User talk:Amnestyyy

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Welcome
Welcome to my userpage! Don't hesitate to leave me a message if you need anything :) Nesty  Contact me! 20:29, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Deleted pgs
I see you deleted the pgs for Yıldırım Bayezid I, Orhan Ghazi, Murat II, Murat I & Mehmet I Çelebi. But I think you forgot to get their redirects (unless it's impossible?): Bayezid I, Orhan, Murat II, and Mehmet I. If you can get them, could you please also wipe these redirects I'd made? (Freedom Cry music, Dead Kings music, & Jack the Ripper music) Sima advised I rename them, but seems I left unused redirects. Oh, and could you reply to my TopNavBar thread (in Archive 4 now) You never got back to me on that. --Darman (talk) 00:01, May 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * 7x done. And yes, I can get back to you. Your solution seems to be the best one out of the options, and I will implement it as soon as Wikia stops being a butthead and lets me make the changes I want. Sorry for not letting you know this sooner - the way I had it in my mind, I would just have made the changes, and you'd have seen that I had done so, and it'd all be settled just fine. But yeah, I didn't make the changes and didn't get back to you. My bad. :( Keep up the good work! Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 00:06, May 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for deleting. *sigh*...If we could operate Wikia, hmm? It's Ok, we've been busy; I'm trying to finish the ACS weapon charts...having not bought the game & must use YT for stats. Since you can wipe redirects: I've put a small list of redirects in my Sandbox, but don't know if they should be wiped (if any). Could you please take a look? I've considered Apprenticeship, but have to find 3 big edits. Looking at previous logs, I know some assignments have time constraints, but I don't know how frequently I'll be here, with work, school & all. Any advice? --Darman (talk) 06:07, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

I'll have a look at your sandbox later today. As for the Apprenticeship - it's a great way to learn the wikia and all its aspects. Assignments can have time constraints, but that really depends on your Mentor, and it will generally be discussed before anything is agreed upon. I myself am not really that fond of setting deadlines, since I prefer good work over fast work. Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 10:00, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Info
Hello

First of all, as a AC fan, thanks for creating this wikia along with your friends. It helps a lot. Second, I'm from Chile and I want to ask you something. I'm thinking about making videos for Latinoamerican Fans that don't understand english and I would use this wikia as my main source of information. (Because it's good, it's perfect). My mission, as fan, is to show things some AC fans from here doesn't know and guide the new ones so they can't lose themself in reading and playing. Can I use the information written in this wiki in my videos? Of course, I would give you credit about it.

That's all and once again, thank you.

Cristophorus35 (talk) 02:01, June 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello! Since Wikia is a public website, everyone is free to use the information on it in whatever way they please. So, yes, you're more than welcome to use our information in your videos! If you need help with anything, let me know! :) Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 11:15, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Greetings
Can you you send an PNG photo (File:ACI-Ezio.png) in the Heroes Wiki (hero.wikia.com)? I promise I'll give credit when it is due. --AlexHoskins (talk) 22:19, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * You can just save the file to your PC, and then upload it on your wikia yourself. Unless there's a particular reason you can't, I really see no reason to do it for you... ;) --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 22:21, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Greetings
I tried to upload it with my iPad, but couldn't because of the iPad incapatibity and my mother was busy on her computer. Sorry--AlexHoskins (talk) 00:13, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

NavBar pt 2
Before you implement the navBar changes, I think I found another problem: the all-encompassing "Media" TopBar should be linked to Category:Assassin's Creed series instead of "Category:Real world video games", as it'll have games, comics, etc.(minor issue, really), but I'm worried about the subheaders – if Main / Other Games are individual sub-headers, what happens to the Ezio Trilogy & Kenway Saga sections, which under the current format are subheaders with drop-down menus? If we have it like I initially described it, as this: Top    Sub           Dropdown       (Sub-submenu?) Media > Main Games > AC1 > Ezio Trilogy > AC2, ACBH, ACRV > Kenway Saga > AC3, Lib, AC4, ACRG > etc.

> Other Games > Altaïr's Chronicles > Bloodlines > etc.

> Comics, etc. won't it be messy? --Darman (talk) 00:30, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * It is a bit of a puzzle, isn't it? Anyhow, I think we might have to accept the possibility that we simply cannot list every individual installment in the topnav. Assassin's Creed might simply have grown too large for that to work out properly... --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 09:42, June 4, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. If we removed the Ezio Trilogy & Kenway Saga drop-downs (& re-created "Kenway Saga" pg...for the 5th time), it'd be easier. BUT I've got a feeling many people come here who aren't as into the lore as we are, so the labels may be confusing to the uninitiated. Oh, you categorized your talk pg as a Stub & Revamp. Was it intentional? --Darman (talk) 02:50, June 5, 2016 (UTC)


 * Is ^this idea better, or should we forgo linking individual games and just link to the Games, Comics, Novels and Films cateogries instead? --Darman (talk) 13:50, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Hmm.. I don't know how send message and you can only to see it, but can I take pictures and make like avatars or layouts (?) if I writte to them they are taken here or are they free to use?Korppi1 (talk) 13:07, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * I... am not exactly sure what you are asking... Could you rephrase your question to clarify? --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 00:36, June 5, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think they wanted to send their question as a PM so only you could see it. It seems they were wondering if they could take pics from here & make avatars, etc., so long as they sourced it to this wiki, or if the images here were essentially public domain. --Darman (talk) 02:50, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Greetings
Hello there! I am fresh meat, so to speak. This is the first time I've ever joined a wiki. I've decided to start giving back. Very quickly:

1) I wanted to reach out and touch base with you to establish a "working relationship" (for lack of better terms)

2) Are there any quick tip links, or genereal advice you can give me on working with this wiki?

Thank you in advance for you time, and I look forward to, well, "paying it forward" as I've used wiki sites religiously.

Dread Loch (talk) 23:00, June 4, 2016 (UTC) Dread Loch


 * Hello, and welcome to our lovely little corner of the internet! You could check out to find articles that are in need of expansion, or  for articles that do not adhere to our Manual of Style (the link to which you should have received in the welcome message on your talk page.). If you need more specific pointers, feel free to let me know! :) --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 00:36, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me
I left you a reason above :)--AlexHoskins (talk) 02:22, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

I mean can I use images/pictures for free if I take them here? (My english isn't f´good sorry :c )Korppi1 (talk) 03:46, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, images on Wikia are free for the taking. Depending on the where you use them, giving credit to AC wikia for the image would be the nice thing to do ;) --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 06:46, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

So, could you send that photo (File:ACI-Ezio.png) in the Heroes Wiki (hero.wikia.com), Nesty?--AlexHoskins (talk) 15:05, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 11:48, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Database duplicate
Just a heads up that the ACBH Database has a duplicate/wrong link: you link to Database: Castel Sant’Angelo, when you should link to Database: Castel Sant'Angelo (note difference in apostrophe styles), which you created 2 months prior to the former duplicate. --Darman (talk) 01:54, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's fixed now. --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 10:15, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Jenkins (Sigma)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought Trooper A (arbitrary) woke up Elina, and Warren told Jenkins to give Juhani his gun to shoot Trooper A. --Darman (talk) 13:50, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll be honest with you: While I consider myself to be very knowledgeable about the AC-franchise, that knowledge does not so much include multiplayer matters. I'm not that fond of any multiplayer, and found AC's multiplayer to be particularly... well, let's just say I didn't like it much. Someone else created the Jenkins article, and I merely did some MoS updating and added some templates - I had planned to check out the specifics of the content later, but I'm seriously swamped with work and personal stuff at the moment, so my regular working speed is still at an all-time low... :( Feel free to correct the article if you know right from wrong, and keep up the good work! :)--Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 15:17, June 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Looked into it and honestly, we don't know much about this guy. There's no record of Sigma Team prior to 2012. But in an attempt to rename and rewrite it, I realized we don't know if he's a Templar, Abstergo, or just a random merc hired for that one job. Darman's right too; we don't even know if he was killed. The only thing we know about him is he was there, and he handed Berg his gun. "Vidic's New Recruit" if you want to double-check. 21:32, June 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * Nesty, I didn't mean to appear to question your series knowledge, though I hope everything works out on your end. I was asking what Stormbeast said in more words: we know Jenkins was there, but based on audio alone, how do we know he was killed? I probably should've elaborated from the start. I thought he was either a ramdon merc or low-ranking Abstergo, but we can't verify either because he had such a brief appearance and he may be dead. Do he even need a page? His "end" is so ambiguous; he could've died then, or during the failed Florence raid, etc. it's so unclear. --Darman (talk) 08:10, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Database
If i could leave a suggestion, I would ask if you guys could keep the databases with the specific game it belongs to instead of dumping it together. I'm trying to find all the info for syndicate and it's difficult looking through all of it, since it seems to be one huge mess instead of organized fodler. 73.79.234.148 11:46, July 7, 2016 (UTC) HBT1694
 * The Database page is currently under construction, but will eventually have a neat list of all databases separated per game, just like the Chronicles databases are already on there. It's taking a little longer for me to get everything done due to some personal issues, though. Sorry 'bout that. --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 19:23, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

IRC
Shall we go about discussing a plan de campagne? -- 12:06, July 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm currently on holiday, with internet that's beyond spotty. I'll try to hop onto the IRC whenever circumstances allow it, though. --Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 12:13, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

There's no rush. I'd instead advise you to enjoy your holiday. -- 12:16, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Interwiki links - Flag icons
Hello, Amnestyyy!

I would like to know your opinion about it: Thread:206794 (I'm talking to all Assassin's Creed wikis about it).

Best Regards! :) TheCreedX (talk) 17:43, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Ezio Auditore edits
Care to explain why my idea for a section about core Arsenal was vetoed?

Muhtadi Choudhury (talk) 21:40, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to apologize for my rudeness in the earlier message. I am not here to make enemies....it just seemed odd that such a change was reversed.Muhtadi Choudhury (talk) 21:44, September 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * Firstly, there was already a section named 'Equipment and skills' where all the information was already more or less present. Secondly, our Manual of Style dictates that we write everything from an in-universe point of view, making no mention of the player, the games, or anything else that makes the information 'real-world' perspective, rather than the perspective of the 'in-game world.' I hope that clarifies why I made the decision to undo your edit. Amnestyyy (Contact me!) 21:48, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

My apologies. It seems I have much to learn - and yet as someone without a next-gen console, little to contribute. Pleased to meet you, I hope to learn more from youMuhtadi Choudhury (talk) 21:50, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Corruption section in Assassins article
Hey Amnesty, I probably should have contacted others for their opinion a while ago on this matter. There is an ongoing debate between another user and me in regards to the "Corruption" section in the Assassins article, and we may have reached an impasse. The debate is the lengthiest discussion you'd find on this wiki, I think ._. ... and it extends into my own talk page and that user's talk page, and as such is probably extremely difficult to follow, so here is a summary of the dispute:

A few years ago, a user created the "Controversy" section in the article because he felt that Assassins, as the protagonists, are viewed too positively by the audience and thus the article should "balance" this out by incorporating criticisms of them. Unfortunately, the section was nothing but vitriolic ranting, violating the policy of no original research and NPOV wile also being unsourced. When I revamped part of the article, I wanted to remove this section outright, but other users maintained that it should stand because the article could benefit from posing an opposing perspective of the Assassins to neutralize their moral ground. I personally thought that having a biased counter-perspective doesn't really promote NPOV, and rather there should be balance throughout the article, and this is at the core of of the disagreement. Even so, I worked with it, changing it to "Corruption" to explain cases of corrupt Assassins instead, such as Assassins of Rogue or Mackandal.

But predictably, this led to a debate over which cases constitute "corruption" or not, especially in regards to Ezio's actions in Revelations. Even using the term "corruption" in the first place, I am not entirely comfortable with, and a more objective term might be "cases of violations to the creed".

We should be doing our best to avoid original research. The entire section itself, or the concept of it, may pretty much violate that altogether.

My proposal is that if we are to retain this section, however, we should only state cases which are explicitly cited as "violations" or "corruption" and/or cases that served as major plot points, such as Al Mualim, Rogue Assassins, Pierre Bellec, and Jack the Ripper. Cases that people may consider to be contradictions to the creed, but are neither explicitly cited nor presented as such in source material in a "Behind the Scenes"/"Trivia" section. Ezio causing that firestorm in Derinkuyu that killed untold innocents is a good example of this. I think it is a case that people find indisputably a contradiction to the tenet of not to kill innocents, but it's not cited as corruption or violation, and I think it is better for consistency to include it in the BtS/Trivia as an OOU contradiction instead. Readers can decide for themselves whether this was hypocrisy on Ezio's part or developers' oversight, while we avoid inserting our own interpretations (original research). Other cases that users keep debating, which are just disputable, should either not be included, or it can also be put down in the Trivia section as contradictions, maybe even in just a simple sentence. I think if they're debatable though, then it shows that they're not factual enough to be objectively called "corruption".

If you read the section, which I have written, I really fear that the wording is biased, especially in regards to Rogue. I felt pressured to extrapolate and explain how it's "corrupt", but I think that forces us to make too many assumptions.

The two of us alone can't decide on the matter. What are your thoughts? Or is this better moved to the forums? Should it be put to a vote? Sol Pacificus (Cyfiero) 17:57, October 30, 2016 (UTC)