User talk:XOdeyssusx

Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. Master Sima Yi (talk) 14:56, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Sourcing
In addition, there is no need to remove text from text bubbles when making images from comic pages; a big white empty bubble isn't necessarily preferable. -- 08:18, September 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologises for that. I will make the changes as soon as possible. XOdeyssusx (talk) 08:51, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this! Two more things: do try to refrain from using entire pages as images, and there's nothing wrong with cutting out some blank space from a panel if it makes for a clearer image. -- 07:57, September 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll take note of that. Thanks for the help! XOdeyssusx (talk) 08:31, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

XOdeyssusx, you don't know how much I appreciate you uploading the images to the weapon articles I'm creating, saving me so much trouble. However, even though you are providing the most important part of each image sourcing: the licensing, you can't neglect the others either. This includes the Attention!, a note explaining how you have edited the image; the source, that is which game even if it is obvious; the author, which is usually Ubisoft; and the description, which is just what it is. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 06:23, October 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll keep that in mind. XOdeyssusx (talk) 07:16, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

Looking through the latest images uploaded here, I'm a bit confused on your sourcing. The infobox is correct and sourcing ArtStations is all good, but why do you link to the jpg image itself instead of the post? For example, for this Hippodrome concept work, instead of linking here, you link here. Sourcing the jpg alone makes it harder to see the artist's profile and any other AC works they have, as the viewer will have to search "[artist] + ArtStation" instead of clicking the hyperlinked name on the right sidebar. -- Darman  ( talk ) 17:16, April 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey there Darman, apologies for the late reply. Previously, I was kind of following Bovaffe's method of sourcing those images and have not being paying much attention to those links. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I will go ahead and much the changes to the links. Thank you. XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:03, April 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * XOdeyssusx, you're not late. Being in completely different timezones, this delay is inevitable. I'm sorry for sounding blunt. I only meant to provide a tip, though my "wording" could have been better. You've great dedication to uploading images; keep up the work! -- Darman  ( talk ) 03:45, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Origins link
I don't know whether this is due to editing in visual mode or whether you're unaware, but I've noticed multiple times where you've tried to link Assassin's Creed: Origins to a page, it appears that you've added Origins twice into the link seperated with a vertical divider, only for the second one to be italicized inside the link, for example:

Assassin's Creed: Origins

It would be much easier to add the following in source mode:

Assassin's Creed: Origins

If this is a case of using visual mode, it would be more beneficial to consider using the source mode as it helps to avoid implementing unnecessary code or needless spacing to links. Slate Vesper (talk) 01:12, November 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hmm, damn I wasn't aware of those errors. I've been using classic editor and source for most of the articles though, so I have no idea why. But I will keep note of those, thanks. XOdeyssusx (talk) 01:17, November 12, 2017 (UTC)

Need help?
Heya, it's nice to see new editors around here. I used to be like you some few years ago and kinda helped out in filling up Assassin's Creed: Syndicate when it came out. I know it gets kind of exhausting some times, so I gotta ask. Do you need help in filling out the main pages? I'm still working on the AC:Heresy information but if I got the extra time, maybe I can assist in some way, like revamping or reviewing formats? Keep up the good work, btw! Misphantom (talk) 06:49, December 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey there Misphantom. I'm doing my best to contribute whenever I can, given the lack of contributers right now. So, it will be really great if you can help out whatever you could. That will be really much appreciated! Thanks :D XOdeyssusx (talk) 07:04, December 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, mate! I was wondering though, whether you play on the PC? Screenshots are really needed to complete character profiles and maybe if you could spare some time? But it's ok if you're too busy... Misphantom (talk) 07:34, December 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I play the game on PC. Right now, screenshots is currently not one of my priority lists, given how many of the character profiles are also in need of expansion. I'm also currently busy with real life commitments so my focus would probably be on the others instead. But my holidays is coming up soon, so I will probably have more time do those I suppose. XOdeyssusx (talk) 07:43, December 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. But if I do find another source (usually MadeinMasyaf is our screenshot source), I'll let you know. Kudos! Misphantom (talk) 07:58, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Sekhmet and Letopolis
I think your timeframe is off. I believe how it went was years ago the city was dedicated to Sekhmet but there was a drought so they priest sacrificed themselves along with the city in return for better Nile flooding and it was buried beneath the sand. Years later, possibly decades or centuries, Taharqa decided to reclaim the city by digging it out and rededicating it to Horus. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 11:36, April 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not really sure what you meant by timeframe, since no proper time period was given as to when the priests did the invocation). But based the memory dialogue, its seem more likely that the priests considered Taharqa's act as an of sacrilege, thus they made the invocation only recently, not just to sacrifice the city to Sekhmet in exchange for the nile, but also as a message to Taharqa, but replacing Sekhmet with Horus. As such, I dont think the invocation takes place hundred years prior. XOdeyssusx (talk) 12:01, April 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * The town crier Ramessu says things are being reclaimed from 'the old world' while Bayek says the incident with the wab priest happened 'so long ago'. Furthermore he says that to the wab priest it 'would be sacrilege'. The use of the subjunctive mood indicates to me that the priests were dead before Taharqa's time. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 12:27, April 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * Hmm, now that you have said it, I think your explanation makes a very good point. And it makes no sense the city would be largely covered by the desert if the invocation happened a few years prior to 48 BCE. Since there's no time period given, its kinda hard to make out which timeframe it happened. Anyway, if you wish to make the changes to the respective articles, go on ahead. Thanks for bringing this up. XOdeyssusx (talk) 12:51, April 7, 2018 (UTC)


 * I edited the Sekhmet page but it might need some cleaning up; I’m not the best writer. Another big reference in the game are the scrolls found in the Old Library under the Temple of Horus which is also where I got the info about Maahes. Also of note, Bayek seems to reference the priests' invocation during Taharqa's death scene saying that the desert winds will blow the sands back in reclaiming Letopolis in response to Taharqa claiming he will be remember as a builder of cities. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 04:22, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Gentes Page
Hey I made a gentes category to fall under families and moving all the Roman gentes into that instead of the families category. Are you fine with that? Lacrossedeamon (talk) 16:14, June 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure go on ahead. XOdeyssusx (talk) 16:18, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

Superfluous information
I think that the page of Caesarion does not need to mark Species: Human at Biographical information. It is superfluous. A.gao.96  11:37, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Whilst we respect your view that the information is superfluous, it is there for a reason. With the character base expanding with each new release, we have a variety of new human and isu characters making appearances. There needs to be a quick and easy way to advise readers as to the species of a given chracter, and the infobox is the place to do that. That is why, going forward, we are including a character's species in the infobox. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 08:55, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

How we do for Sage or individuals with a high rate of Isu DNA as Desmond, Arno or Jeanne d'Arc? Isu-human hybrids as Adam and Eve? If an individuals used a fragment of eden or have eagle vision could count to have Isu DNA?Francesco75 (talk) 09:03, July 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * Sages are 100% human, but I have taken to listing each as "Human (Sage)". As for Adam and Eve – the only known hybrids to date – their articles do not yet contain infoboxes, but if they did we would list them as "Hybrid". --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:07, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

Hello
How is the famous xOdeyssusx? Daryurian ( The Mighty Turian ) 09:03, September 10, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm doing fine so far, though quite busy with internship. How about you? XD

P.S I'm not as famous as Cyfiero :P XOdeyssusx (talk) 12:19, September 10, 2018 (UTC)


 * Lol you are far too humble and I am good lol. Daryurian ( The Mighty Turian ) 14:13, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Fat Homer's ethnicity
I didn't add ethnicity-category, 'cause even though it's an 'Egyptian' area, 'Homer' is a Greek name. What's your reason for thinking him to be Ethnic Egyptian? (Sorry if too blunt. Just curious.) Sadelyrate (siniath) 12:15, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Though I agree that Homer is a Greek name, the name 'Fat Homer' itself seems more like a nickname rather than his actual name. As such, I believe he should be categorised under the "Unidentified Individuals" category. Regarding his ethnicity, I just assumed he's an Ethnic Egyptian, since as far as I recall, his model is that of an Egyptian, but it's wrong of me to assume that. Until that is confirmed, the Ethnic Egyptian category can be removed and added back in if anyone is able to get an image of that. Apologise for that. XOdeyssusx (talk) 12:24, September 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed on the nickname. Just dug up some playthrough videos featuring the side quest (The Hungry River - about to revise that page), and seems like Fat Homer can be barely told apart from the bandits he leads... but those bandits look like Greek soldiers, rather than their Egyptian counterparts. No need to apologize, imo. We're all here together. :) Sadelyrate (siniath) 12:39, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Talos the Stone Fist
Hey I saw you added nationality and ethnic categories for him. I had previously deleted them since the description changes game to game. Mine says he’s from Persia while on various YT videos I’ve also seen it say Mykonos and Argos. I think I was hasty in deleting the nationality cat since he is in Greece but I’m going to ethnicity cat again as unless it says in the novel there is no canon ethnicity for him. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 01:10, October 3, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah I must have missed out the part regarding the ethnicity part. I really mixed about this though since my game state his from, which is a Greek colony. If I am correct, there are a number of Greek colonies which had been assimilated into the Achaemenid Empire, which may be why they give his origin as being from Persia. I highly doubt the novel are going to include details in regards to the mercenaries, in addition to their ethnicity and nationality. Either way, I hate that Ubisoft made their place of origins randomized which gives us wikia such a tough time of editing. My apologies that you had to remove the category again. :/ XOdeyssusx (talk) 01:20, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Description of Farm in Flames
Hey Odeyssus, I saw you added the description to Farm in Flames, are you sure that is correct? As that's the description of Old Friends, Old Problems. Does Farm in Flames have the exact same description? I can say from experience that that description was used for Old Friends, Old Problems in my game, but haven't gotten the quest Farm in Flames myself as i had done the objective (destroying the farm) beforehand and the quest was auto-completed. Kennyannydenny (talk) 13:38, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Kenny, thanks for letting me know the issue here. Yes, it looks like I made a mistake regarding the description, which is indeed for the Old Friends, Old Problems quest. I'mma get around changing the description for the Farm in Flames quest. Apologises for the confusion XD XOdeyssusx (talk) 13:43, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha no probs, we're all human. Thanks for fixing it! Kennyannydenny (talk) 13:45, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

Tombs in navboxes
Hi, I disagree with moving tombs from the ACODMemories navbox to the ACOD navbox. reason being is the ACOD navbox is a mess really, and if we added all the tombs it would just be too big and be messier than it is. thats why i think they should stay where they are in the ACODMemories navbox. Boofhead185 (talk) 04:45, November 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree that ACODMemories is also messy as well and needs a lot of rearranging. But they are called memories for a reason, while the tombs are not. Tombs do not have a dialog unlike those in Origins(even though the dialogues are just "Ancient Writings from the Old Kingdom) and they are simply locations. Putting them in the memories box makes no sense to me. XOdeyssusx (talk) 04:52, November 21, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add that technically the Papyrus Puzzles and Ainigmata Ostraka are also not memories (nor classified as such in game unlike the Nostradamus Enigmas) but just document collections.Lacrossedeamon (talk) 05:18, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

re: The Escapists Spy
Hi XOdeyssusx, I think Garcia's page may need to be either deleted or reformatted to a general page (somehow). I just finished playing The Escapists and my spy was Acosta. Now not only do we have different names between just us two, but when I replayed it, the name changed again. This seems to occur with every Corrupt Merchant, Executioner, etc., unless they're targets like Eugenius, Ramírez, etc. As it's impossible to dig into the code and find the list of names Ubi used, what about an Inquisition Spy page? -- Darman  ( talk ) 07:20, November 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Jeez this is like the mercenary issue in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey all over again >.> Yeah that would be a better idea. We could indicate the random names and etc in the Trivia section. Please go ahead and rename it. XOdeyssusx (talk) 07:29, November 27, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah all target names of non main missions or rift events are randomly generated. Lacrossedeamon (talk) 07:47, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

Description
I'll quote Sol Pacificus concerning this:

"If you just write "description", it suggests that it's a description given in a video game (which is what it is). What is the source of the description in-universe?

For further clarification, "description" by itself isn't a proper attribution and only a little better than attributing a quote to "quote". Of course, it's a description, but described by whom or what? Absent this information, readers will assume that it refers to a description provided in a video game, i.e. a game's description, because that is the only thing it can mean without context, and hence it would be OOU." Sadelyrate (siniath) 09:25, December 6, 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, I was not made aware of this when this was how I laid out several articles previously, but then. I wasn't sure how to write it down appropriately. Then perhaps'In-game description about 'item'? Or unless you have a better suggestion about writing in IU.
 * And also, I would really appreciate if you could stop removing the information entirely based on your perspective of not knowing where the information comes from. I gave my source, even though I understand the problem lies with what you stated above. Thank you.XOdeyssusx (talk) 11:39, December 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * And also, I would really appreciate if you could stop removing the information entirely based on your perspective of not knowing where the information comes from. I gave my source, even though I understand the problem lies with what you stated above. Thank you.XOdeyssusx (talk) 11:39, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Stealthy Operations
Your Rift has DNA for Rosa? Because mine has Shao Jun, but prob because I unlocked her and Rosa early via DNA cubes. I thought these Events were standardized? - Darman  ( talk ) 14:40, December 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure about this. It seems like the DNA are standized for those characters that you owned, I believe. I didn't have Shao Jun, so that's why she didn't appear for me. But I have the others such as Luis and Maximo as the other rewards in the progression. XOdeyssusx (talk) 14:46, December 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have Maximo and Luis, too (relatively easy to acquire), but I didn't know Top Prize was based on your recruited heroes. So who do we put as the character to unlock? Or should we ask around a bit, see if there are any other DNA irregularities? - Darman  ( talk ) 14:59, December 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * I think we could check with Lacrossedeamon, who has the game as well. Otherwise, we have to check with the game content creators for this. XOdeyssusx (talk) 15:03, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

OotA and Cult of Kosmos
Didn’t you see my Cult of Kosmos allies discussion? I said that in that in the second episode of Legacy of the First Blade Kassandra/Alexios found a letter from the Order to the Cult while searching for clues on the Tempest. I saw it on a walkthrough video on YouTube.
 * I have not yet completed the 2nd episode, so I may not be sure of the complete info. Can I ask you to share what are the details in the letter? XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:12, January 16, 2019 (UTC)
 * The final sentence in the letter said “We’ve done your cult favors and we’ve come to claim ours. Signed the Tempest.”
 * I did tried to look for some footage, so you were correct. My apologies. However, I added just the Order itself only without listing down the members since no confirmation of all members working with the Cult. Indicating just the Order itself should be enough. XOdeyssusx (talk)
 * Do you think maybe the Cult wanted Xerxes to take over Greece so they could unite or merge with the Order?
 * I'm not too sure about it. Both have their set of beliefs which varies, it may be different or the same. That's why both of them are sorta predecessors to the Knights Templar, since they share the same sort of beliefs. So I'm pretty sure they may merge at one point, just not during that time. XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:42, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Mercenary articles
You said that the pages for Klymene the Beautiful Justice and Nora the Snow Leopard could remain, why are they still marked as candidates for deletion? Frontierchris (talk) 19:03, January 18, 2019
 * You are free to remove the article's deletion tag yourself, you don't have to come to me. As long as you could provide proper sourcing and back up your articles properly, it should be fine. XOdeyssusx (talk) 03:25, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't know how to do that.  You see I mostly start articles for others to add to.  I started by adding articles to Red Dead Wiki and that one doesn't seem to function the same way this wiki does.  Do you think you could clue me in on how to back it up and start a referance bar? Frontierchris (talk) 20:50, January 19, 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, you could start by reading the policies we have in place here in the wiki. That should give you some basic tips on how you should write the articles. Also, you could take a look on some of the articles we have created for various individuals and get some ideas from there. Also, on a seperate note, please include your signature at the end of your message instead of the front. Thank you.XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:48, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Cult of Kosmos lists
I added those ships because they are a part of the Cult and I thought it would be interesting to include them. Why is there something wrong?Frontierchris (talk) 01:49, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Those ships are not part of the cult, their captains are part of the Cult. There's there difference in that. Also, we currently only include individuals who are members and their allies/puppets only. That's why I remove the weapons and ships you added. XOdeyssusx (talk) 01:28, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you mind if I started a seperate category on the article and added them to that?Frontierchris (talk) 01:49, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, we have never included them in the articles on the various organisations (see articles like the Templars, Assassins and their respective branches / rites). We do have something like a category page for the ships (e.g. and  ), so you could start off by creating the respective articles on the ships used by the Cult of Kosmos members and go from there. Also, please do remember to add your signature at the end of your every message with ~ . XOdeyssusx (talk) 01:39, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * Well if you've never included them before then why not start now, I mean it's not a bad idea to include the firepower or vehicles these organizations have.  Frontierchris (talk) 01:47, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion that we should stick to current layout of the articles. I don't think there is a need to add in firepower/vehicles since they are of, if any, little relevance to the article itself unlike the members. Having the categorisation for those transportation is already good enough. Also, the weapons the Sages of the Cult used have never been shown to be use by them. Sure they possess those, but that they dont utilize it nor does the Cult made them. But this is just my point of view, other editors on this wikia may disagree otherwise. XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:00, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, it's just that I'm tired of my contributions being deleted, and it's been happening plenty of times now, not just on here but on Red Dead Wiki as well.Frontierchris (talk) 02:06, January 23, 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand your situation. Most wikis, including this, have their own set of policies on how articles should be laid out, so if users make edits that they are not aligned with what the wiki have in place, then it would be mostly changed or remove. You can start off small somewhere and if you have an opinion or suggestions for improvements, you can talk about it on the respective talk pages. We also have a Discord server that you can join and discuss this kind of information. XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:17, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Quotes
"It's actually the attribution that's OOU. If you just write "description", it suggests that it's a description given in a video game (which is what it is). What is the source of the description in-universe?

-For further clarification, "description" by itself isn't a proper attribution and only a little better than attributing a quote to "quote". Of course, it's a description, but described by whom or what? Absent this information, readers will assume that it refers to a description provided in a video game, i.e. a game's description, because that is the only thing it can mean without context, and hence it would be OOU. For comparison, if we provided a quote from database entries in Brotherhood, we can attribute it them to Shaun Hastings (the IU source) or at the very least to "Animus database entry" since that IU, the database exists. But if we just called it "description", it is unclear what the source actually is and implies that it's a description in a video game.

The issue is that we don't know who wrote these descriptions for Odyssey in-universe, since it's certainly not Shaun, and we also don't know if IU, these descriptions actually appear for Layla or if the descriptions are just meant to be taken as exclusively OOU gameplay features for players." If you want to further discuss this, I suggest taking it up with Sol, who told me that on last November 22nd. Sadelyrate (siniath) 08:21, February 7, 2019 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delayed reply, had to settle some stuff. Although I can see where you are coming from, I thought approaching Sol himself would provide me a clearer explanation. There's no issue about who wrote those descriptions or not, meaning therer's nothing to do with Layla or Shaun. The issue here is rather the quoting part.
 * Either way, our idea is that we can remove those quotes, but rather than removing the quotes entirely itself, we can integrate it to the body of the article somehow since afterall, some of those information could be useful for this. If you're okay with this, then I would proceed to remove those that currently have those quotes and integrate it somehow. Unless you have another suggestion of course. XOdeyssusx (talk) 02:11, February 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * If we'd know who we could attribute the quotes to, they'd be free to stay. Afaik, the only item description quote in Odyssey that we can attribute properly is the Artifact Fragment-bit, given Layla signed it with "-LH".
 * Incorporating the info in a description into the article itself is fine. Another might be to put the descriptions into the table with the statistics and level and all. Sadelyrate (siniath) 14:50, February 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * Well I don't think that issue would be addressed anytime soon since Ubisoft don't really pay attention to it.
 * I don't really think putting in the table is a good idea, it looks kinda weird and afaik, no such arrangement has been made for the previous weapon/equipment articles with the table statistics. XOdeyssusx (talk) 14:58, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Helping out
I don't add all the stuff you mentioned on purpose. I'm only openning new articles for others to add on because I don't have the game, and you guys are better at it then I am. Frontierchris (talk) 02:42, February 8, 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes I can see where you are coming from and I'm grateful that you try to help out in those various articles. But do understand we have some set of guidelines we have to follow in regards in the articles. Yes you open up the articles, but you cannot just put in the smallest amount of information because visitors and viewers may think that the article is just 'that' when there is more to be put into them. You are allowed to draw the information from YouTube etc. That is fine, but the primary source of info is still the games and first hand media itself because that's usually where the most accurate information comes from. Editing is not a skill that we all pick up straight away, we all have to start from somewhere so you can try and improve in whatever areas you can. XOdeyssusx (talk) 08:20, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

I think the Dagger may have been in league with the Cult of Kosmos after all. I recently found out that the cultist Skylax was stationed in Euboea at the time, and I think those corrupt Spartan soldiers, who sided with the Dagger, may have been under his command since he was a general. Frontierchris (talk) 16:06, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

How do you link a source to something outside Assassin's Creed Wiki? Like Twitter for example.Frontierchris (talk) 15:56, February 19, 2019 (UTC)

XOdeyssusx? Frontierchris (talk) 16:49, February 19, 2019 (UTC)

XOdeyssusx, can you please tell me how to link a source to something outside Assassin's Creed Wiki? Frontierchris (talk) 14:39, February 20, 2019 (UTC)