User blog comment:Abelzorus Prime/The Dark Assassin/@comment-90.218.118.81-20140713210507/@comment-90.218.118.81-20140714002516

Lets get onto that list then!!!

Uberto: His family were threatened (rather ironic considering my last post, hehe). He was an innocent and should have been helped not killed. The Piazzi conspiracy had three motives: Selfishness, killing a tyrant (How Ironic, a Templar doing an Assassin's job) and for Templar goals. (So a bit mixed here) The barbargo lot: I can't recall to much on them; But from what I remember yes they were corrupt and selfish. But: Moro was an innocent. Made in to something he wasn't... so again should have been protected by the assassin. 1490 - 1499: Doesn't count; most believed they were doing right... nothing corrupt there (Apart from the odd one or two, who did it selfishly: the Farmer is one, if I remember right) 1500 - 1509: Well naturally... it was Cesare's guys. (Although Ercole wasn't and believed he acted in the best interests of his own minor order).

But notice how your entire list of corrupt Templars comes from the er... corrupt Grand masters?

Really? Hickey yes. Malfatto? Hmm... I can't recall him being inducted... source of his induction or a mention of it: otherwise he is as much of a Templar as Ezio is assassin before his induction?

Well, Haytham was in possession of Edward's Journal and well... Jenny told him. And I will point you to Haytham's last entry... The tradition of truth his father left for him... (I am paraphrasing: My copy is at the bottom of the Black Chest edition of IV). (About Jenny) Maybe... but subjective. He could just as easily have seen it as not being "bad" by killing her. She may have been a slave... But in her earlier years, as a concubine she would have lived relatively well... But I agree, there is other more morally correct methods.

Yeah, I have read the comics... I just don't feel it paints anyone in a bad light... The Assassins wanted what they felt is theirs.

Don't worry, I am not ignoring the point about my "prejudice" :). Infact I believe I am being the least prejudice. I am the one looking at from all sides, under the understanding of "bad" and "good" being subjective and not wholly agreeable. It is I, who keep making the point that none are morally "good" and that the means are morally "bad". Loose with morals? They both kill... murder is morally "bad"... therefore they are both bad. BOTH orders have used the SAME tactics to achieve their ends. therefore neither are "good". Well, naturally, the writers have the black and white lights on to much... unfortunately they have to appeal to more than just those like us who follow the more inner workings of the lore. But, As such we can also, surely, see both Orders are wrong in their means. I am not defending the Templars... merely shouting back at the Assassins "POT, KETTLE, BLACK".