't exist either. So you telling me that that trailer is canon? Well, it is not.

Thanks for your input, D.Cello. What we were and Jasca were discussing is the content of the cinematic trailer being placed in Ezio's profile and of Cesare's. in the end the proof that they're canon is against these trailers. Also what I meant with gameplay trailers differ because how they are played out, but the animation in between will very likely still be the same, depending on what genre of game you're playing. Just think. That animation of Ezio sleeping with Caterina Sforza or the parade in the cinematic trailer? You almost have a complete guarantee that the first animation I mentionned will be in the game, but the animation in the cinematic trailer is showing something that 'might' happen in the game, but only in a similar way. There's bound to be differences. Altaïr 5:26, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. We can say that in 1503, during a Pope's parade, Ezio met Cesare with a group of his assassins. But to describe the events in detail would be foolish. -- D. Cello 04:13, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, you can't just pick and choose canon. You can't decide to say that Ezio met Cesare with a group of assassins in 1503, as per the trailer, but decide that everything else in that source is non-canon, and subsequently ignore it. You've mentioned the AC trailer which involved Al holding a crossbow. At no point in the game does it say Al never used a crossbow, and he did live for about twenty-five years before the game took place. That's a sizeable amount of time for him to travel to Acre, and kill somebody with a crossbow, and it not be a part of the games story. Just because he then killed somebody in Acre again, without a crossbow, does not make the trailer anyless canon. We simply have to recognise that he killed somebody in Acre, before the game's setting. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 12:04, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

hey almost thought the ac brotherhood assassins were going to be actual character that would be named but i found out a few months ago but i was inferior back then with zero pointsT-700 05:56, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If we really want to put information on these events shown it's maybe best to put it in the trivia. Then we can at least add that, whether it actually will happen is unclear at this stage. However that's just like an alternative option for me if you really want this information in. I don't think it's a good idea to put information in at all about cinematic trailers. Like I said they're suppose to awe the people, set the mood. But cinematic trailers are never made with the purpose to reveal what's actually inside the game. And that counts for almost all cinematic trailers out there. Some are used as an introduction like the first one, cause it does not connect to the story at all. But since the carnivale is in ACII and the events are different the cinematic trailer was left out the second one. Now we know that this trailer won't be used in the game and that it does contain material that connects to the story. But are we just going to bet on it that it is canon, when a lot of facts prove against it? -- Altaïr 15:42, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

"Force Unleashed" has similar videos. We saw the guy bring a Destroyer down on Raxus Prime, but the game version wasn't exactly as depicted. Simialr, but not exact. Now you're saying me the guy brought down TWO Star Destroyers, even though we follow the guy's life till his dead? The two previous movies depicted a dramatic version of similar in-game events, and never happened there. So I'm saying: Until Brotherhood's comes out and verify the Teaser Trailer, that info is considered as unclear and therefore, not canon. -- D. Cello 17:26, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

There's many examples. Like you said Force Unleashed. Instead of Raxus Prime as in the game, the star destroyer was brought down above Naboo in the trailer. In the trailer of the second game you see him walking behind Vader going to an arena, while I know that doesn't happen cause Vader is not in his presence at that time. He's with Kota. But take Dragon Age for example. They climb up some mountain to search the ashes of some sacred woman (forgot her name) and above they immediately get attacked by Darkspawn and then later a dragon, possibly the Archdemon arrives. While in the game they do look for these ashes and encounter a dragon, which is not the archdemon, it doesn't happen this way. -- Altaïr 14:40, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Look at the picture here. It shows the event in-game. Would that mean the event is canon? And what has Star Wars got to do with Assassin's Creed? XD -- Master Sima Yi 13:47, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure they are conected in some way =P. but we're talking abot trailers, Phil. And that picture is a "released picture", doesn't mean the game will be like that. We will only know for sure when the game comes out x.x -- D. Cello 17:34, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * So you're saying that they would put an event in the game for promotional purposes, only to delete it from the final game? You do know that doesn't make any sense, right? -- Master Sima Yi 16:05, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

And yet they do it. ACII had a cinematic trailer set in the carnivale. What happened with it. You had the carnivale, but everything that happened in the trailer had nothing to do with what happened in the game. Like I said many times before, these trailers are only meant to set the mood and to awe the public. They're not for canon content, unless they plan to use these as introductions to the game. But we all know this trailer won't be used as an introduction. -- Altaïr 18:39, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

The doctor
hey was was wondering if u or any other of the administrators could set up some kind of vote for what the doctors special move should be called, i mean we see about 3-4 changes a day just changing the name of the move.DBlade 23:17, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry DBlade, it's just one persistent user changing it to something he likes and reverts it all the time if someone changes it to a more better and preferable name... :D T h i e f  05:29, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the solution to that problem is simple: do not give the name a move. We don't even know if the moves have names. -- Master Sima Yi 13:47, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

IRC
Hey, D. Cello and myself are working to fix up the Wiki's IRC Channel. Whenever you get the chance, try to stop by the channel and register yourself a nick so that I can give you your Operator rights ;) When you have completed the registration procedure, or if you are already registered on IRC with a nick, just leave me a note on my talk page, telling me your registered nick ;) Thanks! -- P  i   r   a   t   e   h   u   n   t   e   r   (Talk&bull;Contribs) 22:09, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * The whole point was to get your registered nick so that I could give you channel rights, not to tell me that you had a registered nick, XD. "just leave me a note on my talk page, telling me your registered nick" Okay? And the channel isn't very active for a number of reasons, of which I am fixing as per the moment. But yes, it doesn't really matter to me if you've a registered nick, unless I know what that nick is. XD -- P  i   r   a   t   e   h   u   n   t   e   r   (Talk&bull;Contribs) 16:58, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first off: the nick you just gave me (Altair-1191 A.D) contains a period (.), which is an illegal handle character for IRC, or at least Freenode, so it cannot be a nick. Secondly, because I thought maybe that was just a simple no-problem mistake, I tried: Altair-1191_AD, Altair-1191AD, Altair-1191, Altair_1191_AD, and Altair_1191AD. None of those nicks are registered on Freenode. One that is however, is the nick simply: "Altair". My question is whether that is you. Because the Nick you gave me is invalid (for a lack of better terms) :/ -- P  i   r   a   t   e   h   u   n   t   e   r   (Talk&bull;Contribs) 18:12, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Question about Templates
Sir, I have a question regarding the templates: How do I make the codes official like this one? War Clown Wanna Talk? 14:34, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * You mean how do you make them or how do you insert them in an article? -- Altaïr 16:35, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * How to insert them in an article...without having to input the very long code -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 14:40, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just use this code for example for the first game without spacebars: { { AC } } -- Altaïr 16:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * No that's not what I meant. Check this page out. Refer to the very bottom, and you'll see a navigation template that is written in code. Now, my question is, how do I turn that chunk of code into an official template (into something like the link I pointed out) ? -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 14:49, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, it's most impressive. - Duelisttri 15:00, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Grazie for the complement :D -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 15:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I can't help you there. I think D.Cello knows someone who can make them for the Wiki, so you'll have to ask him. I've looked up information on it in this wiki itself but it doesn't reveal much: link -- Altaïr 17:08, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, Alright, I'll just go ask him directly. Thanks for the help though :D -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 15:13, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Removing a category
Sir, after a simple edit on the Hunt on Cyprus article, the activity feed showed an addition of categories, adding the article to the Templates category. I can't seem to remove said category. Please Help :D -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 13:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC) OH THE SHAME!!!!! I'm so sorry! I feel terrible....-- War Clown Wanna Talk? 13:36, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I tried to remove it by deleting the page and recreate it. Later I found out that every article under Major Events has the same category. It must be a default category that is added to certain articles, such as the articles of major events. So whatever happened it can't be because of your edit, but something of the Wiki itself. Altaïr 19:19, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just went on to check the whole category problem, and it was the timeline template. War forgot to add the noinclude tag and the template added all pages it was put under that category. If that was done for badges, HEADS WILL ROLL!! Arrrrr! -- D. Cello 18:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I..had...no idea :O

I think D.Cello was being funny. Just a mistake, but if you look at other contributors such as shapeshifter. I mean how many changes to the timeline, and almost all irrelevant to AC did he do. Like 10 I believe. Most about the construction of a building that appears in ACII. That was definately just for badges. I edited it once just to get them out of there. Altaïr 15:49, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

All I ask is for forgiveness :D and another thing to ask, why did my edit count shrink? I had about 910, now its back to 888. What happened? Not that it matters, but just out of curiosity. -- War Clown Wanna Talk? 13:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Why you modify everything i made?

Ok you have completely the right for cheking my modifications

Thank you altair

Sorry, I don't know what this is about, or who you are. Could you please sign your posts. Altaïr 19:14, August 8, 2010 (UTC) And no idea, War oO -- D. Cello 17:17, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Me being funny? When did I do that?

You're actually going to give War some "spanking", because of this mistake? lol. I thought that was the joke. lol Altaïr 19:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not War, actually... I can't believe I've never asked this yet, but... War, do you have a sister? XD -- D. Cello 17:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * .........I heard "Arrrrrr"... O_O -- P  i   r   a   t   e   h   u   n   t   e   r   (Talk&bull;Contribs) 19:33, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

hey altair, D Cello is not here now so ill tell you, this user 82.169.182.84 vandalized but his edit were reversed by anouther user DanMan7308 20:32, August 9, 2010 (UTC)DanMan7308
 * Yeah I saw it, thx for telling me though. I banned him. Altaïr 22:33, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

What does it take to become a moderator
hi