User talk:Kaloneous/Archive 1

Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. ;D -- D. Cello 04:19, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Kaloneous, a lot of these pictures your uploading are fan art, and as such cannot be used on any articles. I don't know what you plan to do with them exactly, but they'll likely be deleted soon enough, mainly because you haven't got permission from the artists to actually upload them to the wiki... -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 12:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jasca Ducato, I am sorry for uploading them then as I wasn't aware that fan art is prohibited. In the future I will stick to upload only (relevant) screenshots and official materials etc. I am sorry to have added to your workload and thank you for your patience. Kaloneous 12:44, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * To add to the pictures problem, you've been uploading several duplicates of pics already on the wiki, plus some of them are wordmarked (have IGN or GameSpy on the picture). Please be aware that some of the pics you've uploaded are already on the wiki, without the wordmark. Also, try to look around more before you upload images, as the image you have might already be on the wiki. That is all. -- WarClown Frequency: 149.94 12:01, June 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I am sorry. I will be more careful in the future.Kaloneous 12:36, June 27, 2011 (UTC

I am taking an extended hiatus from adding any more images without first checking with admins/editors. My intentions were good but I do not want to become a nuisence as maintaining the wiki is hard enough without me adding to the admins/editors workload. Sorry admins and editors! Kaloneous 02:04, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * If that category adding of Florence was a badge hunt, your ass is mine. Just a friendly warning ^^ Happy editing! -- D. Cello 03:13, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, but I understand if you need to keep an eye on me in case it was or is. I am just really getting into the AC Universe and the AC wiki. It is sort of my daily 'fix' until I get my copy of The Secret Crusade and AC:R (only 139 days til it is out) :D Anyways, thanks for letting me know. Kaloneous 03:21, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, but I understand if you need to keep an eye on me in case it was or is. I am just really getting into the AC Universe and the AC wiki. It is sort of my daily 'fix' until I get my copy of The Secret Crusade and AC:R (only 139 days til it is out) :D Anyways, thanks for letting me know. Kaloneous 03:21, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Warning
Okay, I've noticed that you've been making very minor edits again and again to a single page and adding categories, you say you are not badge hunting but judging from your ranking here and how long you've been here, it's pretty obvious what you're doing around here. Just edit like all the other people around here, with a single edit of the whole page. If you continue to badge hunt, then you will come under suspicion from people in higher places within this wiki  The Reaper    03:11, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the warning (and I mean that sincerely) because I have a habit of continuing to do things until someone points it out to me or corrects me. I am not editing for the sake of earning badges but because I want my contribution to accurate and actually worthwhile to the wiki (often times it fails in this regard). Re-editing pages I have already edited is mostly because I have made a minor silly mistake because I was not fully paying attention in the first place or I feel it makes the sentence more fluid. Please do not take this response as whinging as I understand that this is an official warning and you are simply looking out for what is best for the wiki. In future if I make an error or notice an area that needs amendments or edits then I will leave a message on the talk page of that page or contact one of the admin/editors instead of making any edits to the wiki. Thank you for your patience and consideration. Kaloneous 04:01, July 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's better, try to click on preview before you publish the page too. You'll have less errors that way.  The Reaper    04:49, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Landmarks
I saw you added the Constantinople landmarks to the Revelations Locations and Gameplay categories. They do not belong there; they are landmarks, not locations nor gameplay. I put them in the Constantinople category only, and THAT category is in the Revelations Locations category. You're going to remove all of the landmark articles from those categories. -- Master Sima Yi 11:16, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. But before I remove anything I just want to get this straigth (for my own benefit so I do not make these mistakes again). Galata tower is a landmark and not a location. Also, my thoughts were that since it is in the gameplay demo and Ezio interacts with it during the destruction of the giant chain, that is was part of the gameplay category. I am sorry if this was wrong. Kaloneous 13:26, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Vlad the Impaler
You put on Vlad the Impaler's page that he is a Templar. Can you give me a source that says so? If not, it will be deleted. -- Master Sima Yi 11:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Master Sima Yi, I am sorry but I was not the one who put Vlad down as a Templar. The only edits that I made to the trivia section was the comparison to vampirism and I also added the historical context of his death in Bucharest. As far as I know, Vlad was not a Templar and whoever added that was speculating. I hope that helps. Kaloneous 17:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

hiya
where do you get those signs on your profile. (ex: this user is a supporter of the Auditore family) where do you get those?

Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 00:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

RE:
yeah, I have used Userboxes before, however, Those badges, This user is easy going, this user likes to sleep etc. etc. where do those come from, how do you get them, i have seen them on other wikis and I want to start here. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 01:49, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The links I sent you should direct you to the userbox gallery for those types of userboxes, simply click on the links and it will bring up the page. It is then a case of adding the tags to you page when you are editing it. I put mine in the infobox on my page because it was tidier that way Kaloneous 03:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the Jerusalem Article...
Since when was or is it a "geographical "fact""? I hope you take this into consideration. BTW removing what I removed from the article REDUCES political frictions, mentioning a state that isn't mentioned in Assassin's Creed is a political opinion, and I was only aiming to make this article FREE of political opinions. ––AltairTheFlyingOne 16:22, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I understand, however, leaving the opening sentence as "Jerusalem is a city." lessens the articles quality. A compromise may be to word it as "Jerusalem is a city 60 kilometres east of the mediterranean sea..." or something like that. I simple undid a previous edit that diminished the articles sentence structure and I did not add the location etc.. What is important is to maintain the article integrity (with regards to sentence structure). I am just a common user though so perhaps directing this towards one of the admins would resolve that issue to your satisfaction. I hope that helps. Kaloneous 16:30, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

So be it. AltairTheFlyingOne 16:39, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Arthur Grosser Article
I just wanted to quickly say thanks for adding the IMDB source on the Arthur Grosser article. I'm new to this Wikia and it was really good to see other users helping me out and us all working together to corroborate articles about the AC world. The article may only be a stub, but now it feels much more complete and I feel much better about it.

Thanks again for your help and great job editing,

Nostalgia AC 02:16, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

No problem and I hope you continue to add such informative articles. You details about Dr. Grosser were straight forward, well written and to the point. I also feel it is important to give the real world participants like Arthur Grosser credit because without them we would not have such a great series. Anyways when in doubt about how to edit articles my advice would be to look at a similar article(s) and try to copy its format. That's what I did when first I began and eventually I just got the hang of it and Awesome admins like Master Sima Yi, Jasca Ducato, Vatsa1708 and the other editors are alway there to give a helping hand when needed. Keep up the great work and welcome to the AC Wiki! :D Kaloneous 02:51, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Image sourcing
Kaloneous you recently uploaded a few concept art which you seem to have forgot to add the source for them. I suggest you add the required information (Information) to the images. If you need help with the template and licenses, you can find it here. Happy Editing. -- Vatsa Gentek  00:11, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that. I will get to fixing them right away. Kaloneous 00:15, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

AC: Brotherhood Novel and Game
In Assassin's Creed II Ezio is quite obviously an athiest/humanist, not a Christian. In the novel of AC: B he is a Christian. In the game AC: B it is never stated he is nonreligious, or a Christian. It is in fact, never explored at all.

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in the games he is nonreligious." It is never confirmed in the game AC: B that he is nonreligious, which makes that sentence untrue 'in the games' as in both II and Brotherhood. Now if this statement were modified:

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in AC II he is nonreligious."

That is irrelevant to an article about Brotherhood. So the only option is removal of the sentence.

Foreborn 00:55, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The article you are removing it from is about the Novel not the game AC:B. It is relevant in that it shows the difference between the two medium of the same story (book versus game). I agree that Ezio is an athiest/humanist and in my opinion the game is more canon than the books but if it is in the book then is is pertinent information. A solution may be to reword it or relocate it within the article but after that you will have to ask the admins if it should be removed as they have final say. Kaloneous 01:02, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Uhhhh...what? The novels are just that... Novels, and generally overwrite things changed from the games. But that's not the point. The point is that, ignoring even information from AC II, in the novel of Brotherhood he is clearly a Christian. That's well and dandy, and in the game version of Brotherhood however, it is not stated that he is either athiest/humanist or Christian.

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in the games he is nonreligious." Study this for a minute. In the games. That sentence refers to both Brotherhood and AC II, however...

That entire sentence is untrue because the game Brotherhood never once says that Ezio is nonreligious, AC II does.

So therefore it should read this way so as not misrepresent the Brotherhood game by claiming it establishes Ezio being nonreligious:

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in AC II he is nonreligious." Surely you can this point? Now that works, because in AC II which as you know takes place before Brotherhood, he is most definitely an athiest. The problem with simply changing it to read this way is that this is an article on Brotherhood and not one for AC II, or Ezio's page. It would probably be best to move this sentence to a trivia page under Ezio Auditore da Firenze.

Please sign you post particularly as you have the text broken up. I am not disputing your point. In fact, I mostly agree, however, if it is in the book and this article relates to the Brotherhood novel then it is relevant. It does not mean that Bowden was correct in terms of game canon but it still means that it was in the book. P.S I wouldn't care if it says he was Buddest, Christian or worshipped the Fonz but as it is in the book I think it is pertinent. Trust me, days or weeks from now someone will simple put that back in unless someone comes along and inputs it properly into the article (highlighting its accuracy or in this case inaccuracy to the actual game). Plus you don't see me adding it to the the article of the Brotherhood game because it is irrelevant to that (but only relevant to the novel article as it is in it). I am not trying to argue with you over this because as I have said I do agree with your overall point and if you feel that passionate about this then it may be best to direct your case to the more enlightened members of the wiki such as the staff (or simply make your point on the talk page of the article as it would be check by the staff). Kaloneous 03:04, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to sign my post, sorry about that. I'd rather settle this outside of court, so to speak.

I definitely see your point as well. I think you've been misunderstanding me; I realize that Ezio is a Christian, the novel is canon, I know that. The thing I have a problem with is put simply, the wording of the sentence.

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in the games he is nonreligious." The only issue I have is that sentence falsly claims that the Brotherhood game claims him to be non-religious in-game which is just not true. Do you see my main point clearly now? I don't know how to explain this any better. Look, how about if I change it to this:

"In the book, Ezio is a Christian while in the game it is never alluded to." That IS true. In the Brotherhood game his religion is NEVER brought up.

Foreborn 03:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry, I did misunderstand what you meant and I agree with what you suggested putting in its place. It truth I feel that this was a slip up from Bowden as Ezio's affiliations were always meant to be ambiguous in terms of religion and he was supposed to be shown as a humanist throughout the series. Feel free to change the sentence in the article as it was your catch and you deserve the credit. Also we need more editors/users such as you who can put forward valid points such as these so keep up the good work. Kaloneous 03:46, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, thank you kindly! I'd probably aim to become an Admin here if it weren't so damn tyrannical around here. I had intended to not edit anything here at all but... I just can't help some things, as a writer myself. Like Darim Ibn-L'Ahad. I changed the spelling of a word to be grammatically correct and some moron undid it, claiming I was wrong.

Quick quiz: Which is the correct spelling? 'Realisation or Realization'?

Foreborn 03:53, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Foreborn, it's both. Realisation is British spelling, realization is American spelling. UDITORE 04:10, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

You beat me there Udi XD but yeah Foreborn she's right any articles that say realisation or realization mean the same thing as Udi said so articulately above ^.

 Nostalgia 04:12, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Dammit I had a detailed response written and Internet Explorer crashed (Argh). Anyways, the Gentlman and Lady above me are correct. Kaloneous 04:16, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Say what? I knew the American spelling. Dang... It still looks funky spelled with an S but... Why doesn't Dictionary.com and other sources claim it to be legit? I know, American products but still, they usually list all types of spelling.

One question to you two: Why did you use this talk page instead of mine? Seems... unorthodox to reply here. To Kalo, why do you reply in your own talk page? I have an aquaintance on my Wikia that does that often, I thought it was just a simple mistake. Is it some kind of tradition or something?

Foreborn 04:26, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I never thought about it but I guess it is out of habit... (I thought I would answer here again though for old times sake :P) Anyways, I am relatively new to wikia so wiki protocol isn't my strong point. Kaloneous 04:32, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I know what you mean. I was pretty new back in Febuary. There are still quite a few things on Wikia I don't know how to do... So, onto a new subject. Ever played Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood or Call of Juarez?

Foreborn 04:54, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I can't say I have heard of the game before now but the only games I play on the xbox are in the Assassin's Creed Series mainly because I enjoy the story. It looks interesting though and I will have a look around the Call of Juarez wiki. Earlier I was going to mention that perhaps you should try for the apprentice initiative here. You seem to have a good grasp of editing and you are already an admin on another wiki so it shouldn't be a problem as long as you have the minimum edits. UDITORE is an appentice and a great one at that and she has a detailed blog on how to apply, link here. The staff here are generally very friendly and helpful and it is not tyrannical at all, D.Cello (El Capitano), Master Sima Yi, Vatsa, Rayne, Rome and Jasca, just to mention a few are very patient and understanding with new users which sometimes doesn't come across in short text based messages. Plus it has been a rather hectic week for admins/editors because with the release of new info from comic con there has be a large amount of speculative edits to pages so they have been the ones ensuring continuity and as an admin yourself you can appreciate that it isn't easy and can wear on anyones patience. Anyways, I am sorry for the rant but I didn't want your first impressions of the wiki to be a bad one and the more you participate here and on the IRC, the more you will hopefully see what I mean and I suspect in bringing over the skills you have already as an admin on your wiki will greatly benefit this wiki and in turn hopefully help you with your wiki. (oh and if I am slow responding it is because my connection keeps failing and this is my 3rd attempt to post) Kaloneous 05:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood and Call of Juarez are on Xbox 360 and PC (BiB is also on PS3, but I'd avoid that one because the original isn't on PS3).

Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood is the prequel to the original Call of Juarez, and is on my top ten video games I've played; it has an amazingly well written story and very fun gameplay, without a doubt the best western game ever made. So far it is without a doubt the best game in the Call of Juarez series. I originally played BiB (Bound in Blood) and then played CoJ (Call of Juarez), which in terms of story is the sequel, that's the best order to play them in I tell you, trust me.

Oh, and I'm not just an admin... I'm the tyrant-Ahem, Beurocrat Admin, I have recently overhauled the looks of Project McCall (That's the Wikia's name) and a large majority the pages on the website, assisted by my associate 11Morey and somewhat by Ausir and FrozenJese, the latter two have left the wikia as regulars. Essentially, I'm the the top dog since Ausir left back in... Early March? Maybe Febuary... And I'm very modest as you can see :P. Anyways, I strongly urge you to play Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood and then Call of Juarez. It'd be nice to have another regular on Project McCall, especially since Frozen left.

It's really D.Cello that gave off the tyranical and unprofessional feel, in all honesty. I suppose he may just do that for the laughs. And, I've been coming here since... Probably January, I just haven't edited much. On a final note, I'd recommend you don't look around Project McCall too much, as BiB is best played without knowing the story beforehand. If you're looking to investigate the games, just avoid reading the Episode sections and character bios. Whatever research you do, where ever you do it just don't watch that terrible Bound in Blood trailer... Nothing... like... the game. Complete misrepresentation.

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RE: Image policy question
I've answered your question on my talk page. The link's in my signature. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 15:41, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will also be checking my image contributions over the next few days (sorry for the time constraints) and deleting any duplicate images I have uploaded and I hope to have this task completed by Sunday at the latest. Kaloneous 06:54, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Dev Info
I have been searching for useful sources regarding developers of Prototype series. Any chance you can direct me to a few devs from Radical Entertainment? -- Vatsa Gentek  11:54, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing, I will look into it and get back to you in a few hours if that suits? Also is it anyone from the development team you are looking for (I mean writers, concept artist etc). Kaloneous 11:58, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Anyone and everyone involved with Radical entertainment and the Prototype series would be helpful. Take your time, i'm in no rush here. -- Vatsa Gentek  12:04, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem, I will start looking into it now and I'll let you know when I have a something of value. Kaloneous 12:07, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * I knew about the music composers but wow, you found more than I thought. Thanks dude. Anyways, upload/add any info to Prototype wiki directly when every you can. Click on Gentek in my sig to visit the wiki. -- Vatsa Gentek  16:48, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Alan Turing
Create a link for it then if your going to keep it, because right now it sends the person who clicks on it nowhereDop3man 80 20:09, July 28, 2011 (UTC)dop3man_80

If you feel so strongly about it then talk to the wiki staff but these links are created for a reason. That reason being that the page is planned for in the future and is in the process on being made etc. When you remove the link you have effectively broken the chain (or link) for that page to the the Turing page. I did what you are doing when I started and I was reprimanded for it so either leave a message with the admins, or on the talk page, putting forward your point but try and refrain from removing links until you know you are allowed to remove them. Kaloneous 20:15, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Please do more concept art of assassins creed revelations it gaves me imagination of how the game would look like since no gameplay has been released, well exacpt the E3 one. Do more art of beutiful, parkour areas in constantinople PLEASE ( if u can )

Hi Assassin 59, thank you for the encouragement but I have to point out that none of the concept art that I have uploaded is mine and they are created by the artists working for Ubisoft. I will be uploading more images in the next day or so but unfortunately there isn't much relating to Assassin's Creed: Revelations at the moment.But try and check out the artists (in the Development Team category of the wiki) websites as they constantly update their art for Assassin's Creed. Remeber to get active on the wiki forums and blogs as other users may have more information then I have. Also please remember to sign your posts when writing comments in the future. Kaloneous 22:30, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok
Can you stop removing the Younger Ezio bug?Is legit with proof and it was aproved before ok?Thanks AdrianoAuditore 16:28, July 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, your "bug" was removed from the page the second you put it on there. It's a mod, not a glitch, so stop trying to place it back on the article. -- Jasca Ducato Council Chamber Assassination record 16:37, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

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