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The King's Correspondence
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You're welcome :) 07:32, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Zenks ferrie mutsj. -- 09:59, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re:9/11
Oh, yeah, you're right. Sorry about that, I knew that was the date Allende was deposed, but I also thought that was a reference to the 9/11 Attacks. Although, there's also a part where the female voice is naming dates where something bad (sometimes, confirmed to be orchestrated by the Templars) occured, (i.e, 1431 - execution of Joan of Arc; 1939 - beginning of WW2, etc...), and 2001 is named. AllianceScoutAiothai (talk) 10:45, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

True, but it's speculative to say that the Templars orchestrated it, as it's not outright stated. -- 12:39, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand. AllianceScoutAiothai (talk) 22:21, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Creator of the Creed's Maxim
I've never read the Assassin's Creed Encyclopedia so I don't if this is true, but did Hassan I Sabbah coin the phrase "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" Abelzorus Prime (talk) 19:58, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

It's not in the Encyclopedia, but he was the real person who coined the term so there's no need to assume different. -- 12:04, August 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? Isn't that just something stated in the novel Alamut and by Friedrich Nietzsche?--Bovkaffe (talk) 13:19, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's from the novel. However, Patrice Désilets' inspiration for Assassin's Creed came from reading Alamut. -- 13:22, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

So it's safe to assume Hassan I Sabbah came up with the Assassins' Creed. Abelzorus Prime (talk) 13:45, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

You can accept it as true yes, but there's no AC-related source for it. -- 13:49, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Anyway the main reason I started this convo was because it's on the Creed page, so it might be better if that info is removed. Abelzorus Prime (talk) 13:53, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Rouille
Since you tend to know these things, could you tell me what Rouille's interrogation in The Jacobin Club was about? He receives the location Luxembourg Palace from the prisoner, before telling Germain that King Louis has been plotting against the revolution.--Bovkaffe (talk) 19:19, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have no clue either. -- 19:59, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Were is a live chat? like on Skyrim's wikia Aeathel (talk) 20:18, August 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Here. We don't use a Wikia chat, but an IRC instead. Click beginner and then choose a name and password :) 20:29, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Something went wrong I cant go back in that chat site Aeathel (talk) 20:37, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Theories
Hi, Master!

I've been working on this image for some time now, and i want to know what you think about it, or if you have any suggestion/correction. Oh, and sorry if i had any gramma mistake.

Just that, greetings! DipsonDP (talk) 23:47, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Well I would like to add to this that Desmond and Clay are only stated to be descendants of Adam, not Eve, and that Galina is stated nowhere to be a descendant of Eve (if her mother was talking to Eve than she wouldn't have been reliving her memories. This is not factual). There's a reason I dropped biology though. I'm not quite sure I understand it anyway, only a person with a full line of males from you to Adam and Eve has a part of their DNA? So someone with no female ancestors in their bloodline? If Adam or Eve is your descendant, you carry part of their DNA with you. What makes Desmond so special, is that he has a lot of ancestors with high concentrations of Precursor DNA, resulting in Desmond having a significantly higher concentration than your average human. We know nothing about Galina's potential Precursor lineage, so I find it hard to comment on that. -- 08:34, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

The Female's DNA is ALWAYS passed, no matter if is the descendant is a boy or a girl, the "X" is always present, and everyone who descends from Eve, has her DNA, Including Clay and Desmond. The thing about the male's DNA is that the "Y" is only passed down when the child (Abel or Seth) is a male, because women's chromosomes are 100% provided by the mother. So, to get the "Y" passed down, a full chain of males is necesary. That's why we can't play as a female in Desmond's genetic tree. And that does not means that Desmond's ancestors could not have daughter, if there is a son before or after, it does not matter. Example: Marcello and Flavia. Jennifer and Haytham. What made Desmond and Clay special was that they had Adam's DNA, not just Eve's one like everyone who descends from them... but not only Adam and Eve, as you mentioned, Clay and Desmond had a lot of ancestor with high concentratioN of Precursor DNA, Adam was just "One more to the list" DipsonDP (talk) 21:17, August 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * "Each person normally has one pair of sex chromosomes in each cell. Females have two X chromosomes, whereas males have one X and one Y chromosome. Both males and females retain one of their mother's X chromosomes, and females retain their second X chromosome from their father. Since the father retains his X chromosome from his mother, a human female has one X chromosome from her paternal grandmother (father's side), and one X chromosome from her mother." 


 * Source: Wikipedia. 21:28, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

See Subject 1 and his reliving of the memories of his ancestor Aveline. Also, again, neither Desmond or Clay is stated to be Eve's descendant, ever. Explicitly only Adam. -- 21:26, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

But Subject 1 does not descends from Adam, and if he did, he would not have his DNA. Desmond could had relived the memories of a woman in his Family Tree, but that woman would't have Adam's DNA. And we dont need an statement, the "X" is always passes, like i said, everyone who descends from Adam and Eve, have, at least, Eve's DNA. DipsonDP (talk) 21:41, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Mate I really don't know what you're on about anymore, sorry. -- 21:46, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

When i investigated this, it took me a while to get it too, no worries. DipsonDP (talk) 21:51, August 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think the basic gist of this is that for someone to relive Adam's memories, they would need to come from a bloodline with a chain of male descendants that leads directly to him. If at any point in the bloodline where the chain of male descendants is broken by only females being born, that last male in the chain is the one that Adam's genetic memories are accessible from, as a woman being born in that chain would bring their paternal grandmother's X chromosome to take the place of the Y-chromosomal Adam gene (the Y gene that traces back to Adam). Slate Vesper (talk) 13:57, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Courtesans
do you think their are Courtesans in Assassin's Creed: Syndicate -- 02:49, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Assassin insignia
why was this Assassin insignia removed -- 20:06, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Because it's not official. -- 15:08, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

ok thank you -- 16:44, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Never Ending
Hi i have only a simple request and that is for balck flag to never stop. We have internet so keep the content comming, expand the map and items and ships. Make it something like No man's sky where we can explore and and craft and let the AI fight back to gain thier FORTS. I like trading and let other player's come on to my map and attack me or one of my Forts's then i can defend it. Please don't stop this Pirate game i love it and i will pay for every dlc you make.

197.81.147.201 06:21, August 31, 2015 (UTC)Chili197.81.147.201 06:21, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but we don't create the games, we just chronicle the information in them. Ubisoft are the ones who make the Assassin's Creed series, and with their release schedule, I don't think they'd consider expanding a previous game after a year. Slate Vesper (talk) 11:03, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Unification's partnership between wikis
Hello, Master Sima Yi! I am TheCreedX, bureaucrat of Assassin's Creed BR Wiki (http://pt.assassinscreedbr.wikia.com/), and I wonder if you would like to make a unification's partnership allowing us to use your wiki design and other things.

We could discuss better about this partnership in particular, if you want. I and all administrators of Assassin's Creed BR Wiki are interested in partnering with your wiki and I think it would benefit both parties. The Brazilian community of Assassin's Creed is a huge community and we think we can reach a higher level.

We have significant influence capacity and we may disclose your wiki if you want.

And we will credit all is the Assassin's Creed Wiki English, of course.

I'll be waiting for your reply!

--TheCreedX (talk) 16:28, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Bureau position
Hey Sima, long time no talk, so let me get straight to it.

I'd like to step down as a Staff member of the Wiki, as I've become distracted by other games, and I haven't been putting the time into the Wiki as should be expected of my position. I feel it wouldn't be fair to withhold the opportunity from one of the more active members of the wiki, and to be fair, the drive to come back isn't as stong as it used to be.

I'll still come and edit every so often, but it might not be a frequent occurrence. Therefore, if I'm to nominate anyone to take my place, I'd have to recommend that Crook and Bovkaffe be treated equally as deserving of the position. This aside, I'd like to thank you, Nesty and all of the other editors here for their hard work and their consideration and co-operation in helping maintain this place both during my time here and in my absence as well.

-- Slate Vesper (talk) 03:48, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Revamp
Are you still working on the Templars revamp? I'm asking because you removed the revamp template from the article.--Bovkaffe (talk) 15:11, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yes (though I don't have much time for it lately), but I figured I might as well remove that eyesore template because people are free the edit the current version of the article. -- 15:14, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Gaming footers
Hi, Master Sima Yi!

I was wondering if you had an opinion on this site being included in the new gaming footers? We'd love to see the Assassin's Creed community included ;)

Best regards,

Raylan13 ( talk ) 16:14, September 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * The background is actually transparent ;) And the link colors are inherited from the site. Raylan13 ( talk ) 19:02, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

I have a question for you!
I am helping out with a Game Team project and could use your assistance. In one sentence, could you tell us what excites you about Assassin's Creed: Syndicate and why you love the franchise? Thanks much! Pinkachu ( talk ) 00:15, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

creed
what do you think of the creed of the Assassins -- 20:39, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Games hub page
Just wanted to let you know we have a page set up on our Games Hub for AC! If you want to give it a quick once-over, feel free to do so!

Raylan13 ( talk ) 17:16, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Japanese Assassins
-- 17:22, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

AC comic
Psst, the comic takes place on 15 September 2015. --Alientraveller (talk) 22:40, October 15, 2015 (UTC)


 * In fact it takes place on two days. The date can be seen on Charlotte's computer, while she is working at the bank. There is still an error because it says "last logged in on Wednesday, September 15 2015" but if you check the calendar the 15 September was a Tuesday. ^^

15 September: plays the Helix Far West simulation in the morning, go to an interview for a new job, go to work at the bank, come back home in the evening to find Assassins in her appartement, recruited and attacked by Templars, jump through the window to reach a nearby roof but get knocked out in the process.

16 September: wake up in the Salton Sea hideout during the day, formally meet the team and is introduced to the mission, put in the regular Animus to relieve Stoddard's memories and find an artefact hidden in Salem. Maxattac (talk) 23:07, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Wanted Pages
Hey!

What happened to the "Wanted Pages" section? I remember it being full of wanted pages, but now it is empty. DipsonDP (talk) 00:33, October 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you mean this? -- 07:42, October 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Now i know where everything went.Try entering the Wanted Pages section from the Link at the right in the Recent Activity page. DipsonDP (talk) 22:07, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Assassins sandbox error
Hey, Master Sima, one of your recent updates to your "Assassins" sandbox page left a bit of a dangling sentence at the end of the "Search for the Observatory" section. The part that goes "and later joined the Assassins in Great Britain and started compiling his research into First Civilization temples in a journal." -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 19:19, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Woops, meant to remove that. -- 19:24, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Assassin Council
I much rather face the Assassin Council then the principal office -- 15:50, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

What? -- 17:51, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

I much rather go in front of the Assassin Council then a principal -- 18:41, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Unable to make forum post
Hi Sima. Is it deliberate that the ability to make forum posts has been disabled? I'm not sure if it's a side-effect of Forum:Wiki discussion being protected or not, but I get a protected page alert whenever I try and create a new forum post. Would you mind taking a look, as I am wanting to propose some changes to the Sourcing Policy. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:29, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

It's because Special:Forum is in use now. There is a banner up top on the link you posted saying so. -- 11:34, October 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * I completely missed that. Thanks. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:58, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Instruments of the First Will icon.
Hi, Master Sima Yi, I may have jumped the gun. I was half-way through adding an icon to the eraicon template when I realized I didn't consult with anyone. So, here goes: Should we have an era-icon for the Instruments of the First Will? As seen in the recent uploads I kinda already made an icon and uploaded it. Reasons for the icon: The instruments seem way more important than the Hermeticists and we have an icon for them, and moving forward there seems that there could be even more Instruments. So yeah. -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 03:24, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I don't see the harm, sure. -- 07:49, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

So... I'm not really sure how to go about this. I made several videos of all of the Reconstructed Data from AC: Syndicate at the request of a redditor, and then went on to transcribe all of them into plain text. Is this something that you all would be interested in having posted here? It's about 44,000 characters (~7800 words), so I didn't want to just dump it on the wiki without asking. Please let me know, either here or via reddit message (/u/PyroKep).

Thanks!

73.214.23.230 00:33, November 7, 2015 (UTC) Pyro

Rite of the Template Order
Howdy. Is there a reason why the AC novels don't have their own navigation templates as with the games and comics (and teh movie)?  Vetinari (Appointment) 06:05, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

I think mostly because the novels (particularly the older ones) were just novelizations of the games so it'd be repetition of info. -- 17:20, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough but the majority of Underworld is its own thing.  Vetinari (Appointment) 21:38, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

I know. I was just giving you the reason why none of them have one. I don't think anyone will object to a navbox for Underworld being created, so do feel free if you want to. -- 11:51, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Mayan stelae
I am looking for the last two Mayan stelae -- 14:10, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

:) DFTBA.
This is for every user who knew me and my antics. I know I have said this before many times, without really meaning it. I am sincerely sorry for all the trouble I have caused around here. Sima, Nesty, Kain, Kaishiro (although he might be active less here in the wiki), Crook, and everyone. I was but a child with zero maturity at all. I was arrogant and stupid. I am not looking for sympathy ,nor do I expect you to forgive me out of nowhere, because I was such an annoyance.

May this community ever stand.

Live long and prosper.

~altaïr skywalker 47 111.92.90.191 16:21, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

There's no need to apologize to me. I just hope that you've improved your behaviour since you were last here. I can't fault you for having been young and immature, but I hope you realize how that behaviour wasn't appropriate at the time. -- 11:55, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Staff position
Hey, Sima. It's been quite a while, so I hope all is well. I've been mulling over how to word this for a few days now, but I've decided it'd be best to just come out with it.

I'd like to surrender my position on the staff board. My reasoning for this is that I've taken up quite a few other interests that keep my attention away from here, and my priorities have definitely shifted significantly. I haven't been devoting nearly as much time as should be expected of someone in my position, and it wouldn't be right to keep such a position since there are people more deserving who could easily take my place. My urge to edit here is much weaker than it once was, and I don't even feel the urge to play many of the games anymore. I've been infrequent in visiting for almost a year now, and that is a bad image for a staff member to send.

Perhaps I'll continue to edit, but if I do, it will likely be very infrequent. As I said, my priorities have shifted. If there is one thing I say before I go, it is that I think Bovkaffe is definitely deserving of replacing me. He has accomplished a great deal in the time he's been here - more than I ever did. I have immense respect for him, and I firmly believe that he would be a perfect addition to the staff.

I wish you and everyone else the very best in the future, and I am confident that you will all continue to keep this place in great shape. It's been a good three and a half years, but it's time for me to move on. Take care. -- 18:00, December 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Fare thee well, Crims. I'm sure that, wherever it is that you're now spending a lot of your time and attention, the people there are lucky to have you :) 19:13, December 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * It's been a pleasure, Crimson. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. Do stop by sometime. -- 19:29, December 3, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you both. I must stop by the IRC at some point this month. I'll still be reading articles on wikis across the web (I love brushing up on all kinds of lore), so feel free to leave a message on my talk page at any time if you want to me to pop round. -- 20:17, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Jack the Ripper
what is Jack the Ripper a former Assassin or a Rogue Templar I am talking about his skills -- 17:48, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Forum: portable infoboxes
Hi Sima, would you mind joining the discussion here (for the life of me, I can't work out how to link directly to these new forums). I'm hoping to update Template:Character Infobox with the changes proposed in that forum. Thanks. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:27, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

I don't have the time to analyse this right now, but I'll have my full attention here this Saturday. -- 14:38, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hey dude, do you know where I could get the background image for the wiki?

Thanks!

Ryenn The Hunter (talk) 00:25, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

Ryenn

Hi. Who do u think is the most skilled assassin protagonist? And in case ur wondering who I mean, there's Ezio Auditore, Altaïr, Edward Kenway, Ratonhnhaké:ton, Haytham Kenway, and Desmond Miles.

I actually made my own list, and I would love to hear ur opinions, since ur #1:

1. Ezio Auditore da Firenze; Ratonhnhaké:ton

2. Edward Kenway

3. Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad

4. Haytham Kenway

5. Desmond Miles

Soundtracks
Hi Master Sima,

Looking at the Soundtrack page, I see that DLCs such as Dead Kings and Jack the Ripper, for example, have no pages, even though the tracks are listed here and here, respectively. Do I add the DLC music pages? I couldn't seem to find a page saying otherwise, but I thought I should ask.

Cheers, Darman36 (talk) 19:26, December 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * Neither URL works, but if you are certain the tracks listed are 100% accurate, I am not opposed to creating pages. -- 20:01, December 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Sorry about that, links work on my end. Try looking up the appropriate titles in "play.google". Should work. Anyway, thanks, will work on now! Edit: How do you want the names? Like "...Creed: [main Game]: [DLC name]" or "...Creed: [Main Game] – [DLC]" Darman36 (talk)

The former is more preferable. Are these officially released soundtracks? -- 18:22, January 2, 2016 (UTC)
 * They're real, though I think they were released as digital downloads. Here's Freedom Cry, Dead Kings, & Jack the Ripper. Blast, now I have to rename the pages; I used the 2d format (see Soundtrack). Sorry.


 * Edit: Links moved. Since I'm at this, should ToKW music have its own page instead of being added here? --Darman36 (talk) 14:58, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

Charles Lee
I have a question about Charles Lee. Being an admin, you probably know more about the series than I do. When was Charles Lee a member of the British Rite? I saw that he was included as a member, but as far as I know he was only an ally of the British Rite, and then an ally of the Colonial Rite, and then a member of the Colonial Rite. Just wondering if I missed something.Hugues de Payens (talk) 16:26, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

His name was on a list of British Templars in Syndicate hence why we list him as such as well. Possible explanations for that could be that when he was abducted into the Templar Order by Haytham it was only yet in his capacity as a member of the British Rite, and that the Colonial Rite wasn't yet 'officially' established until sometime later. Or, at that time when those colonies were still part of the British Empire, Colonial Templars were also seen as British Templars. I don't know what the writers' intention was with that exactly. -- 17:18, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

I did notice that the list was simply titled British Templars, it did not specify the British Rite. I know Lee is a British Templar, in that he is both British and a Templar. So to me he was a British Templar, however he wasn’t a member of the British Rite. I also had the same kind of question about Maria Thorpe. She was a British Assassin, but I don’t remember her being part of the British Brotherhood. So again, to me she was a British Assassin, but she was not a member of the British Brotherhood (unless I missed something). I think those lists were just a list of people that they traced their DNA back to England, as they don’t specify the British Brotherhood/Rite. But I guess you’re right, we don’t know what the writers were thinking.Hugues de Payens (talk) 17:32, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed Recollection Missions
I saw what you wrote on the Assassin's Creed Recollection/mission page two years ago, and I think I may have finally found the solution! The Italian Assassin's Creed wiki appears to have the complete list of missions. All we need to do is translate what is on that page into English and place it here. Sadly, I cannot speak Italian. Do you know anyone who does? If there are any Italian speaking users on this wiki, they should be able to do it. Toolen (talk) 22:11, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Hello Toolen. I don't think we have any Italian speaking users here, but of course translating to English doesn't mean it'll be exactly the same as the texts released in the English version of the game. -- 18:55, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Assassins article revision
Hey Sima Yi :), I am currently working on a revision on the "Assassins" article, and Crookandcharlatan mentioned that you had already been working on a revamp, so I wanted to check in with you to see if anything would conflict, if you're still working on it, or whether it is alright for me to resume my revision. Sol Pacificus (talk) 23:23, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

I've only been working on the history section and think I'm mostly done so right now I don't think anything conflicts. I'm not sure when I'll be able to resume work on it, however, but I don't know if you were planning to cover the history section as well? -- 13:18, February 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * No I was planning to leave the history section entirely untouched. Sol Pacificus (talk) 22:17, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Feed
I would like to dedicate this section to feeding Master_Sima_Yi

ICurse (talk) 11:24, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Bonus Tracks
Master Sima, In the Trivia section for the AC2 soundtrack, it’s mentioned that Jesper posted 4 unreleased tracks on his Facebook page. However, all the pages that mention unreleased AC2 music don't bring up anything, at least on my end. While this site lists what I presume to be the missing tracks, the source no longer links to the post in question. What do I do? Darman (talk) 14:45, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Mention that Jesper published unreleased tracks from AC2 but that they're no longer available since then? We could also try reaching out to him. -- 17:14, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I can find the tracks on YouTube, so they're available, but (1) not from the original source, and (2) the video lengths vary, so I don't know which is the actual track that he posted. I think attempting to contact him would be a good idea. Could "you" (pl.) do that, please? Thanks. Darman (talk) 19:04, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

I could try to contact him somewhere this week. -- 19:25, February 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry to revive this after so long, considering the Navbox thread is still open, but you never got back to me on this. Granted, I almost forgot as well, but we got busy. Anyway, was contact with Jesper regarding the unreleased tracks successful? --Darman (talk) 15:45, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Houdini?
Kinda did, sorry Simi. I will try to be active now that i'm back home. -- 05:08, February 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * No worries if you're not active but just let us know you didn't die or something. :P -- 08:28, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ubisoft
I'm an ex ubisoft employee, before they laid me off over disagreements, I'm telling you it's feburary 25th that the dlc is released, your impudent behavior is quite uncalled for anyway, I know how it went down, you laughed to yourself thinking you're all high and mighty, going to get me good by deleting what I've posted because you thought that you'd impress whoever.

I guarentee you it comes out that day, my contract expired from those fucks when they fired me. Not sure about the other dlc but they plan to release it to all consoles. So go ahead and laugh to yourself, I'll be laughing when it's released on the 25th and you're kissing my feet wanting more info.

You should consider who you treat badly, it could be someone that has sweet intel, then again, you'd only treat people kindly in hopes you'd get something out of it, eh?

Anyways, feb 25th. Enjoy, the content. I helped with this mama. Oh and apologies are fine on the 25th

Just to be clear it's The last Maharaja mission pack. Cheers.

Rummy00 (talk) 07:58, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Undoing an edit you did not back up with any valid source and thus made in violation of our sourcing policy is not "treating you badly", it's you treating the wiki badly. Ubisoft has confirmed it's not coming out until after the stream. I can also quite frankly based on your previous edits here that you're an obvious troll and most certainly not a Ubisoft employee. Even for a 'Ubisoft employee' this is no way to behave on a community-based website and me undoing an edit you made without adhering to wiki rules does not warrant this kind of disrespectful behaviour. For that, I'm giving you a ban, which I already should have given for your previous edits. You can thank me for cutting you slack before. -- 08:05, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Page Deletion
Master Sima, Thought I'd notify you of a page I thought should be deleted, as the Wiki is not meant for game walkthroughs. I don't mean to say you Admins are unobservant for not getting to it, but different time-zones determine what "Recent Changes" are seen. I'd put the template up myself, but the Staff page says only Admins can delete stuff, and since I'm new here, I didn't want to potentially overstep my editing powers, such as they are. Cheers, Darman (talk) 02:58, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Moving "Temple of the Sand"
There is an article to a memory in Altaïr's Chronicles named Temple of Sand. The article on the subject itself was named Temple of the Sand. This is incorrect as the name for that location is given in the above memory and in the map (and in all other cases known as the "Desert Temple"). I believe that the user that created the page might've found that the page "Temple of Sand" already existing and to resolve the conflict hastily decided to modify the name. I have just moved Temple of Sand to "Temple of Sand (memory)" to make way to move "Temple of the Sand" to the proper name, but the system does not allow me to move "Temple of the Sand" because apparently the title "Temple of Sand" is already a page that redirects to "Temple of Sand (memory)" something I'm rather confused by. I'm guessing to fix this, I would move all content from "Temple of the Sand" to the page currently serving as a redirect ("Temple of Sand"), and then have "Temple of the Sand" redirect to "Temple of Sand." But, since I feel like I've already messed up, I wanted to double-check with you. Sol Pacificus (talk) 20:16, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

When you moved the page "Temple of Sand" to "Temple of Sand (memory)" you left the option "Leave a redirect behind" checked. I'll delete it. -- 20:24, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. When I moved "Temple of the Sand" to "Temple of Sand" just now though, I didn't see any option concerning whether to leave a redirect link behind or not, only whether to follow the page. Sol Pacificus (talk) 21:22, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Non-WP links
Master Sima, it's Darman. I'm working on Alonzo Batilla's treasures, and a large number of the artifacts have real-life counterparts e.g. here's, and here's , &c. Do I put the artifacts links in the image caption, or as a source/ ? --Darman (talk) 16:12, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Uhm, I don't think they can really function as a source. Image caption seems preferable. -- 20:56, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Subtitles
Master Sima, it's Dar. We talked on IRC about the subtitles for the AC4 AE files. As per your advice, I did a test transcript for the "Devils of the Caribbean". I think it looks good here, but that's my opinion. What are your thoughts? --Darman (talk) 12:15, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I'm still not entirely sold on the asterisk use, nor do I see the point in mentioning "Narrator" when it's just one person speaking. On the other hand, when there is more than one person speaking not using either would become an issue. But yes, aside from that it looks quite alright. -- 16:03, March 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, sorry about that. I meant "Voiceover" (I styled it after the Project Legacy Intro videos), but I see your point; will correct in future. Aside from removing the bullet, can I continue this with the other files?
 * EDIT: Do I use [colon,bullet] for when there's dialogue for 2+ people? The scripts for Subjects 0 & 1 are really long, over 2 pgs. --Darman (talk) 23:38, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

I think using bullets will be required in order to make dialogue between multiple people look good, so yes, use bullets there. -- 14:51, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Stepping down
This has been coming for a while now. More so after I left to avoid India spoilers. I thought I was just in another slump, but I feel it's lasting longer than it should. I've lost the "spark" that once drove me to edit. As such, I feel I should be removed from Staff. I'll still be around, just not quite as often. And if you guys need me for a chat on the IRC, you can still shoot me a message. Thank you for giving me this opportunity all those months back.

I'd also like to be removed from the social media site. I'm glad Crook was brought on board; he's been doing an amazing job. I'm not sure what this means for my position on the Fanon wiki; I'll leave that up to you. In case my absence becomes permanent, via alien abduction or similar scenario, I wish you guys and gals all the best. 01:26, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Nav box
Thought I'd ask you since you created the boxes: why are the Templar_nav and Assassins_nav templates still here? Few pages link to either, and as you said on the Templar_nav talk pg, they're not really used anywhere. Should they be unlinked from the pages? Removed/deleted might be too far, but they're just sitting there... --Darman (talk) 01:20, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Well I wouldn't really be opposed to using them personally, don't really see much wrong with them but they could be a little more expansive. Or do you disagree? -- 16:37, April 5, 2016 (UTC)


 * No, I think expansion is great. I was wondering if you had plans for them (not that I was going to do anything), since they're just kind of "there". I think the only downside to expanding is that the Allies & Puppets section could get very crowded. Oh, and currently, the names in the sections of both boxes seem to mush together. Could a line seperator-thingy be added to make the section distinction clearer? Darman (talk) 23:37, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think like in other navboxes only the most relevant names ought to be mentioned in there. And yes, that is surely possible. -- 14:52, April 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * OK. I was thinking of a separator thingy like the kind used in the game nav boxes, the white line (or something similar). Would the box go above or below the game boxes at the end of a page? I think above? Darman (talk) 01:40, April 8, 2016 (UTC)

My preference would also go to above. And yes, I knew what you meant, which is appropriate. -- 14:07, April 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * The nav boxes may not have to edited as much as I thought. Did some wiki digging in "Templates" & "NavBoxes" & turns out you made early drafts with the separators here. Would the drafts be merged with the final versions? Also, can I add the separators myself? I think I know the code needed, and I'll use "Preview" before publishing so it doesn't look a mess. --Darman (talk) 12:34, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Of course, you may go ahead. Don't need to ask my permission to make an edit on a public page. -- 07:54, May 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'd asked because it was your project at some time, and now I'm adopting it. I take it we add it to the respective Assassin/Templar "Notable Members" profiles, but do we add it to all the pages listed in the subsections? --Darman (talk) 00:08, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by subsections? Add it to every page in the Assassins and Templars category? I think that would be the most sensible. -- 10:37, May 8, 2016 (UTC)


 * I mean: Obviously, we add the navbars to "Notable Members" of each Order, and I'm assuming it'd be added to the pages in "Affiliated Groups", "Ranks", & "Other", but do we add it to all the people listed in "Puppets & Allies"? Some may interpret it as Person X was an Assassin/Templar... --Darman (talk) 01:56, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

Fair point, though I don't think we should make it into a really big deal. Anyway who takes a closer look at the template will see why it is included. Matter of fact, anyone who's taken a closer look at the article will understand. Let's not assume people will skim over the entire article to find information, and just take a look at what navboxes are featured without taking a look at the navbox's content to obtain information. -- 15:28, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

tablets
I need finding them all -- 04:09, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Desmond Miles
if Desmond Miles did not die do you think he would make a good mentor -- 17:03, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Slider
Hello! I was wondering who created your wiki slider :D My sig is broken atm so message me here [] 13:25, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you 20:56, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Mainpage interwiki links
Hello, Master Sima Yi!

You could put these interwiki links on page Assassin's Creed Wiki, please?

fa:          pt-br:

Thanks!

TheCreedX (talk) 13:12, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Done. -- 13:14, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Interwiki links - Flag icons
Hello, Sima!

I would like to know your opinion about it: Thread:206794 (I'm talking to all Assassin's Creed wikis about it).

Best Regards! :) TheCreedX (talk) 00:39, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Branches
Hey,

I didn't think that the old branches still exist. I mean, there are Cells with leaders, but they are not specifically tied up to some country, like Desmond's one, what are they? Italian, American, Worldwide? Cells' locations come and go, as you can see that a Cell in France (The one established by Eric Cooper) disappeared after the attack to Abstergo's Phoenix Project Lab (In Bishop's cells map, at the beginning of Syndicate). It would appear that they just moved to London, which makes me think that branches no longer exists. Half of Japan's one moved to China, Georgia's moved to Russia.

So... What do you think? DipsonDP (talk) 21:39, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Whether or not the branches still exist in the modern day isn't relevant to the categories' existence. I created the categories to contain all members of the specific branches, not as a category that just blends characters' nationalities and affiliations into one regardless of whether they belong to said branch. That is also what the category descriptions specifically note. But I already undid my edit because the beginning of Syndicate labels Shaun a member of the British Assassins. -- 21:45, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Navbar
Locus is displaying as "Last Descndants".  Vetinari (Appointment) 15:44, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. -- 21:35, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Petition idea for Hungarian fans!
Good day to you Mentore!

My name is Attila and I am the hungarian Assassin's Creed Wikia Administrator! I came here and wrote this message because i have an idea, but i need the "manpower" to do it.

So, i spoke with one of our national company (who translated the series books) called FUMAX, and they gave me some information about the Assassin's Creed comic. They had said they tried to get some copies from Assassin's Creed: Awakening, but after a relatively long time they had abandoned it because the Ubisoft is "suffer" lack of interest.

What do you think about it? This is good idea to make a petition?

Please write your thoughts about it! I think this deserve a try!

This is the situation! Please help our community!

Have a good day!

Yours faithfully, Attila!

(P.S.: Sorry for grammatical mistakes! If you find one write down there in the correct form!)

Hello! This sounds like something that would be worth a shot, but what is it you want me to do? -- 09:37, August 26, 2016 (UTC)

To write this idea "officially" to gather some signer and i make the rest of it: make the petition website and the other things! If i finished this i will contact with you. Have a good day! -- 18:58, August 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I just speak with our company, FUMAX and they said in the past they tried with petition, and nearly 20000 people sign it but the Ubisoft does not show a sign or answer it. So, the plan is over. Have a good day. -- 12:06, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

Expanding Character Articles
Hey, Master Sima Yi, I had been working through many articles concerning Altaïr's Chronicles, revising many as I went, and expanding on the articles of many characters. Most of them were of very low quality or at times incomplete, but when I at last struck upon Adha, which is complete, I wasn't sure if I should expand on it. I noticed that a lot of articles for major characters summarize more than I have been doing with the articles of minor characters. I wasn't sure if there was a specific standard for the conciseness of character articles. With articles of minor characters, I felt free to be as detailed and comprehensive as possible since I did not wish to leave them as stubs, but I am not sure if our policy is the case with major characters whose articles are not at the threat of being stubs. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 22:46, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, life has been pretty hectic. I'm personally not too fond of detailing every single movement a character did but to just tell a story understandably without flooding a paragraph with too many pointless details. Expanding is fine, but when all about a character is said then that's that. The article doesn't need to be elongated to meet some specific standard if everything is already said. -- 13:39, October 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I think that's a very reasonable stance. :) Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 08:17, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Monastic Knights Templar?
So, I was looking through our list of Templar Rites and one is very noticeably absent: the order itself before it was torn down from its official position by Clement V and Philip IV of France, when it was known as the Knights Templar. Should this "rite" get a name? It seems like it should, considering the Hashashin have one under Levantine Assassins, and technically even the modern Templars do under Abstergo Industries and Inner Sanctum of the Templar Order.

If so, what would the name be? Knights Templar?

GZilla311 (talk) 20:26, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

I think we've deliberately left it out because at that point there likely was no such thing as "rites". It was just what it was, the monastic order, and once de Molay sent his advisors out into the world to globalize their order, the rites were created. -- 10:29, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Corruption section in Assassins article
Hey Master Sima Yi, I probably should have contacted others for their opinion a while ago on this matter. There is an ongoing debate between another user and me in regards to the "Corruption" section in the Assassins article, and we may have reached an impasse. The debate is the lengthiest discussion you'd find on this wiki, I think ._. ... and it extends into my own talk page and that user's talk page, and as such is probably extremely difficult to follow, so here is a summary of the dispute:

A few years ago, a user created the "Controversy" section in the article because he felt that Assassins, as the protagonists, are viewed too positively by the audience and thus the article should "balance" this out by incorporating criticisms of them. Unfortunately, the section was nothing but vitriolic ranting, violating the policy of no original research and NPOV wile also being unsourced. When I revamped part of the article, I wanted to remove this section outright, but other users maintained that it should stand because the article could benefit from posing an opposing perspective of the Assassins to neutralize their moral ground. I personally thought that having a biased counter-perspective doesn't really promote NPOV, and rather there should be balance throughout the article, and this is at the core of of the disagreement. Even so, I worked with it, changing it to "Corruption" to explain cases of corrupt Assassins instead, such as Assassins of Rogue or Mackandal.

But predictably, this led to a debate over which cases constitute "corruption" or not, especially in regards to Ezio's actions in Revelations. Even using the term "corruption" in the first place, I am not entirely comfortable with, and a more objective term might be "cases of violations to the creed".

We should be doing our best to avoid original research. The entire section itself, or the concept of it, may pretty much violate that altogether.

My proposal is that if we are to retain this section, however, we should only state cases which are explicitly cited as "violations" or "corruption" and/or cases that served as major plot points, such as Al Mualim, Rogue Assassins, Pierre Bellec, and Jack the Ripper. Cases that people may consider to be contradictions to the creed, but are neither explicitly cited nor presented as such in source material can be placed in a "Behind the Scenes"/"Trivia" section. Ezio causing that firestorm in Derinkuyu that killed untold innocents is a good example of this. I think it is a case that people find indisputably a contradiction to the tenet of not to kill innocents, but it's not cited as corruption or violation, and I think it is better for consistency to include it in the BtS/Trivia as an OOU contradiction instead. Readers can decide for themselves whether this was hypocrisy on Ezio's part or developers' oversight, while we avoid inserting our own interpretations (original research). Other cases that users keep debating, which are just disputable, should either not be included, or it can also be put down in the Trivia section as contradictions, maybe even in just a simple sentence. I think if they're debatable though, then it shows that they're not factual enough to be objectively called "corruption".

If you read the section, which I have written, I really fear that the wording is biased, especially in regards to Rogue. I felt pressured to extrapolate and explain how it's "corrupt", but I think that forces us to make too many assumptions.

The user and I alone can't decide on the matter. What are your thoughts? Or is this better moved to the forums? Should it be put to a vote? Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 17:55, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I personally agree with you. Bias and original research must be left out of articles, and it should be left to the reader to draw their own conclusions. That way we also avoid future disagreements on what should go in the article or not based on people's differing perceptions. -- 11:46, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Discussions and Main Page
Hi, Master Sima Yi :)

Just wanted to swing by and explain the change I made to the main page. On my laptop the right side components - notably the Chat and everything beneath - were stacked oddly such that they were sliding beneath the left-side components like the Stats and below. I tweaked it so that wasn't happening, but I can't recall what the original layout intent was. At the very least things aren't interfering with one another anymore.

On another note, I was wondering if I could enable Discussions here, similar to how I've set them up at Overwatch. I can get things rolling with them and maintain the feature for the time being ;)

Best regards,

Raylan13 ( talk ) 23:16, November 14, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also :P Is there any way the upcoming film could get some main page love? I was thinking just a box with a trailer in it and link right above the News section. Raylan13 ( talk ) 23:25, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Hi there Raylan. We decided against enabling discussions a long time ago because we did not find them to be very professional. (I don't mean for that to sound rude.) Also definitely yes, I've been inquiring about making a film-related wallpaper and to update our main page to correspond with the film, but the people who are more experienced with visuals than I am seem to be busy lately. -- 16:55, November 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * If you want, I can give the movie visuals a stab - otherwise, no worries ;) Raylan13 ( talk ) 17:02, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Appearances and chronological order.
I was wondering if the Wiki will ever have an appearances section on both media pages (games, novels, comics, film) and characters pages that is more detailed, including mentions as well as appearances, with media pages listing the appearances and mentions of characters, vehicles, locations and other appearances. Something like Wookieepedia for both media and character pages.

I was also wondering if there will ever be a chronological order timeline of media, also like Wookieepedia. I feel that it may add something to the Wiki and give more detailed information on characters and media. Roger Murtaugh (talk) 21:38, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I'm not opposed to the idea. I'd suggest you make a forum post or vote about it to see what other people think of it. And as for the timeline of chronology, I've toyed with that idea in my head too a while back. Even though it's bound to get quite messy since all the games and comics and such have two stories set in different parts of the timeline running parallel that might not be a bad idea. -- 15:12, December 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the response. The appearances on pages would be easier. The chronological order may be more difficult to get right, but I'm sure that it could be done. Roger Murtaugh (talk) 19:35, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

No title
Master Sima Yi, I am a new user on this wiki and I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to advance my self to contributing more and to maybe some form of administrative status ( over time of course). Any advice helps. Shay Snicket (talk) 05:59, January 3, 2017 (UTC)Shay Snicket

Have you read all our policies yet? -- 16:02, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Sly Cooper Wiki wordmark
Hello,

I'm a bureaucrat for the Sly Cooper Wiki, which this wiki is an affiliate of. I just wanted to let you know that we have changed our logo, and it can be found. It is for use in your affiliates section on the main page.

Thank you.

Portable Infoboxes on the Assassins Creed Wiki
Hello,

since you are an active admin on the Assassins Creed Wiki as well I would like to inform you that I've started a discussion here about migrating to portable infoboxes on the AC Wiki.

Cyanide3 16:52, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

"Colonial Assassins" locked from renaming
Hey Master Sima Yi, were you the one that locked the page Colonial Assassins from being moved? Its name has been confirmed to officially be the "Colonial Brotherhood (of Assassins)" in The Essential Guide, and I would like to move it there to be consistent with our usage of official names for Templar branches. In fact, I have already renamed all the Assassin branches with canonically confirmed names accordingly. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 21:16, February 14, 2017 (UTC)

I have adjusted its protection settings. -- 08:46, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

Peruvian Brotherhood
I noticed that the page has been deleted. I wish to discuss the possibility of restoring it. The main reason I concluded that this Brotherhood existed is due to the fact that, at the end of Setting Sun, Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a quipu containing a password to enter the Brotherhood. Either he expected Quila to sail all the way to Spain in order to contact the Spanish Brotherhood, or he was referring to a local branch that she had a realistic possibility of contacting. He also seemed rather confident that the password would work even though he hadn't been to Spain in at least 3 years, as well as the fact that it's highly unlikely that the Spanish Brotherhood would use the phrase "cute pishtaco", which is a reference to a boogeyman figure from the Andes region of South America. What I'm basically getting at is that Gonzalo Pardo's conversation with Quila at the end of Setting Sun makes little to no sense if no local Brotherhood existed. The Wikia Editor (talk) 00:45, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

I had already restored it. -- 23:47, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I hadn't noticed, thank you. The Wikia Editor (talk) 01:04, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Changes to Template Wiki
Hi Sima, I hope you're well?

I've made a minor proposal on Template talk:Wiki with a view to improving the distinction between internal links and those going to Wikipedia. I was hoping you'd take a look, comment, and assuming there's no objections, action the change? I would have gone to Vatsa, the user who originally created the template, but I've noticed that he is, like me, no longer particularly active. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 09:52, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Help with moving Portuguese Assassins
Hey, so a user just moved the pages "Portuguese Brotherhood of Assassins", Australian Brotherhood of Assassins, and Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins to Portuguese Assassins, "Australian Assassins", and "Babylonian Assassins". He then curiously enough moved the latter two back but did not do the same with "Portuguese Assassins". I tried moving back "Portuguese Assassins", but I am unable to do so because the page "Portuguese Brotherhood of Assassins" already exists, and I know I should not be manually moving it through copy & paste. I wonder how that editor was able to accomplish the move back with the latter two articles then.

A side-note about the page moves. I do not know why he did it; I just sent a message asking him. "Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins" is actually a canonically verified name. Thus far, the community has agreed upon using the same format for the conjectural names of the other branches for the sake of consistency. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 16:02, March 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I just found the "revert" button in the Move log which fixed the issue easily. I had a prior experience long ago in Wookieepedia where I needed an administrator to perform a move to an already existing page, but in this case, there was the possibility of revert, so all good. I should have checked that before writing a pointless message. xD Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 16:08, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Religion of Organizations
Hey Master Sima Yi,

There is a user going around adding religions to the religion parameter of the various Assassin and Templar branches. There are a few issues with this.

The first is that my understanding is that that parameter describes the religion endorsed (especially officially) by the organization, rather than the religious demographics. The editor seems to see it as describing religious demographics, hence why he lists "Irreligious" alongside "Christianity", "Islam", etc. However, I worry that this gives the wrong impression to readers that the Assassin branches officially endorse these religions, when in fact, they're an irreligious organization with quotes expressly supporting an agnostic way of thinking while also heavily suggesting atheism. Now, if the religion parameter is describing religious demographics not the official religion of the organization, it may be different, as in spite of the Assassins' beliefs, there have been at least a few religious Assassins (Raphael Sánchez and Luis de Santángel both having been Jews).

However, if we follow by his interpretation of what the religion parameter means, there is another issue, and that is that he is assuming the religious demographics of these branches based entirely on the religions of the region they're based. He assumed "Buddhism" for Chinese Assassins just because Buddhism is a major religion in China, Catholicism for the French Templars, "various" for the American Assassins and Templars, and so-forth. I have tried to talk to him, but he's not very communicative. He went ahead and added a few games as citations, but I find them dubious because I don't remember encounter anything of the sort in AC3 explaining that the Assassins of the Colonial Brotherhood were of various faiths or that the Ottoman Assassins were Muslim. Furthermore, Arno's quote at the end of Unity explains that "No higher power sits in judgment of us. No supreme being watches to punish us for our sins." while Altaïr in AC1 says "To recognize nothing is true and everything is permitted. That laws arise not from divinity, but reason." This seems to repudiate the idea that the Levantine Assassins are Muslim like they are historically or that the French Assassins are Catholic. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 19:00, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

There are reasons we haven't included any religions on these pages up until now, and you've listed them here. These organizations as a whole do not follow any religion and therefore it's unnecessary and confusing to say so. -- 12:52, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Sent email
Hey Master Sima Yi,

a few days ago I sent you an email. Did you get it? Would be great if you find some minutes to take a look. Thanks! Springteufel aka Julia Springteufel (talk) 13:07, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

My apologies, the past months have been very hectic. I have responded. -- 12:53, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed
what did you think of the movie -- 19:40, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Sophia Rikkin
do you think Sophia Rikkin will go in to a Animus if so how will having a ancestor in common with Callum Lynch affect her -- 03:09, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Translation of name of Assassins in Chinese
Hey Master Sima Yi, I brought this issue up more than a year back before I was a regular contributor, but at the time I received no reply probably because no one had any answer to it, but since it seems like you have contact with people at Ubisoft, I was wondering if you could ask them about this the next time you get to meet with them again. It's not really urgent, but I do think it's quite important should they ever make a game set in an East Asian setting.

So as we know in English, the word "assassin" is derived from the Assassin organization itself, with the true etymology of the organization's name unknown. This is quite clever because one can theorize that the Templars somehow manipulated the evolution of language such that the name of their sworn enemies became identical to a common word for a killer, if it's possible for them to do that. If it had been the other way around, that the Assassins derived their name from the word itself, it would have been odd that the organization would name themselves a word with negative connotations.

However, this is not the case in non-European languages. In Chinese and Japanese, the word for "assassin", cì​kè or shikaku (刺客) is not derived from the Assassin organization. Instead, it literally translates to "stab guest". So, in other words, the Assassin name did not become the word for "assassin" or "killer" in East Asian languages.

But this is where Ubisoft seems to have messed up. In Chinese versions of the games and in Chronicles: China, the Chinese Assassins refer to themselves as cì​kè (刺客, lit. "stab guest", i.e. guest-stabber). They have it backwards! They seemed to have thought that they could just take the word for "assassin" in other languages and say that is the name of the organization in those languages. This means Chinese Assassins named themselves "guest-stabber" which does not make any remote sense, especially since the Assassin organization is supposed to predate these terms, and its name original to them. A proper translation of the name of "Assassin" in East Asian languages won't be their word for "assassin" which for the purposes of translation is a completely different term. It makes more sense for the Chinese and Japanese branches to either have transliterated the Arabic name or invented their own original names, not basically name themselves "killers" or "murderers".

Also, I am supposing that this translation error is not limited to just the Chinese and Japanese, but just about any other language where the word for "assassin" isn't actually derived from the medieval Islamic organization of the Assassins. For example, I don't know if this error is also made in Chronicles: India in Punjabi (or Hindi? pardon my ignorance as to what language they spoke in that game).

I'm sorry if this sounds confusing to you. I think this is really important to bring up to Ubisoft about because if they ever were to make a game set in China or Japan or India, this would be a critical, glaring error even if Western audiences mostly won't notice it. I'm not sure if maybe they have thought about this, but it doesn't seem like they have since this mistake is made in Chronicles: China. So I was wondering if you could ask Ubisoft about this at some point. :P Doesn't have to be soon, but just at some point, before they entrench this mistake in making a game set in Asian settings, unless I can contact them myself. This would have been one of the questions I would've asked you to ask them if you met them at E3, except it's not about Origins. xD Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 00:19, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

Considering this comes from the Chinese versions of the game(s?) and Chronicles: China, a game where the main writers were not part of the core Ubisoft team, I can tell you with almost certainty that bringing this up with any of my contacts won't get you a satisfying answer. That being said, the main games have enough people working on them that they'd be sure not to make such a silly error. The teams for the big games are backed by historians and linguists, who surely will pluck out any such error and make sure that consistency is being upheld. I don't really want to bring up something just in case they might make some error. :P -- 10:45, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Didn't reply to this earlier because I thought you're totally right. However, I think I should maybe notify you that Ubisoft is consistently making a grammar error in regards to the emperors' names. That is, they are abbreviating the Zhengde Emperor and the Jiajing Emperor as Zhengde and Jiajing or even sometimes referring to them as Emperor Zhengde and Emperor Jiajing across multiple sources. This is incorrect because Zhengde and Jiajing are actually not their names, but the name of their era (i.e. ""). In other words calling the Zhengde Emperor or the Jiajing Emperor by their era names is equivalent to calling Pope Alexander VI "Pope Renaissance" or even just "Renaissance". It just so happens that for the Ming and Qing dynasties specifically (not the previous dynasties), the emperors decided to equate each era with each monarch's reign, making it convenient as an identifier, but at the end of the day, they're still not their actual names. This is why it's ordered backwards: "the Jiajing Emperor" which using the aforementioned example is the equivalent of "the Renaissance (era) Pope" or the "Pope of the Renaissance era" (which of course doesn't work to distinguish Alexander VI because there were multiple popes in the Renaissance, but this is not the case with Ming emperors where 1 reign = 1 era).


 * I'm seeing this error repeated so often in Ubisoft sources that it's clear they didn't do their research on this matter. :-/ For more information: does provide some basic guidelines about it. You don't have to contact Ubisoft about something so relatively minor in the end, but I just thought I should let you know.  Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 19:54, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Citing Wikipedia
Hey Master Sima Yi, so I know I've talked about this with you before. We have an issue in our articles where we often feel the need to bring in basic information from non-AC sources for the quality of our articles. Everyone here seems to be okay with that, given how often we take basic dates from Wikipedia. Sometimes it's because certain things that are common knowledge to us isn't expressly stated in an AC source because it's common knowledge so it's already expected that we would know. This is especially an issue with articles on events that really happened which aren't covered by database entries because it becomes difficult to explain even the basics of what the event is without drawing a little from non-AC sources. There's a point where the line gets blurred though, where people might debate whether information we're taking from outside sources is "basic" enough.

Anyways, because we have this practice, I propose that it'd be better to cite to Wikipedia or whatever other source when these cases arise. I know that Wikipedia isn't normally a source that's "citable", but this is a wiki in and of itself (so kind of like an extension of Wikipedia), and I think if people are taking stuff like death dates and whatnot (or really basic, common knowledge info like "Madrid is the capital city of Spain" even though that's not technically stated explicitly in an AC source), then it's better to be honest about where we're taking that information from rather than not citing it at all. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 13:52, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Most of this basic information is limited to the intro, where we never cite any such sources. That being said I can see how this might be some kind of problem especially when clear lines aren't drawn. I propose we make some adjustment to the sourcing policy for this kind of exception. I'm no fan of citing Wikipedia as a source but I can see your point. Has there been a discussion about this anywhere? I would like to see other people's opinions before drawing my own conclusion. -- 10:48, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * No, there really hasn't been any discussion on this matter just yet. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 11:08, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Whall we start a discussion? And can you link me to an instance where this has been an issue? Also, apologies for my late replies; it's finally the Summer holiday now so I can get back to you now on an almost daily basis. -- 15:55, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, I just started a discussion on it. As is my usual habit, it might be too long-winded, and I'm afraid that would just ward away other editors from bothering to deal with it unfortunately. Maybe I should write a tl;dr version... This is one of the reasons why I have been late in starting this discussion. I've been rather discouraged by the lack of participation in other recent discussions on policies.
 * There are many examples, but I think one that stands out is War on Terror. The article should probably stand because it's referenced as the conflict in Emmanuel Barraza's backstory which led him to be who he is, but other than a reference, AC doesn't explain what it is at all; it'd be assumed we already know anyways. This article demonstrates confusion over where the line is crossed. The creator added an infobox filled with participants and commanders, but while all of these are "basic information", they're just so numerous it feels like it might cross the line, especially with its mention of real-life people like Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi and Donald Trump. I rewrote the article myself, and I tried to explain what it basically is without going too far, but I mentioned things like 9/11 and the Syrian Civil War. I did this partly just as an exhibit for the discussion though, to test whether people think that is too far or not.
 * Another example is Roanoke Colony, referenced in AC3 multiplayer but in a way that where understanding of it relies on prior knowledge of the historical Roanoke Colony, i.e. AC never actually say it was an English colony that mysteriously vanished, but it references it in such a way where it is expected us to know if we are to understand its meaning.
 * Sierra de Cazorla is a recent and small but classic example. We could technically just write that it's "the location of an Assassin base" and nothing else, but since it's obviously based off of the real Sierra de Cazorla, it just feels better to just explain what it's obviously meant to be: the same thing, which is a mountain range in Spain specifically. Though maybe this example is thrown out the window since sierra means "mountain" in Spanish. I have plenty of other examples, but I would show those later. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 03:35, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

The War on Terror article has been butchered beyond any reason. This does not line up with the vision we've upheld for articles and these infoboxes are in total disregard of set policies. That being said, like I said, we've always maintained a leniency regarding unsourced info in introductions to articles and I don't see how that needs to change; provided this information stays minimal and as basic as should be. This has never proven to be an issue in the past and to me seems only to arise from people wanting to add more and more information when that is not necessary (or even possible). I also do not see why people are starting to source to Wikipedia when our guidelines clearly state Wikipedia is not a source. I will get on this as soon as I get back home. -- 09:54, July 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * People aren't starting to source to Wikipedia. I only did that for two articles: Sierra de Cazorla and Roanoke Colony in advance for for this discussion to serve as examples and only because I know those are small pages. The reasoning behind it, as I explained in my forum post, is that we're taking information from Wikipedia anyways regardless of whether we source to it or not. In my perspective, I think it's a bit dishonest and awkward to rely on Wikipedia but then shy away from declaring it. But where are we taking these basic information, these dates? Not citing to it doesn't change the fact that we used it, is what I mean, and I think having unsourced information is worse than sourcing to a non-authoritative source that we honestly used. Alternatively for these basic information, we should source to more authoritative sources. My perspective is that it's that having any unsourced information even the most basic like dates and birthplaces is an issue, so I don't think that this problem necessarily arose just because people are adding more information than necessary. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 13:04, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of "speculative" Assassin & Templar branches
I'm afraid you might have been a little hasty with the deletion of the articles concerning Assassin and Templar branches. They were offered up for discussion not for outright deletion. What happened was that Bovkaffe marked virtually all the branches for deletion, but the Wikia Editor removed most of the tags asserting that there should be a discussion over them first (indeed many of the ones marked for deletion for legitimate). I actually pointed out to the Wikia Editor that technically the "Deletion" headers are to prompt people to discuss the articles' deletion not for them to necessarily delete them outright so he shouldn't have removed the tags before the discussions were over.

At the same time, we were nervous that if the deletion templates stayed, an administrator would delete them outright without realizing that we were in the midst of discussing them. The Wikia Editor had removed almost all of the deletion tags for these articles. I'm not sure for the ones that remained, whose articles you deleted, did he just miss them or did he consent to their deletion, but I would have felt more comfortable for us to have gotten a chance to look over each of them one by one to verify whether all of them really were speculative. Because certainly, at least half of the ones that were initially marked for deletion (removed by the Wikia Editor) were not. And now we just had a user recreate the article Norwegian Brotherhood of Assassins. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 00:14, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Since the dawn of this wiki, a deletion template means the article should be deleted. Whenever I'm able I clear everything from the Candidates for deletion category, because everything in there is always up for deletion. I have to head out right now so I'll get on this when I'm back and restore the pages. I will ask to refrain from keeping the tags up in the future, because it'd be time-consuming for everyone to add tags in the first place and for me to check if every article should be deleted. Having just taken a look at the previous version of the Norwegian Brotherhood page, an American Assassin being located in Norway doesn't point to a Norwegian Brotherhood. -- 09:59, July 17, 2017 (UTC)


 * I wish to clarify that the articles on which I left the deletion tags were either articles whose deletion I either consented to (such as the Mexican Brotherhood), or of which I was uncertain. For example, we know that there are Abstergo Industries facilities located in the Netherlands, South Korea and Australia, but does this qualify as a Rite? We don't really know. We know that there are still seperate Grand Masters in charge of different Abstergo branches (such as in the United Stated, Mexico and Cuba). We know that Assassin cells can still be considered Brotherhoods, as is the case with the Osaka and Russian Brotherhoods, but, from what Sol Pacificus has told me, the Essential Guide seems to avoid the topic of whether different Abstergo facilities are considered part of the Rites in the countries they are located in. The Wikia Editor (talk) 12:56, July 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah alright, thanks for clarifying that the Wikia Editor. :) Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 13:09, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Are there any articles then whose deletion was still unwarranted? -- 16:33, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Irish Brotherhood (we know that an Irish Assassin was present during the Irish War of Independence, as mentioned in Employee Handbook) Irish Rite (the Templars were mentioned to be a constant threat to Irish workman John O'Brien in his homeland, see the Carpenter hack profile in Abstergo Story) Czech Rite (the primary headquarters of the Templar Order was located in Prague during the 18th century, as mentioned in Forsaken) Australian Rite, Guatemalan Rite, South Korean Rite (there are Abstergo Industries facilities are located in these countries, it should be discussed whether these can qualify as Rites) These (and possibly others) should be discussed in this thread that I had created a while ago. The Wikia Editor (talk) 19:20, July 17, 2017 (UTC)
 * The only ones that I still consider to up for debate would be:
 * It's nice that we finally have an admin back to discuss these things we've been bringing up on the forums. :P Unless that is, Sima Yi, you disappear tomorrow and do not return for another two months. I'm personally against assuming the presence of an Abstergo facility = a Rite, but I probably already mentioned that in the thread. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 18:32, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Considering that I plan to dedicate my Summer holiday to graduating uni I won't be as active as you'd hope I fear. However I'm not the only admin here, and I'm sad to see the other staffers are also occupied otherwise. And I'm in full agreement with you, Sol. Having a presence somewhere doesn't indicate the existence of a Brotherhood or Rite. -- 15:47, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

North European Brotherhood
As I mentioned on the German Brotherhood talk page, we don't actually know where the North European Brotherhood resides. I suggest that we create a seperate article titled "North European Brotherhood of Assassins" and include information from the Revelations novel, everything else can basically be kept in the German Brotherhood article because we're not given any indication that they don't exist seperately from the North European Brotherhood. The Wikia Editor (talk) 22:04, July 19, 2017 (UTC)
 * It's done. The Wikia Editor (talk) 23:05, July 20, 2017 (UTC)

Precursor box issue
Hey Master Sima Yi, I believe you're familiar with the issue about whether there is one Precursor box in the series, with all of them the same, or whether Ezio's box is different from Shay's box? It's very convoluted, so I'd rather not to explain it if you're already familiar. I know you were part of the discussion that took place in Talk:Precursor boxes. In any case, as a user pointed out (and as did DipsonDP), Aymar actually confirmed that all the boxes are the same in a recent AMA about 4 months back. This does make the most sense, especially because of the War Letter in Rogue which I see you pointed out before. You can see the most recent discussion on this here. However, Aymar not only contradicts Richard Farrese but also The Essential Guide which very clearly states that there are two boxes. The Essential Guide is a recent source, but not as recent as Aymar's AMA.

In any case, we really should resolve this once and for all. I think this might be something we really should contact them about for clarification. Aymar did give his answer, but he didn't address the inconsistency. Otherwise, I'd be in favor of taking Aymar's word as the most authoritative source because (a) he's the head of content (b) I personally think Rogue's writers, including Farrese did not have a good grasp on the lore (c) it's the most recent word on it (d) The Essential Guide does say there are two boxes almost certainly referring to Ezio's box and Shay's box as distinct, but it actually does not explicitly describe the other box, meaning we can assume that the first box is the box that the entire series has shown while the latter simply has never appeared even if this is probably not what the writers of the book intended. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 19:32, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

What a mess this is. Alright, I'll send the brand members an email tonight to ask for clarification. -- 15:33, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Discussions and Assassin's Creed Wiki
Hi Master Sima Yi,

I am following up on the subject of the Discussions feature. From past conversations I know that there is not much enthusiasm from the Assassin's Creed editing community regarding this feature. As you may know, eventually the Forum will be retired and have its content migrated to Discussions. In fact, we just posted a blog about Forum migration on Community Central today. With its very active Forum, we don’t have any immediate plans to migrate this community’s Forum, just to be clear. But that will happen eventually.

However, due to an internal miscommunication, Discussions was enabled in the Assassin’s Creed community app early in 2017. Normally Discussions is also enabled on the desktop portion of the community at the same time, but this did not occur, so most of the editing community is likely unaware of Discussions. However, the users in the app have formed a very solid subcommunity of their own. No one from the wiki side needs to get involved in Discussions unless they wish to do that, but we do need to enable the web component of the feature in order to make the full suite of moderation tools available. FANDOM and some volunteer users will be providing moderation, so I want to reiterate that nothing new is being required from you or other admins and editors right now.

We expect to enable the web portion of Discussions today or tomorrow, at which time you’ll see the “Discuss” menu item appear in the top navigation.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. -BertH (help forum | blog) 17:54, August 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your open mind! You are correct Discussions will replace Forum, and all threads will be transferred (or "migrated" as we are saying) there before that happens. You can read some of the details at Help:Discussions FAQ. Let us know if you have any questions about that. The web portion of Discussions is now enabled and you can see it at http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/d
 * You have a local user group available called "Discussions Moderators" and users in that group have moderation options in the feature. The only thing that is restricted to admins is setting up the categories, which are the equivalent of boards in the Forum. Right now there are no categories, everything goes into "General" which is invisible to regular users until more than one category exists. The activity level right now may not require categories, but it's interesting to think about as you look ahead. I suggest checking out some very active Discussions areas, such as Fallout Wiki and DC Database to get a sense of how things work with categories and moderation. -BertH (help forum | blog) 18:50, August 14, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for following up. As you guys begin to moderate, please reach out to FANDOM if you have questions, feedback or if you encounter any problems that you would like help with. I encourage those editors who get involved to introduce yourselves to the users in Discussons, and to seek their feedback and suggestions as well. It's a different experience for users than it is on the wiki, and the same assumptions may not apply.
 * As for a forced migration timeline, I do not have any details right now. We plan to have a replacement for Forum's 'Highlight' function released first, and also to have some text formatting tools in Discussions, before the final migrations happen. And since we don't have specific release schedules for those things yet, there is no schedule for anything beyond. The path for Discussions development has been "slow, but doing it right" so we're not necessarily rushing toward some specific fixed date. We'll me making announcements on Community Central and via sitewide messages (the lower-right bubble) as we reach milestones and settle on specific dates. -BertH (help forum | blog) 18:04, September 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, you may wish to consider using w:c:dev:DiscussionsFeed which creates a new RecentChanges-style special page showing Discussions activity. For some communities this has proven to be a useful tool. -BertH (help forum | blog) 18:06, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Volunteer Curator Program
Hi Master Sima Ya,

We're creating a new program at FANDOM called the Volunteer Curator Program - our goal is to invite members of key communities to help us curate/feature content for our editorial site, Fandom.com. I've posted a blog post detailing the program and I'm wondering if you and the admin team would be ok with me posting a community corner message on the wiki announcing the post and program. Thanks! Jen Burton (help forum | blog) 18:08, August 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Master Sima Ya! I wouldn't be making any design changes to your wiki and would, instead, just create a small notification bubble in the lower right corner of the screen. I'd like to leave it active for a week. Jen Burton (help forum | blog) 19:37, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Chatting
Hi Master Sima Yi,

I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with the IRC or Discord. I'm interested in hearing about the ideas you have lined up, so maybe I can hear about them somewhere else, like a thread or something. The Wikia Editor (talk) 20:20, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

List of improvements for the wiki
Hey Master Sima Yi, so as you asked me on the IRC, I am compiling a list of issues we could address on this wiki. I just wanted to give you a heads-up that I'm delaying sharing it with you immediately because I suspect that there will still be more things in mind that I have probably missed so I'm waiting a few days to see if they come back up to me. Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 04:17, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

Discord
Hi Sima, my apologies for the late reply but I've only just logged back in over the weekend. I've set up a Discord account as suggested (you'll probably have noticed that before you even read this message) and I've tabbed it to my browser. Happy to chat re the Sourcing policy whenever you're able. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 12:52, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Renaming of Articles
Hello there Master Sima Yi, after further readings, I believed that the names and articles of Samuel Parris and William Stoughton have been mixed up. I've read the comics quite a bit to identify who is who, so I can confirm that their names should be swapped. As such, I would like to request a change of the articles names, thank you.

Regards, XOdeyssusx (talk) 14:56, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. The comics themselves have swapped the names up. If you pay attention to the first arc you'll notice that in between issues the names get swapped. However, this is how it should actually be. -- 13:19, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Real Individuals
Hello, i'm kinda new to the editing system, and today I got the idea of creating a category for Real Individuals. I added some for it, but it happens it has been deleted and I can no longer do it. Can you help me? Thanks already

jeanlsm  12:17 09/09/2017

IRL image policy
Hello,

I am working on fleshing out trivia sections for the AC weapons and especially shedding light on their real life background. As such I am wondering if adding RL images to their trivia sections would be allowed in order to illustrate what was used for references? Nanomat (talk) 16:06, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Fandom partners with Ubisoft for Origins
Hi, Master Sima Yi!

Fandom has entered into a partnership with Ubisoft :) Due to the upcoming release of Assassin's Creed: Origins, they're offering to supply our design team with visual assets. The purpose is to use them to provide the wiki with a new logo, background, and other design features. The main impact is generally seen on the Main Page. We do our best to seek community approval before the new designs are implemented.

Please respond and let us know if you and your community would be interested in our help with a visual update. We would do our best to make sure it reflects the upcoming game as much as possible without losing the features you feel are most important to your users. Our most recent admin and community collaboration can be seen at the Mass Effect wiki. I will personally be here to help answer questions or concerns, and of course, to help with editing once the game is released if you need it; the heavy lifting in terms of design implementation will likely be performed by JoePlay or a member of his team.

Please let me know soon! Thanks. Raylan13 ( talk ) 15:30, October 3, 2017 (UTC)
 * Just giving this a lil' bump. Raylan13 ( talk ) 20:45, October 6, 2017 (UTC)